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<div class="left"> <h2>E-mails in support of Mike Leach</h2> <div class="date"> Posted on: December 30, 2009 12:50 am </div> <div class="edited"> Edited on: December 30, 2009 12:52 am </div> </div> <div class="right"> <div class="score"> Score: 125 </div> <div class="rateIt"> <div class="mcc_rate_label mcc_rate_label_dim"> Log-in to rate: </div> <div class="mcc_rate_html"> <span class="inline-rating" id="mcc_not_hovers_19238949" style="DISPLAY: none"></span> <ul class="star-rating small-star" id="mcc_not_rating_19238949"> [*]<span class="inline-rating" id="mcc_not_hovers_19238949" style="DISPLAY: none">Log-in to rate:</span> [*]<span class="inline-rating" id="mcc_not_hovers_19238949" style="DISPLAY: none"></span> [/list]<span class="inline-rating" id="mcc_hovers_19238949"></span> <ul class="star-rating small-star" id="mcc_rating_19238949"> [*]<span class="inline-rating" id="mcc_hovers_19238949"> Log-in to rate:</span> [*]<span class="inline-rating" id="mcc_hovers_19238949"></span> [/list] </div> </div> </div> <div class="body"> <div class="story-body">

These e-mails were forwarded to CBSSports.com on Tuesday. They include messages from strength coach Bennie Wylie, inside receivers coach Lincoln Riley, former assistant coach Dana Holgorsen (now at Houston) and former players Eric Morris, Graham Harrell and Rylan Reed ...

Two days prior to the incident in question, I disciplined Adam James along with several other recievers. His attitude was poor the entire time; even with constant plees for improvement. By the end of the practice, a few of the other recievers accepted their lack of performance in the previous practice and worked harder. Adam was not one of these individuals. He was last on all the excercises asked to do and talked and "danced" during the discipline. When told that this was unacceptable, he simply shrugged his shoulders. I continued to encourge him with no success.

Bennie Wylie
Head Strength and Conditioning Coach
Texas Tech University

To whom it may concern:

You can find out a lot about a person after playing three years of college football with them. Adam James was a teammate of mine from 2006-2009. Ever since the day he arrived on the Texas Tech campus you couldn't help but to feel a negative energy from him. He expected people to baby him and that he was going make it solely on the fact that his father was a very successful player. Coach Leach has never been a coach to just give something to someone because of who they are. He believes that everyone is equal and you have to earn respect from your coaches and teammates. Adam was never known as a hard worker. I can honestly agree with this because we played the same position and I witnessed his laziness on a daily bases. Adam seemed to have a negative attitude towards the football program the majority of the time. That negative energy is never good for a team and can cause some major problems on and off the field. During practices, Adam always tried to get by with doing the least he possibly could. Never do I once remember Adam to be excited or enthusiastic to be out there. It was almost like he was playing the game of football to please someone other than himself.

Sincerely,

Eric Morris
</p>

To Whom It May Concern:

Texas Tech University and the athletic department is filled with great people from the top down, starting with the chancellor all the way down to the student athletes involved in the programs. In the football program, Gerald Myers and the rest of the administration have put together an unbelievable staff that believe success only comes from hard work and doing things right. The staff expects the players and everyone involved to buy into their beliefs, but like anywhere not every player agrees with or buys into what the coaches and program stand for. At Texas Tech the majority of the players do everything the coaches ask of them and anything possible to improve the team. Adam James is one of the few players who has never bought into what Texas Tech football was built on and in my years there with him had a negative impact on the team because of his attitude and work ethic on and off the field. Coach Leach demands a lot out of every player in the program and pushed his players and coaches as hard as any coach I have ever been around, but he is fair to every player and would never make and decision or action that is not best for the Texas Tech football program.

Before Adam James ever entered the football locker room at Texas Tech I heard how spoiled and selfish he acted in a team atmosphere from many of my baseball friends. Adam was on the baseball team his true freshman year at Tech, before he ever joined the football team, and did not make it through the baseball season because of his selfish attitude. After a baseball game in which he felt like he did not get enough playing time, but the team still won twenty to one, he came into the locker room after the game and "pouted and threw a big fit" according another player on the baseball team. A few weeks later in the middle of the season, he just stopped showing up to practices or game and quit because he was not happy about how he was being treated. One of my roommates was a baseball player on the team and many of my friends were a part of the team that witnessed all of this. These baseball players told me he was "spoiled and selfish" before he ever came to the football team. After quitting baseball he came out for football and his selfish attitude was very evident, as was his laziness. During off-season workouts he often would be caught skipping lifts in the weight room or finding ways to cut corners/get out of conditioning exercises. When we had player organized seven on seven throwing in the summer, when he would show up he was much more interested in playing his own games on the side of the field or telling people that he wasn't going to run any routes because the coaches do not get him a "fair opportunity" anyway. During the season he was often "injured" (it usually seemed like a very minor injury that could keep him out of practice but never out of any other activity, including games) so he would not participate in some drills in practice. None of these acts were productive for our team, but the most detrimental part of Adam was his off field attitude and actions. In the locker room and away from the facility, Adam used any opportunity he had to tell other players how he was being treated unfairly, how the coaches did not give him a fair chance and how we did not have to do everything the coaches told us because they had no option but to play some of us. When I heard these kinds of things I usually tried to put an end to them but Adam pretty consistently talked bad about the coaches or down played the importance of working hard, when he was off the field. When he talked to young players or players that were usually on the scout he would explain how the coaches were not fair to certain players and only played favorites. When he talked to players that did get some playing time he would talk about how we didn't really have to do what the coaches asked of us because the coaches had to play us anyway. And it almost always tied back to how he was not getting a fair chance to play just because the coaches were unfair. The coaches were always more than fair to Adam I felt, because he came in the game during certain formations and situations last football season, but because of his work ethic and attitude, many of the players on last years team had a hard time trusting him or relying on him because he was not always practicing and we had seen his laziness during the off-season. Adam was a kid that seemed like he had been given everything he wanted his whole life and acted like if things did not go exactly how he wanted someone was treating him unfairly or someone needed to be blamed for his failures. He was a selfish player on and off the field that was counter-productive for our team and would be for any other team.

Mike Leach was not only my head coach, but he was my position coach all five of my years at Texas Tech. I spent more time with him than any other player during my five years and had meetings with him every day. He was very hard on me and every other player in program and he held very high expectations for every player. He would push us all every day during the season and during the off-season. He felt that hard work, dedication and doing things right was the only way we could be successful and compete in the Big XII conference. He worked harder and longer than anyone else in program and was committed to winning at all cost. He would never have been unfair to a player or not played the best players he had because he wanted to win more than anything else. Coach Leach also expected us to be tough but smart at the same time. He would not pressure a kid to play with a serious injury or play when he did not feel ready to play. Coach Leach is a man that cares about his player and puts his players, coaches and the well being of the Texas Tech football program above all else.

Coach Leach is a great coach at Texas Tech that emphasizes the importance of hard work and doing things the right way so that the football program has the best opportunity possible to be successful. He, along with the administration and the rest of his staff, have built a great football program at Texas Tech that is built on the virtues and principles that give any program an opportunity to be successful. Every single player may not buy into the program's beliefs, but Mike Leach has almost everyone on board with him and the Texas Tech football program on a successful track.</p>

Graham Harrell</p>

To whom it may concern:

As a player under coach Leach, I have experienced some of the most memorable moments of my life in which I am very grateful for. As I stated I am a former Red Raider that played for Mike Leach and got to know him well over my four years as a Red Raider. I admire the professionalism and dedication Mike had for the game, the university and his players. He always demanded the best from each of us and we became better players and people for it. Although he pushed his players and coaches to be the best, his decisions and actions were always consistent with maintaining the program's integrity and were in the best interest of his players. As a player, my commitment to the team was based on the trust I had developed in Coach Leach as a leader who would always put his players and his team in the best possible position for success. As a result of his guidance and coaching, in combination with my own hard work, I was able to overcome great adversity to become an All-American tackle.

A couple of bowl games ago in the Gator Bowl, I suffered a severe injury to my lower left leg in which took a lot of support from family, friends, fans, coach's, teammates and most importantly coach Leach to get me back. It was a long road to recovery that took careful attention from trainers during practices, and Leach was always checking to make sure that I was ok. During camp, oftentimes I had to practice one day and then take a day off because of soreness. Coach Leach was very understanding, always had my best interest in mind at all times, and I will always be appreciative of that.

Another incident that occurred was after my pro day in which I hurt my knee and my dream of playing in the NFL quickly came to a halt so I went home to rehab with two semesters left from graduating. I was able to get a job and start working, but quickly realized that to get the dream job in the real world that I always wanted, it would take getting my degree from Texas Tech. When I got home from work one day, I got a phone call from coach Leach asking, if they were able to get some paper work filled out, would I be willing to come back to school to finish my degree, and of course I said yes. I am proud to say that, as a result of coach Leach's influence, I will finish my degree from Texas Tech in May 2010. If that does not show how coach Leach cares for his players, then I do not know what does.
The allegations against coach Leach are not consistent with the standards and beliefs that he has for himself and the University of Texas Tech. He has always been fair and respectful to my teammates and I. I was very saddened to hear that someone could try to take away all that he has done for this university, players and fans. I hope that you take this into consideration, and I also would be willing to further discuss anything in detail in person or by phone.</p>

Sincerely,</p>

Rylan Reed

To Who it May Concern:

During the last two years of being the inside receivers coach, I have
had the chance to learn alot about Adam James. He came to Tech
because of one person: Coach Leach. Although we adamently doubted
his talent, we as coaches came to see that Adam actually had enough
talent to help us out. The problem, though, is that Adam is
unusually lazy and entitled. Many other players on this team,
specifically receivers, have a much larger role on this team with less
talent. I have always been worried about Adam's effect on my other
players because of his weak and conceited attitude. I recently found
out that Adam deliberately undermined my authority on many occasions.
This is particularly disturbing because Coach Leach hired me to make
our receivers the best group in the country, and Adam has damaged this
group far more than I even realized. He should be grateful forthe
opportunity that was given to him here that was not offered at any
other Division 1 football program. He has an unvelievable sense of
entitlement because of who his father is; one that hurts himself and
people around him. Adam is the kind of person thatakes excuses or
blames people for things that go wrong in his life.
Furthermore, I don't have children yet, but when I do I hope they are
coached by someone like Coach Leach. I have learned so many great
things from him and am incredibly lucky to have him in my life.

Lincoln Riley

I am writing this letter on behalf of Mike Leach in regards to the Adam James situation. I was the inside receiver coach at Texas Tech when we made the decision the sign Adam James in January of 2007. Adam had no offers to play NCAA D1 football during and after his Senior year. After a conversation between Coach Leach and Adams father Craig, Coach Leach acquired a brief highlight tape of Adam and made the decision to take him as a scholarship student athlete. I was opposed to doing so in belief he was not a D1 football player. Coach Leach overrode my opinion and Adam became a Red Raider. During the rest of my time at Texas Tech I was Adams position coach where I always remained critical of Adams ability to play at this level due to being lazy in not only the classroom but also in the off season and during practice. Coach Leach was the one who kept saying he believed Adam would eventually contribute. Adams teammates believed he was selfish and were constantly getting onto him for lack of effort as they sensed entitlement on his part due to his father being a very good football player. Adam eventually ended up playing a little after I left due to his body type being able to do some TE sets which consists of around 5-10 plays a game. Adam should be thankful for the opportunity to play at Texas Tech and for Mike Leach, who gave him the opportunity. In my opinion playing 5-10 plays a game in an outstanding offense is more than he would get at any other school in NCAA D1 football.

Dana Holgorsen
OC & QB's
University of Houston

Two practices before Adam James claimed he had a concussion, Coach Leach and I were forced to discipline him for poor effort from the previous practice and poor effort during the early drills of that day. This has been a common theme about Adam's work ethic and attitude during his entire career. Adam, along with two other receivers that were also unsatisfactory, was sent to run stadium steps with Bennie Wylie. After the practice, Bennie made it very clear to Coach Leach and I that Adam was a complete "jerk" while he was being punished. After talking with Adam after the practice, it was very clear to me that Adam did not agree with the punishment and believed that we were just mis-asessing his effort. He complained to me that we were not doing our jobs as coaches and that his effort was just fine, all of which is very typical of him to say. By comparison, the other receiver that we punished agreed that his effort wasn't his best and had a good attitude with Bennie and also in meeting with me after practice. It's just another example of Adam thinking that he knows more about coaching than people who have been coaching for their entire lives. I have no doubt that anger from this led to where we are today with this situation and is his way of trying to "get back" at us coaches

Lincoln Riley </p>

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These e-mails were forwarded to CBSSports.com on Tuesday. They include messages from strength coach Bennie Wylie, inside receivers coach Lincoln Riley, former assistant coach Dana Holgorsen (now at Houston) and former players Eric Morris, Graham Harrell and Rylan Reed ...

Two days prior to the incident in question, I disciplined Adam James along with several other recievers. His attitude was poor the entire time; even with constant plees for improvement. By the end of the practice, a few of the other recievers accepted their lack of performance in the previous practice and worked harder. Adam was not one of these individuals. He was last on all the excercises asked to do and talked and "danced" during the discipline. When told that this was unacceptable, he simply shrugged his shoulders. I continued to encourge him with no success.

Bennie Wylie
Head Strength and Conditioning Coach
Texas Tech University

To whom it may concern:

You can find out a lot about a person after playing three years of college football with them. Adam James was a teammate of mine from 2006-2009. Ever since the day he arrived on the Texas Tech campus you couldn't help but to feel a negative energy from him. He expected people to baby him and that he was going make it solely on the fact that his father was a very successful player. Coach Leach has never been a coach to just give something to someone because of who they are. He believes that everyone is equal and you have to earn respect from your coaches and teammates. Adam was never known as a hard worker. I can honestly agree with this because we played the same position and I witnessed his laziness on a daily bases. Adam seemed to have a negative attitude towards the football program the majority of the time. That negative energy is never good for a team and can cause some major problems on and off the field. During practices, Adam always tried to get by with doing the least he possibly could. Never do I once remember Adam to be excited or enthusiastic to be out there. It was almost like he was playing the game of football to please someone other than himself.

Sincerely,

Eric Morris
</p>

To Whom It May Concern:

Texas Tech University and the athletic department is filled with great people from the top down, starting with the chancellor all the way down to the student athletes involved in the programs. In the football program, Gerald Myers and the rest of the administration have put together an unbelievable staff that believe success only comes from hard work and doing things right. The staff expects the players and everyone involved to buy into their beliefs, but like anywhere not every player agrees with or buys into what the coaches and program stand for. At Texas Tech the majority of the players do everything the coaches ask of them and anything possible to improve the team. Adam James is one of the few players who has never bought into what Texas Tech football was built on and in my years there with him had a negative impact on the team because of his attitude and work ethic on and off the field. Coach Leach demands a lot out of every player in the program and pushed his players and coaches as hard as any coach I have ever been around, but he is fair to every player and would never make and decision or action that is not best for the Texas Tech football program.

Before Adam James ever entered the football locker room at Texas Tech I heard how spoiled and selfish he acted in a team atmosphere from many of my baseball friends. Adam was on the baseball team his true freshman year at Tech, before he ever joined the football team, and did not make it through the baseball season because of his selfish attitude. After a baseball game in which he felt like he did not get enough playing time, but the team still won twenty to one, he came into the locker room after the game and "pouted and threw a big fit" according another player on the baseball team. A few weeks later in the middle of the season, he just stopped showing up to practices or game and quit because he was not happy about how he was being treated. One of my roommates was a baseball player on the team and many of my friends were a part of the team that witnessed all of this. These baseball players told me he was "spoiled and selfish" before he ever came to the football team. After quitting baseball he came out for football and his selfish attitude was very evident, as was his laziness. During off-season workouts he often would be caught skipping lifts in the weight room or finding ways to cut corners/get out of conditioning exercises. When we had player organized seven on seven throwing in the summer, when he would show up he was much more interested in playing his own games on the side of the field or telling people that he wasn't going to run any routes because the coaches do not get him a "fair opportunity" anyway. During the season he was often "injured" (it usually seemed like a very minor injury that could keep him out of practice but never out of any other activity, including games) so he would not participate in some drills in practice. None of these acts were productive for our team, but the most detrimental part of Adam was his off field attitude and actions. In the locker room and away from the facility, Adam used any opportunity he had to tell other players how he was being treated unfairly, how the coaches did not give him a fair chance and how we did not have to do everything the coaches told us because they had no option but to play some of us. When I heard these kinds of things I usually tried to put an end to them but Adam pretty consistently talked bad about the coaches or down played the importance of working hard, when he was off the field. When he talked to young players or players that were usually on the scout he would explain how the coaches were not fair to certain players and only played favorites. When he talked to players that did get some playing time he would talk about how we didn't really have to do what the coaches asked of us because the coaches had to play us anyway. And it almost always tied back to how he was not getting a fair chance to play just because the coaches were unfair. The coaches were always more than fair to Adam I felt, because he came in the game during certain formations and situations last football season, but because of his work ethic and attitude, many of the players on last years team had a hard time trusting him or relying on him because he was not always practicing and we had seen his laziness during the off-season. Adam was a kid that seemed like he had been given everything he wanted his whole life and acted like if things did not go exactly how he wanted someone was treating him unfairly or someone needed to be blamed for his failures. He was a selfish player on and off the field that was counter-productive for our team and would be for any other team.

Mike Leach was not only my head coach, but he was my position coach all five of my years at Texas Tech. I spent more time with him than any other player during my five years and had meetings with him every day. He was very hard on me and every other player in program and he held very high expectations for every player. He would push us all every day during the season and during the off-season. He felt that hard work, dedication and doing things right was the only way we could be successful and compete in the Big XII conference. He worked harder and longer than anyone else in program and was committed to winning at all cost. He would never have been unfair to a player or not played the best players he had because he wanted to win more than anything else. Coach Leach also expected us to be tough but smart at the same time. He would not pressure a kid to play with a serious injury or play when he did not feel ready to play. Coach Leach is a man that cares about his player and puts his players, coaches and the well being of the Texas Tech football program above all else.

Coach Leach is a great coach at Texas Tech that emphasizes the importance of hard work and doing things the right way so that the football program has the best opportunity possible to be successful. He, along with the administration and the rest of his staff, have built a great football program at Texas Tech that is built on the virtues and principles that give any program an opportunity to be successful. Every single player may not buy into the program's beliefs, but Mike Leach has almost everyone on board with him and the Texas Tech football program on a successful track.</p>

Graham Harrell</p>

To whom it may concern:

As a player under coach Leach, I have experienced some of the most memorable moments of my life in which I am very grateful for. As I stated I am a former Red Raider that played for Mike Leach and got to know him well over my four years as a Red Raider. I admire the professionalism and dedication Mike had for the game, the university and his players. He always demanded the best from each of us and we became better players and people for it. Although he pushed his players and coaches to be the best, his decisions and actions were always consistent with maintaining the program's integrity and were in the best interest of his players. As a player, my commitment to the team was based on the trust I had developed in Coach Leach as a leader who would always put his players and his team in the best possible position for success. As a result of his guidance and coaching, in combination with my own hard work, I was able to overcome great adversity to become an All-American tackle.

A couple of bowl games ago in the Gator Bowl, I suffered a severe injury to my lower left leg in which took a lot of support from family, friends, fans, coach's, teammates and most importantly coach Leach to get me back. It was a long road to recovery that took careful attention from trainers during practices, and Leach was always checking to make sure that I was ok. During camp, oftentimes I had to practice one day and then take a day off because of soreness. Coach Leach was very understanding, always had my best interest in mind at all times, and I will always be appreciative of that.

Another incident that occurred was after my pro day in which I hurt my knee and my dream of playing in the NFL quickly came to a halt so I went home to rehab with two semesters left from graduating. I was able to get a job and start working, but quickly realized that to get the dream job in the real world that I always wanted, it would take getting my degree from Texas Tech. When I got home from work one day, I got a phone call from coach Leach asking, if they were able to get some paper work filled out, would I be willing to come back to school to finish my degree, and of course I said yes. I am proud to say that, as a result of coach Leach's influence, I will finish my degree from Texas Tech in May 2010. If that does not show how coach Leach cares for his players, then I do not know what does.
The allegations against coach Leach are not consistent with the standards and beliefs that he has for himself and the University of Texas Tech. He has always been fair and respectful to my teammates and I. I was very saddened to hear that someone could try to take away all that he has done for this university, players and fans. I hope that you take this into consideration, and I also would be willing to further discuss anything in detail in person or by phone.</p>

Sincerely,</p>

Rylan Reed

To Who it May Concern:

During the last two years of being the inside receivers coach, I have
had the chance to learn alot about Adam James. He came to Tech
because of one person: Coach Leach. Although we adamently doubted
his talent, we as coaches came to see that Adam actually had enough
talent to help us out. The problem, though, is that Adam is
unusually lazy and entitled. Many other players on this team,
specifically receivers, have a much larger role on this team with less
talent. I have always been worried about Adam's effect on my other
players because of his weak and conceited attitude. I recently found
out that Adam deliberately undermined my authority on many occasions.
This is particularly disturbing because Coach Leach hired me to make
our receivers the best group in the country, and Adam has damaged this
group far more than I even realized. He should be grateful forthe
opportunity that was given to him here that was not offered at any
other Division 1 football program. He has an unvelievable sense of
entitlement because of who his father is; one that hurts himself and
people around him. Adam is the kind of person thatakes excuses or
blames people for things that go wrong in his life.
Furthermore, I don't have children yet, but when I do I hope they are
coached by someone like Coach Leach. I have learned so many great
things from him and am incredibly lucky to have him in my life.

Lincoln Riley

I am writing this letter on behalf of Mike Leach in regards to the Adam James situation. I was the inside receiver coach at Texas Tech when we made the decision the sign Adam James in January of 2007. Adam had no offers to play NCAA D1 football during and after his Senior year. After a conversation between Coach Leach and Adams father Craig, Coach Leach acquired a brief highlight tape of Adam and made the decision to take him as a scholarship student athlete. I was opposed to doing so in belief he was not a D1 football player. Coach Leach overrode my opinion and Adam became a Red Raider. During the rest of my time at Texas Tech I was Adams position coach where I always remained critical of Adams ability to play at this level due to being lazy in not only the classroom but also in the off season and during practice. Coach Leach was the one who kept saying he believed Adam would eventually contribute. Adams teammates believed he was selfish and were constantly getting onto him for lack of effort as they sensed entitlement on his part due to his father being a very good football player. Adam eventually ended up playing a little after I left due to his body type being able to do some TE sets which consists of around 5-10 plays a game. Adam should be thankful for the opportunity to play at Texas Tech and for Mike Leach, who gave him the opportunity. In my opinion playing 5-10 plays a game in an outstanding offense is more than he would get at any other school in NCAA D1 football.

Dana Holgorsen
OC & QB's
University of Houston

Two practices before Adam James claimed he had a concussion, Coach Leach and I were forced to discipline him for poor effort from the previous practice and poor effort during the early drills of that day. This has been a common theme about Adam's work ethic and attitude during his entire career. Adam, along with two other receivers that were also unsatisfactory, was sent to run stadium steps with Bennie Wylie. After the practice, Bennie made it very clear to Coach Leach and I that Adam was a complete "jerk" while he was being punished. After talking with Adam after the practice, it was very clear to me that Adam did not agree with the punishment and believed that we were just mis-asessing his effort. He complained to me that we were not doing our jobs as coaches and that his effort was just fine, all of which is very typical of him to say. By comparison, the other receiver that we punished agreed that his effort wasn't his best and had a good attitude with Bennie and also in meeting with me after practice. It's just another example of Adam thinking that he knows more about coaching than people who have been coaching for their entire lives. I have no doubt that anger from this led to where we are today with this situation and is his way of trying to "get back" at us coaches

Lincoln Riley </p>

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Craig James' non-talented douche bag son got handed a scholarship he never deserved? Seriously? I'm absolutely shocked. And the douche behaves like he's entitled to anything he wants? Really?

Hey, Leach, you hand out schollies to undeserving offspring of famous multi-millionaire former athletes, you get what you deserve. This is where I fault Leach.
 

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Mangino had former players saying the exact opposite things about him. The funny thing is that, no matter what, Craig James can hang up his announcing mic. No coach is going to work with him now. He can put all of his energy into being a Helicopter Dad.
 

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Shmuley said:
Craig James' non-talented douche bag son got handed a scholarship he never deserved? Seriously? I'm absolutely shocked. And the douche behaves like he's entitled to anything he wants? Really?

Hey, Leach, you hand out schollies to undeserving offspring of famous multi-millionaire former athletes, you get what you deserve. This is where I fault Leach.

I agree to an extent, but you have to put yourself in their shoes.

If Mullen did this, how would you feel about your coach? If Nutt did it, how would I feel about it?

I'm sure at the time of his getting a scholarship we'd have been happy.

Dylan Farve and Cannon Smith both had great HS careers, but weren't necessarily worthy of SEC scholarships, yet our fans were willing to take a chance on them due to name recognition and what their names could do for our respective programs.</p>

I don't fault Leach for this. I fault the kid. He had an opportunity given to him that maybe he didn't deserve (he isn't the first), yet he failed to grasp it. Some do, some don't. James seems like a festering **** to me.
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According to Leach's TT profile, Orgeron did offer.

Not justifying it, but it's very common for coaches to offer children of NFL staffs and executives as favors.

We signed Stump Mitchell's kid out of Hargrave a couple of years ago. There is no doubt in my mind that Nutt was just doing a favor for the most part.
 

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but I think you tell the multi-millionaire's offspring that he gets a scholly the old fashioned way - earn it first. By handing this va-jay-jay a scholly, you just feed the beast.
 

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I'm not going to throw stones at him just yet. As a Dad of three kids (all under the age of 4) it's a balancing act to give your kids nice things without spoiling them. Lots of nice things if possible. Nice house, nice cars to ride around in, nice vacations, toys, etc. But to do this without spoiling them and keeping them humble is hard and if someone says it's not they're lying or they're not a parent.

That's one reason I respect Payton Manning so much. He had everything that craig James son has (if not more) but he's the exact oppostite of James. Why? I have to give credit to the Manning's as parents...they did something right.
 

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Same **** for Cannon Smith. Selected to play in Army AA game despite being an untalented midget.

Chris Collinsworth's son was selected and has committed to ND. I don't think her deserves either. Well maybe he and ND deserve each other.

Ray Lewis's son was selected for the 8th grade game.

There is a fraternity among players, coaches, and execs in football. They take care of one another.
 

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which probably wasn't a very smart thing for him to do. That doesn't excuse him totally though. If his son hadn't gotten away with this kind of **** all his life, he wouldn't be a whiney ***** today.
 

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it drives me crazy.
But that is very interesting, especially the one from Graham Harrell. I would have locked his *** in the closet too.
 

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came up and told me a coach locked him in a utility closet for punishment, I would definately question it, and I certianly would talk to the coaches and trainer, because that is something that is way out of left field.

If the coaches confirmed that they did it, and couldn't tell me a reasonable rationale for doing so, I would be pissed.

I have to wonder if Craig James talked to Leach before all of this hit the fan, and if he didn't, I wonder why he didn't.
 

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But sadly too many parents see their kids as though they can do no wrong and may not want to hear or dismiss the truth anyway.
 

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and they'd find something to sue you for. Because that's what self-important people with money and lawyers do.
 

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It seems like you're trying to say that Leach is out of line with this kind of action, which the reports say was repeated twice and made more punitive by the removal of furniture, the guards, etc. Yet you're trying to say it softly so as not to offend the mass of defenders Leach has on six pack.

I think Leach is an ******* and I don't think he'll coach above high school again. I hope he doesn't. Do you agree with me? If you do, just say so.

Cowherd said on The Herd this morning that Craig James and his position is irrelevant to the situation. I agree with that. People resent celebrities and question their motives, but Craig James is a father and a man just like me and you. Blood is some damned thick stuff, and that's as it should be.
 

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My youngest nephew is a freaking hellraiser...all he lacks are the pins in his head and the pasty face makeup. He's been all but kicked out of two schools and my sister likewise of two principal's offices, as in never allowed there again, because she can't comprehend that he's not a little sacred angel when he's away from her. He needs his little 9-yr old *** whipped, because Time-out is just so effective in changing the mind of a kid.
 

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drunkernhelldawg said:
I think Leach is an ******* and I don't think he'll coach above high school again. I hope he doesn't. Do you agree with me? If you do, just say so.

Cowherd said on The Herd this morning that Craig James and his position is irrelevant to the situation. I agree with that. People resent celebrities and question their motives, but Craig James is a father and a man just like me and you. Blood is some damned thick stuff, and that's as it should be.
I doubt he will get a good high profile job but I wouldn't be surprised to see him at a UTEP or something similar. Some schools are willing to take a chance and UTEP is a good example. They did with Mike Price.
 

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Todd4State said:
came up and told me a coach locked him in a utility closet for punishment, I would definately question it, and I certianly would talk to the coaches and trainer, because that is something that is way out of left field.

If the coaches confirmed that they did it, and couldn't tell me a reasonable rationale for doing so, I would be pissed.

I have to wonder if Craig James talked to Leach before all of this hit the fan, and if he didn't, I wonder why he didn't.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am a father of two and my attitude is "don't mess with my kids". It is easy to sit back and bash fathers who come to the aid of their children if you have never had any children. Trust me children change the way you look at life and the way you view others when they mess with your children. I said it on another thread and I will say it again here. If Leach did this he is an ******* plan and simple. I hope this is not true and it has been blown out of proportion for Leach sake but if true, he will be black balled for a while. Someone said that he will have not problem finding a job. Yeah you are probably correct but it will not be a top rated job. He is going to have to pay his dues for a while. Any big time program is going to think twice before hiring him. Some of the things they got to consider are the image of the school. How will this hurt recruiting? It will be a black mark on his record. (I guess there is always the Dallas Cowboys)</p>
 

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Craig James raised a spoiled little brat. Not because he gave him nice things, but because he didn't set limits for those nice things and make him understand to respect those nice things. I also doubt that he has much respect for other people that don't pander to his every want and need, in particular if they hold any authority over him.

With that said, Mike Leach is also an obivious d-bag by all accounts. Yeah, he probably desereved to get fired for doing something as stupid as locking someone in a damn closet, shed, room...whatever. That's just plain and simple stupidity, you just can't do **** like that....especially to a little spoiled bastard with a high profile daddy.

When it comes down to it, I don't think Leach was fired becasue of this though. I think it was all about money and personality conflict with the AD. Not to mention a little pay back for the Washington fiasco from last year. The one that got him this big contract extension. This was just an excuse.
 

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I'm just saying that if my son came up to me with something off the wall like that, I would investigate it. No matter who is right or wrong in this situation, there was obviously something up.

As a father, I would have to figure out who to straighten up- Leach or my son. It appears to me that it's the son- James kid.

Leach may very well be an *******, but most coaches are to some extent. They have to be.

And no, I don't agree that Leach won't coach above high school. Someone will be very willing to take a chance on a guy who is a bright offensive mind who has won at a BCS school and appears to be fired wrongly.

In fact, if we were looking for a coach right now, Leach would be at the top of my list. Of course, I'm happy that we have Mullen, though.
 

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I am not in anyones corner but to fire the guy, there is more to it. He will have trouble for a while finding a top job. Time will heal.</p>
 

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I'll take up for my son when it is needed. If he isn't doing the things he needs to do (work hard, hustle, do what the coaches say, etc) then I'm not going to come to his rescue. Parents coming to their kid's rescue no matter what are what spoil their kids and is the primary reason why so many kids have no sense of responsibility. If what we've heard about Adam Jones is true, then I think his father was wrong to step in like he did. It was understood when I was a kid that if I did something wrong I was going to have to pay the price for it.
 

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I am not in anyones corner but to fire the guy, there is more to it. He will have trouble for a while finding a top job. Time will heal.</p>
but most schools (including MSU) would jump at the opportunity to hire him if they were looking, unless something really damaging comes out.
 

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Dayuuuum. Think Craig takes his son to task for any of that? I'd like to see AJ pull that crap on Cohen.
 

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but this incident will not cause any irreparable harm to his reputation in the long run. I could certainly see him with a job as good as Texas Tech or better in the next 5 years. He shouldn't have even been fired for this. The 1 game suspension was probably right. Texas Tech should not have taken it any farther than that. Reacting to his lawsuit and rushing judgement to try to beat this $800k deadline was ****** on their part.