Defense recruiting news…

[paindonthurt17]

That's typical, old school Big 12 mentality. Unfortunately, it doesn't fly in the SEC.

Define old school?

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

I didn't say you get a trophy but acting like it's something new for a commit to flip from a school like MSU to usc or alabama is idiotic. Happens to everyone every year.

I'm sure these 2 guys will enjoy watching Alabama and USC play standing in the sidelines, so at least they will not have to buy a ticket like most of those schools fans. Meanwhile, our defensive talent is so thin, they both could probably start next Saturday for State. I bet the 3 star guy going to USC isn't getting any more NIL than he would here. But he shouldn't have to worry about getting injured there. Benchers don't get injured unless they fall off the bench.

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

You can tell a lot about a porterhouse by sticking your head up a bulls a$$

 

[patdog]

Just a little defense and we are sitting at 5-1 or 4-2. We damn sure would not be 1-5 right now with just a little defense.

We’re 5-1 in any world no matter how good our defense is. Maybe 3-3.

 

[Digging dog]

Remember when Croom out recruited and got Westley Carrol *********

 

[PBRME]

Remember when Croom out recruited and got Westley Carrol *********

I remeber he recruited Henig because he threw an interception, and made a td saving tackle.

 

[paindonthurt17]

I remeber he recruited Henig because he threw an interception, and made a td saving tackle.

Pretty sure Jackie recruited Henig as well. Croom was hired in December 2003 and signed Henig in February 2004.

 

[paindonthurt17]

We’re 5-1 in any world no matter how good our defense is. Maybe 3-3.

Pretty solid shot at 4-2
Pretty solid shot at 3-3
Maybe 2-4

 

[PBRME]

Pretty sure Jackie recruited Henig as well. Croom was hired in December 2003 and signed Henig in February 2004.

I’m old and my memory might be off, but it seems like he was a late addition. I remember when Rob told us about him. The recruiting pic came out and he looked 12.
I also didn’t subscribe to Rivals until we started the coaching search. So there could’ve been articles on him before that.

 

[Dogdazey]

It’s not the DC. Pony up money for tacklers. Why pay big money for DC and then have **** to work with? I think they should pay less for a DC, go grab an out if the box thinker like Arnett was as DC or joe Lee was in his earlier days, and then spend the real money on the tacklers. If you got big time money do both, but we obviously don’t.

We just tried this... we paid less and got a Bama LB assistant coach. I agree, we need tacklers there is no doubt. We also need someone to teach tackling, zone defense in the defensive backfield and hold players accountable when they don't do what they are supposed to. Also, it may just help in bringing in a few recruits on defense, so that we don't have to play our JUCO talent. In every successful program, they normally have a well known DC, usually not an unknown, although I'm sure there are occasions. As we've seen, Mississippi State isn't the occasion.

 

[paindonthurt17]

I’m old and my memory might be off, but it seems like he was a late addition. I remember when Rob told us about him. The recruiting pic came out and he looked 12.
I also didn’t subscribe to Rivals until we started the coaching search. So there could’ve been articles on him before that.

I could be wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time!

 

[kired]

Does anybody still follow recruiting like they did 15 years ago?

I can’t justify spending any time trying to keep up. Followed it pretty closely till around the time Mullen left

 

[PBRME]

Does anybody still follow recruiting like they did 15 years ago?

I can’t justify spending any time trying to keep up. Followed it pretty closely till around the time Mullen left

No. I’d already stepped back until Chris Jones. I got sucked back in during his recruitment. Completely checked out after he signed.

 

[bulldoghair]

We just tried this... we paid less and got a Bama LB assistant coach. I agree, we need tacklers there is no doubt. We also need someone to teach tackling, zone defense in the defensive backfield and hold players accountable when they don't do what they are supposed to. Also, it may just help in bringing in a few recruits on defense, so that we don't have to play our JUCO talent. In every successful program, they normally have a well known DC, usually not an unknown, although I'm sure there are occasions. As we've seen, Mississippi State isn't the occasion.

Paid less? We’re paying Hutzler one million dollars a year. That’s a lot of money. That’s the same salary as Batoon at Missouri, Haines Indiana, and Hampton Oregon.

 

[Dogdazey]

Paid less? We’re paying Hutzler one million dollars a year. That’s a lot of money. That’s the same salary as Batoon at Missouri, Haines Indiana, and Hampton Oregon.

ok, so we overpaid a DC to get underwhelming development of the talent or lack of that we have in house...