Defense recruiting news…
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This goes directly to the Head Coach's feet. No matter how good of an offensive guru he is, if he cannot get quality defenders to commit and stay committed, he is setting himself and the program up for long-term failure. A recruit can't find a better place to get immediate playing time on defense than at Mississippi State! 11 new guys could start for our defense next year. To be de-committing now, speaks volumes!
Lebby is thinking ahead and banking on the NCAA to pass the rule being debated for next year. The “Make It Take It” rule is expected to pass after the season at the next rules committee meeting. Essentially if the offense scores a touchdown or a field goal, their same team gets to receive a kickoff and retain possession of the ball again.
Feels like we are way too far out from any of this mattering…
What do you expect after that miraculous moral victory this weekend!?!?!
Van Buren made himself some $ last Saturday. Will it be our NIL or someone else’s?
Did anyone not expect some decommits? Especially on defense. Would you want to play for Hutzler? My biggest complaint about Lebby so far is he just doesn’t seem to give a sh*t about defense. Starting with his DC hire.
It is October... the sky is already falling?
If you're already going crazy, finding a hobby other than recruiting would be best.
If you're already going crazy, finding a hobby other than recruiting would be best.
This may not even be on the coaches. if we just can’t muster the cash to match other schools and we are sitting around waiting for revenue sharing to get in the game what can the hustler do ?
If those schools wanted them, that's just the what it is. We are not going to win very many recruiting battles against Alabama or Southern Cal, nor have we ever.
Joe Lee Dunn’s defense allowed a lot of dummy’s to play in the SEC at the highest level, because it didn’t require them to think. That was one thing his niche defense brought for us. Other words we need to find a defense that allows for us to get the athletic dummys no one else wants to pay big money for. Again, when you run a vanilla common scheme, then expect to constantly be outbid by the bigger money schools.
Go hire Ogeron as the DC. He will make a big difference.
MSU really needs to stop promoting players that just committed and just mention ones that signed so we don't have announcements like this in the future..
Yes Lebby evaluated well enough that he got commitments from 2 guys early who flipped to 17ing Alabama and USC.
17 off.
This is way more important than your original post in this thread.
Its actually a testament to Lebby and Hutzler they evaluated well enough to get those guys early.
Or an indictment that they've wasted time, and money, on players we didn't have a chance at keeping.
Pig Prather would be a good example. Quit Bengals training camp. Couldn’t learn the concepts and plays of an NFL defense. Came back to play for the Tupelo Fire Ants for a little while. Joe Lee knew his limitations and didn’t ask him to think. Found a scheme and a way to get many athletic tough players on the field that wouldn’t have cognitively made it in a more complex scheme most other places. Other words in todays era, the Georgias and the Ohio States wouldn’t have come trying to buy half the players we had on defense back then even though we were good. Our scheme was too different and allowed us to employ some athletes others couldn’t or wouldn’t. Same idea with your Sleepy Robinsons and Chris Relfs ect. If you run different schemes that might just require two things, less NIL spent and this spread out, and less worry about big money schools swooping in.
This is my thought too, I don't want to even hear a name of a player until the week that they start. Then they will become a superstar and taken by another team at the end of the season or will suck and leave because they don't get playing time and the cycle starts all over again..........such is NCAA football today.
Well you can go shopping for a Bentley and get a salesman to talk to you but if your credit sucks it won't do you any good
Damned if they do or damned if they don't!
I feel the same when we get commitments. Nothing matters until signing day. And even then, signing a player is only good for one year.
Given that we have unrestricted free agency, I can't get too wrapped around the axle about these kinds of things. Honestly, headlines about personnel changes couldn't be less important now. All that matters is can your coach manage the landscape. That will show up in the W/L column. I can't imagine how sites and publications built on keeping up with recruiting news will survive, but perhaps I'm in the minority of seeing this as a reason for me to care even less about recruiting cycles.
I didn't say you get a trophy but acting like its something new for a commit to flip from a school like MSU to usc or alabama is idiotic. Happens to everyone every year.
Lebby should keep in State kids, fire Lebby**
Selmon hired Lebby, fire Selmon**
Other schools are better than us, fire Keenum**
People are stoopid
Selmon hired Lebby, fire Selmon**
Other schools are better than us, fire Keenum**
People are stoopid
I think that we better get ready to pony up some serious money for a known DC for the upcoming year, whenever that is decided to happen. The sooner the better. If no change happens, get ready for 3-4 wins at best for years and years to come.
That's typical, old school Big 12 mentality. Unfortunately, it doesn't fly in the SEC.
It’s not the DC. Pony up money for tacklers. Why pay big money for DC and then have **** to work with? I think they should pay less for a DC, go grab an out if the box thinker like Arnett was as DC or joe Lee was in his earlier days, and then spend the real money on the tacklers. If you got big time money do both, but we obviously don’t.
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