Lived in Starkville for the 2022/2023 school year while he coached at Buffalo.
Did yall know Greg Knox’s family…
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I’d like to keep him on the new coaching staff. Good coach, good guy, and we've got a go to experienced interim if we have to fire the next coach.
If he somehow pulls off an Egg Bowl win he should at least be in the conversation as permanent hc.
No. He should be given a very nice performance bonus and an opportunity to interview with the new coach.
I like Knox, but c'mon now. This is the backwards thinking we've done from the 50's through the mid 2000's. This is some Larry Templeton type decision making.
I hope he stays on staff with the new coach. He’s clearly a great guy and he and his family love Starkville.
You have to ask this after what we just went thru?
He's a good guy but never been a coordinator or a HC at a lower school.
He was interviewed during the second half of yesterday’s game and said we need to run the ball more.
More 2 yard runs.
He is doing a good job in a tight spot. Just be prepared to run the ball Thursday night to try to shorten the game and keep Kiffin from getting the score over 50.
More 2 yard runs.
He is doing a good job in a tight spot. Just be prepared to run the ball Thursday night to try to shorten the game and keep Kiffin from getting the score over 50.
That’s a valid point. We’ve also hired the hottest coordinator in the country and it be a complete failure. We recently hired a coordinator we thought was looking to leave us for bigger opportunities. I’m not advocating for Knox, but to disqualify him just because he’s not an in vogue coordinator isn’t a good reason to me.
Smart family, winter in Starkville > winter in Buffalo
He was listed as "Senior Offensive Analyst" this season. What exactly about this year's offense did he analyze and what conclusion did he come to? I think that would be a legitimate question to ask if he's interviewed for being retained.
I think he’s being disqualified because he’s never had the minimum level of responsibility that makes him qualified to even possibly be a successful HC.
Here’s the list of long term success head coaching hires who were never at least a coordinator before taking the job:
/end list
He doesn’t call plays. We would constantly be reliant upon the coordinators who can bolt at anytime. The last two successful coaches at State either called plays or ran the offense.
Hiring Greg Knox as permanent head coach if he beats Ole Miss would be the most Mississippi State thing ever, seeing as a good number of our fans care only about beating OM. He’s a career running backs coach and wasn’t even an on field assistant this year.
Sherrill, Mullen, and Leach since I’ve been around….we hit on every other one it seems.
Leach is arguable because of the untimely death, but I don’t think anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size questions whether or not he would have kept us in that 6-8 win range every year had that not happened.
And FYI, my comment wasn’t only about MSU. Literally no one in the SEC / P5 should ever hire someone who has never at least been a coordinator at the college level. The track record of those hires is pretty much 0% success rate.
The only exception being Orgeron’s NFL Pro Bowl team that won the natty while he watched Joe Brady do all the heavy lifting….that’s all that kept his tenure at LSU from being a total disaster. But he still wound up getting the boot.
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He’s not a candidate for HC but he should be in the MSU hall of fame.
Good coach, good guy, and we've got a go to experienced interim
FIFY.
I’m so glad the posters on this site have nothing to do with the hiring process. One glance at this board at any point since we fired ZA and it’s no wonder we spent 40 years wandering in the wilderness.
Actually, giving the job to an interim coach, who has no coordinator or head coaching experience but wins the Egg Bowl to finish 6-6, would be the most Ole Miss thing ever.
See Luke, Matt.
eta: gotta keep Coach Knox on staff though.
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Yes, in an odd circumstance he did have HC experience with no coordinator experience before he got his second chance as a HC….and he still never even picked up a DC gig in that 9-10 year period or whatever it was. And that first HC stint obviously failed miserably….with the second one failing less miserably but still failing nonetheless.
Orgeron is a poster child for why the “CEO hire” is a joke of a concept in college football, and it never works out over the long haul. He got two chances at it and failed both times.
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Would we say he failed at LSU? He won a National Championship.
I appreciate him stepping up again and trying to get these guys focused and hyped up, but this coaching staff has not done a good job this year and I'm not for keeping any of them. It's been a huge failure both with game preparation and focus as well as recruiting.
Great post. I can tell you’re very knowledgeable in how college football coaching staffs work
Tell us then oh wise one, what exactly does this position entail? I Googled it and the ONLY offensive analyst that comes up is Kliff Kingsbury. Here is something I read about him, "Kingsbury cannot actively coach or instruct players, but will help the Trojans game-plan, lend another set of eyes to the quarterbacks and be a resource for players and staff, according to Riley, who added that he was hoping the NCAA would have passed a rule it has been discussing in recent months about allowing more coaches to work with players on the field, following the NFL model.
So, again, tell us old wise one since Knox and Kingsbury seem to be the only ones anywhere exactly what did Knox do for us this season, what did he discover, and what did he do to correct the issues?
From what I have seen and heard Knox does not enjoy being the head man, he only took on the interim duties here and at Florida because he knew it was a short term gig. He enjoys position coaching and recruiting more than being fully in charge. With that said he is an excellent position coach and recruiter and should be given a job with the new coach.
He won a national championship with a Children’s Hospital funded All-Star team that was up there with 2001 Miami as being possibly the greatest college football team of all time. There wasn’t much of an opportunity for him to 17 that up.
He was still a failure over the mid to long term, which is what this discussion is about. Just like Larry Coker was, and Gene Chizik if you want to keep going down that path of bad head coaches who fell asś-backwards into NC’s. And since MSU is never going to have a collection of talent anywhere close to those Miami or LSU teams, the CEO route makes even less sense for us.
You're the one claiming to be so "knowledgeable in how college football coaching staffs work" (in your original post), tell us his role since there seems to only be one other one in the country........
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