Ben Franklin was wrong to say there are only two certainties in life.
Agreeing with you may not be the popular thing to do on this board, but you are right as rain about thisBen Franklin was wrong to say there are only two certainties in life.
These people acting like this only happens on MSU boards must live really sheltered lives.Y’all must be new to message boards.
No doubt. I read message boards for all my other teams occasionally and it’s the same thing with every one of them.These people acting like this only happens on MSU boards must live really sheltered lives.
Fan is short for fanatic. Some people get overly emotional about sports. It’s just part of it.Just because it happens elsewhere doesn't mean it should happen here.
That's some 17ed reasoning.
It's quite pathetic to see people that have college degrees, are successful in business, and successful in life go full child tantrum and show the world their emotional immaturity after a loss.
"Other fanbases do it too though!"
Its also pathetic that an educated adult would enter into almost every non-sports thread on this board with the same narrative, but that doesn’t stop you from doing it.Just because it happens elsewhere doesn't mean it should happen here.
That's some 17ed reasoning.
It's quite pathetic to see people that have college degrees, are successful in business, and successful in life go full child tantrum and show the world their emotional immaturity after a loss.
"Other fanbases do it too though!"
Ben Franklin wasn’t alive when MS State football started dubmass.Ben Franklin was wrong to say there are only two certainties in life.
Its also pathetic that an educated adult would enter into almost every non-sports thread on this board with the same narrative, but that doesn’t stop you from doing it.
Do you really think that just because you’ve shared with us that it shouldn’t happen here that it will immediately stop?
Ben Franklin was wrong to say there are only two certainties in life.
Just because it happens elsewhere doesn't mean it should happen here.
That's some 17ed reasoning.
It's quite pathetic to see people that have college degrees, are successful in business, and successful in life go full child tantrum and show the world their emotional immaturity after a loss.
"Other fanbases do it too though!"
5-2 --right where most sane people thought we would be going into Bama.
5-2 --right where most sane people thought we would be going into Bama.
You seem like the type that likes participant trophies and awards. Everyone is a winner and at least we tried.Just because it happens elsewhere doesn't mean it should happen here.
That's some 17ed reasoning.
It's quite pathetic to see people that have college degrees, are successful in business, and successful in life go full child tantrum and show the world their emotional immaturity after a loss.
"Other fanbases do it too though!"
Silly me, I thought the way to get better as a football program is to beat the teams you're expected to beat.If we want to overcome our obvious shortcomings as a football program, having a unified fanbase that doesn't constantly trash the program would be a solid first step. So glfr isn't wrong here.
Trash away all you want, but when competent people are in place, in really doesn't help anything. If you can't see that Leach is in the vein of Mullen rather than Croom/Moorhead, well.......I guess you're olblue.
Yes, silly you. You didn’t realize that in the 2022 offseason Tennessee fans just came together and started singing kumbaya? Their success has nothing to do with having the right coach, it was about them coming together as a fan base and agreeing that the university is flawless and they should not question such men of upmost integrity.Silly me, I thought the way to get better as a football program is to beat the teams you're expected to beat.
Don't blame the fans. They're the paying customers (at least the ones who are buying tickets and donating). There must be accountability. The fanbase will unify when there's something to unify around. We've seen that before.
Probably not in same vein as croom or Moorhead but yet to be proven here that he is as good as Mullen here. You expect 8-9 wins by year 4 if he is in the same vein. We will see. The facts are we looked like crap this weekend and looked just like we did against lsu second half and most of 2020. Looks like we took a step back against a beatable team. If you want the team to have success you don't want games like that. If you want to get to 8-9 win seasons you can't look like you lost all progress. It's not that we lost it's that the offense looked completely inept again and the defense had the ball shoved down their throat. Stop being a *****.If we want to overcome our obvious shortcomings as a football program, having a unified fanbase that doesn't constantly trash the program would be a solid first step. So glfr isn't wrong here.
Trash away all you want, but when competent people are in place, in really doesn't help anything. If you can't see that Leach is in the vein of Mullen rather than Croom/Moorhead, well.......I guess you're olblue.
Silly me, I thought the way to get better as a football program is to beat the teams you're expected to beat.
Don't blame the fans. They're the paying customers (at least the ones who are buying tickets and donating). There must be accountability. The fanbase will unify when there's something to unify around. We've seen that before.
How would having a "unified fanbase" have stopped us Saturday night from being dominated in every statistical category?If we want to overcome our obvious shortcomings as a football program, having a unified fanbase that doesn't constantly trash the program would be a solid first step. So glfr isn't wrong here.
Trash away all you want, but when competent people are in place, in really doesn't help anything. If you can't see that Leach is in the vein of Mullen rather than Croom/Moorhead, well.......I guess you're olblue.
It doesn't happen overnight. But over time, it shows recruits that we have a good football culture and ultimately we sign better players. I don't expect the mouth-breathers to understand the long game.How would having a "unified fanbase" have stopped us Saturday night from being dominated in every statistical category?
Showing that this coaching staff doesn't squander opportunities for wins, doesn't tolerate inconsistent effort, and demonstrates game after game and season after season improvement will do a whole lot more for showing recruits that we have a good football culture than anything the fans say or do.It doesn't happen overnight. But over time, it shows recruits that we have a good football culture and ultimately we sign better players. I don't expect the mouth-breathers to understand the long game.
Just because it happens elsewhere doesn't mean it should happen here.
That's some 17ed reasoning.
It's quite pathetic to see people that have college degrees, are successful in business, and successful in life go full child tantrum and show the world their emotional immaturity after a loss.
"Other fanbases do it too though!"
It doesn't happen overnight. But over time, it shows recruits that we have a good football culture and ultimately we sign better players. I don't expect the mouth-breathers to understand the long game.
General attitude of the fanbase matters. Not talking about this particular message board, Mr. Deep Thinker."Well it was between Auburn and MSU. But ultimately it came down to the fact that MSU message boards are super unified. So that's why I chose MSU."
See.. there's your problem, right there. Expecting to beat KY at KY this year. They actually have a decent team and will win their home games other than the last one against JawwJaaahh.Silly me, I thought the way to get better as a football program is to beat the teams you're expected to beat.
Don't blame the fans. They're the paying customers (at least the ones who are buying tickets and donating). There must be accountability. The fanbase will unify when there's something to unify around. We've seen that before.
Kentucky has a solid team and good coaching. And we should have won the game. All of those things can be true.See.. there's your problem, right there. Expecting to beat KY at KY this year. They actually have a decent team and will win their home games other than the last one against JawwJaaahh.
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And they should have beaten Ole Miss. They aren't a bad team.See.. there's your problem, right there. Expecting to beat KY at KY this year. They actually have a decent team and will win their home games other than the last one against JawwJaaahh.
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I have used that phrase more than a few times in the last couple years of coaching to explain to my kids why I dont give a 17 that some parents are complaining in the moment at a HS volleyball game.Fan is short for fanatic. Some people get overly emotional about sports. It’s just part of it.
I thought before the season and still think LSU was more winnable than KY. Stoops has a pretty good program going and given time Kelly will build a monster .And they should have beaten Ole Miss. They aren't a bad team.
I think people were blinded by the 2 game losing streak and losing to South Carolina (even without Levis). I still thought Kentucky was pretty one dimensional Saturday and that's what makes it disappointing. And again, we only had given up 13 points to start the 4th quarter. If you told me that before the game, sign me up. The most disappointing thing from the game was our offensive ineptitude. We scored 10 points.
You do realize the Tennessee coach came from the Mike Leach coaching tree?Yes, silly you. You didn’t realize that in the 2022 offseason Tennessee fans just came together and started singing kumbaya? Their success has nothing to do with having the right coach, it was about them coming together as a fan base and agreeing that the university is flawless and they should not question such men of upmost integrity.
Its also pathetic that an educated adult would enter into almost every non-sports thread on this board with the same narrative, but that doesn’t stop you from doing it.
Do you really think that just because you’ve shared with us that it shouldn’t happen here that it will immediately stop?
You seem like the type that likes participant trophies and awards. Everyone is a winner and at least we tried.
I think there are very few people saying leach should be fired. I think most people are sayin. Laying eggs in year three where should be competitive in every game and are favored to win shouldn't be accepted and is horseshit. But that's also leaches mo that he's gonna get out coached and his teams will be completely checked out a couple games a year if not more. His qb that he relies so much on completely shats the bed and his system requires the qb to be almost perfect every game. Rather than being a team offense.Why would I have a different narrative/thought depending on the OT thread if the overall topic is the same? That would mean my views are inconsistent...hardly something that anyone should strive for.
I do not think the childish outbursts demanding Leach be fired will stop just because I pointed out how its pathetic to see. Though I dont think behavior will change with the snap of a finger, I also dont think it should just be indefinitely accepted without any comment. Further, I have found that this basic level of thinking isnt limited to the coach of a football team. This dumbassedry flows out into life too, so pointing it out is worthwhile.
Maybe you should ask the adults who throw tantrums if they really think that just because they have shared their impulsive and shortsighted opinion with the group, do they think it will immediately happen.