Didn't the Reds, or was it the Mets, that left Eric in the hospital and forgot about his travel plans when they left a visitor's ballpark?
Mrs. Schott took the blame I believe.
Did Ken Griffey Jr have the sweetest swing in baseball?
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Didn't the Reds, or was it the Mets, that left Eric in the hospital and forgot about his travel plans when they left a visitor's ballpark?
Mrs. Schott took the blame I believe.
Yeah, seems to be some deviation from what I believed to be the original intent of the thread ... best pure hitter, or best ever hitter, is different than sweetest swing. I'm not a fan of Will Clark's swing because he had that super closed stance, which made his swing look awkward, to me. Griffey and Olerud more closely resemble a "sweet" swing, though Griffey put a bit more oomph into his, so it didn't look quite as pure and natural as Olerud, who almost never even looked like he was trying ... it was just this upward stroke through the zone that looked effortless, and he could still go yard with it.
In recent times, can't think of any better but all-time...Ted Williams. Can't begin to explain how superior he was to everyone else who stood in a batter's box.
It was the Reds, after he injured his kidney in the World Series clinching game in Oakland in 1990. Guy was injury prone, mostly because he always went all out.
Lion Jim you’re spot on
. I too thought Rafael Palmerio had the best swing in baseball, not only when he played but also today. Palmerio had a fundamentally sound swing that got him 500+ HR’s and 3000+ RBI’s. Should be in the HOF!!Yes, Ken Griffey Jr. also had a nice swing.
Another notable is Dave Kingman. Just kidding!
Barry Bonds. He was the greatest player of all time. PERIOD.
Griffey Jr had a sweet swing and steroid free. Few could say that during that era.
Wrong. Aaron was the best player of all time and he never used steroids. Saw an article from a guy who does projections who said that Bonds would have hit 23 homers rather than 71 the year he first began saucing and 551 rather than 763 for his career. Don’t know if that is accurate but he sure as hell would have hit a lot less than the 8 homers he finished ahead of Aaron.
It's easy talk smack on Bonds, but his swing is poetry in motion. Have a look.
It's not sweet, or pretty, at all. It's violently efficient. It's the opposite of poetry in motion.
Aaron wasn't even the best hitter, let alone the best player. Could you cite that article, so we can all laugh at the author? Bonds never hit 71 HRs as a total ... he hit 73 in 2001. He hit 49 HR in 10 fewer games the year before, so I'd love to see the stats behind that assertion that he would have only hit 23, but for roids. In fact, he hadn't hit 23 HR or fewer in a season since 1989, when he was still a 24YO beanpole. He hit 19 that year (but hit more than 23 HR in each of the 2 years prior to that). In fact, the only years he hit 23 or fewer HRs were his 21YO rookie season (when he didn't play a full season in the bigs), his 24 YO season, and his 2005 40YO season, when he only appeared in 14 games.
Let me fix it for you: Barry Bonds. He was the greatest JERK of all time. PERIOD.
Wow, just wrong. BTW, hitting a baseball is considered the most violent act in sports, but since you're so smart I'm sure you already knew that.
How's the weather in Kentucky. Did you get hit by any tornadoes. Perhaps one dropped a house on your head?
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Bonds was ripped and the best player in baseball before steroids. As far as steroids, mlb liked and allowed it. It brought interest after the cancelled postseason and following season (almost all of it). It's not like Bonds wasn't facing roided up pitchers. If mlb had taken roids out of the game Bonds still would have been the best player in the game. Year after year, starting early in his career, the pitchers routinely voted him the most feared hitter in the game. Look at his intentional walk totals, they're absolutely ridiculous, and it's not like he didn't routinely have good hitters batting behind him.
They're not mutually exclusive. Btw, he was never bad with fans, it was the reporters who got to write about him that he had problems with. Face it, the best players in the game are often the most intense and competitive players too. Oftentimes some are simply better at public relations than others. Who here didn't think George Foreman was a major ******* growing up?
I can see we won't get along, as I tend to use logic and reason, and you flail around like a fish out of water trying to think. Bonds was a much better hitter than Olerud, but when you watch their respective swings, one is beautiful, and the other is just abrupt and violent ... and authored by someone who had shriveled up testicles by the end of his career. The "violence" of hitting is, largely, the result of the velocity of the incoming pitch ... pitching happens to be the most stressful thing you can do to a body in sport, and a pitched ball brings forth the majority of the "violence" incurred when a hitter hits a pitched ball (a 95 mph pitch will meet a 75 mph swing speed and result in a 109 mph exit velocity on perfect-perfect contact). The contact itself may or may not be the most violent act in sports, because of the speed of the respective objects, but the swing itself is not to be described as such.
Ah, what you don't know is that I have two friends that were club-house attendants and BOTH (along with a relative) all concur that Barry was and is a major JERK!
I mean, what other player do you know of whose college teammates wanted him kicked off their baseball team twice??
I guess I am a little slow as it's taken me several posts to figure out you're a narcissist and once diagnosed I try to stay away as best as possible. I'll run run this by the newly appointed McAndrew board certified psychologist.
Thanks Glov.
check out Dan Symborski’s article on Bonds projections on ESPN wise guy and get back to me. Besides being a fraud Bonds is a pompous a$$.
Kinsman had one of the all time sweetest swing-and-a-misses.
As you said he hit more than 50 only one time. Great hitter that was super quick through the zone. All you need to know is he was walked 2,558 times, most ever.
Szymborski's ZiPS projections are rather generic, and are good when examining the general trend, but not the specific guy, for things like hypothetical aging. Bonds was one of the greatest hitters of all time, at least ... and, yes, he was also a fraud and a pompous ***. But the only way PEDs are going to be responsible for a 50 HR swing in one season is if it meant the difference between an epic power hitter playing the full season, or not playing at all. It's not going to make a difference of 50 HRs for a player playing a full season.
Saw that, it was a joke. The pitchers were using as well. Barry never tested positive, he is clean in my book.
Forget about ZIPs. Do you think Bonds hit at least 8 more homers because of steroids? (For all the Bonds apologists who claim there is no proof he took steroids, he admitted he took the Cream and the Clear and then claimed he didn’t know what he was using and thought it was an analgesic balm) The guy claims Bonds was a better hitter than Aaron and he simply wasn’t. Bonds lifetime BA is .298 and Aaron’s is .305. Aaron played 23 years and Bonds played 22. Aaron had almost 800 more career hits than Bonds (he also had more than 3000 hits after subtracting his homers). Someone mentioned that Bonds had the most walks ever. Call me old fashioned but I want my power hitter to drive in runs, not walk which is why Aaron is the lifetime leaders in RBI (about 300 more than Pumpkinhead). I also chuckle when people claim Bonds was a 5 tool player and think about Sid Bream who you could time with a sun dial beating Bonds weak throw to the plate in the playoffs. I saw Aaron throw a runner out at the plate from the cut out in right field at Connie Mack stadium tagging up from third (admittedly not Maury Wills) on one hop and the throw was never more than 15’ above the ground.
Similar experience but with Willie McCovey at Three Rivers Stadium. We were sitting in box seats halfway up the first base line. McCovey hit a line drive HR to right-center field that went out so fast had you blinked you missed it. That said, my votes go to Ted Williams and Will Clark in a tie.
It is all about the numbers in baseball, except when it comes to bonds. He is the home run king. The GOAT.
No. Williams had a slight uppercut and told everyone who listened that it was the best way to swing. The way he argued made sense.
Personally speaking I can’t stand it. If Alonso straightened his swing just a bit he would be a 50 HR a year player.
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I didn't have the patience to elaborate on what Williams said, and it was exactly this.
Take this clowns vote away. Bet he cant 3ven throw a baseball 60 feet
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It’s a shame when something like this happens. Not for Bonds and Sosa and Clemens, but for guys whose names might not get discussed because they fall off the ballot by not getting the min vote to be further considered. Of course, you can say that a guy who garners less than 5% doesn’t deserve consideration, but at least let the process work as opposed to counting a zero ballot against them. A couple of Phillies I’d like to at least stay on the ballot to be discussed moving forward.
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