Do college athlete's have to qualify (SAT) to attend school any longer?
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Although the SAT is no longer a requirement for most schools, if a student does not take it, then they are limiting themselves to having one less criteria for schools that are test optional, but still take the testing under consideration.
So officially no, but it still matters.
So officially no, but it still matters.
Is that because the SAT is considered unfair or biased? Why is the SAT no longer the standard? Are there other standardized criteria used which are not subject to personal bias by the decision maker?
Sorry, but I would not have enough background to answer your questions with any degree of confidence.
I've understood that the ACT is being used more and more. Think the SAT got in trouble for "inflated" scores.
Vaguely remember something about Math and English being unfair to minorities but not sure. Asians don't seem to have a problem though. Wouldn't that be true of ACT also?
Don't know. Regarding the math and english on the SAT, IIRC it had more to do with the construct of the word problems and reading material. And I think it has less to do with minority status than class level. I think is issue was that the subject matter of the questions were unfamiliar to those in the lowest class levels.
For example, when I was in law school we had a torts question in class we were discussing and when I (a country boy) mentioned cow catchers on a train, most of the class had absolutely no clue what I was talking about....many were from large cities.
Is the formulation of word problems and reading that much different on ACT, so it is more acceptable? Never took the ACT, so I don't know.
Never took the ACT so I don't know. Quite a few of the kids that were friends of my daughters took both. Many of those were applying to the Honor's College and schools outside the south, like Ivy League schools, Stanford, Michigan, etc. Not sure what the admission requirements at those schools are though.
When you continue to lower standards in the name of “affirmative action” you tend to get the downward spiral you see in the nation. And if anyone is offended I said this, check your feelings at your phone, I tend not to care about hurt feelings reports.
Agreed. Equal opportunity is one thing, quality of results is another.
Probably explains my score. I only took it once. Never got around to LSAT.
They must have never watched cartoons or movies. The other possibility is they're stupid. I knew what a cow catcher was by the time I was 3 and I was never a country boy.
If they are using grades and nobody fails anymore (to prevent some from being offended), does everyone now get accepted.
1. I don't believe that is a true statement
2. I don't believe that is a true statement
3. With a minimum of effort anyone can perform a simple search to see that there are different acceptance rates at different schools, I have yet to ever see an acceptance rate at any university at 100%
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I understand grades are not the only criteria. Many are promoted with failing grades. But why the move from SAT to ACT as the standard. I'm still trying to understand since they are similar in nature.
From the OP, why do we not see athletes getting admission rejections for academics anymore? Is it because recruiters know who they are and back off?
This may answer some of your questions regarding the SAT and ACT....
SAT vs ACT: Which Test is Right for You? | The Princeton Review
Choosing SAT or ACT? Colleges don’t prefer one test over the other. Learn the key differences between the SAT vs ACT and find the right test for you.
www.princetonreview.com
Who are you referring to as many ?
If you are keeping with the OP's question of student athletes, the practice of passing of football players with failing grades is hardly a new phenomen.
The answers to your several questions on this thread can be easily researched online.
Here is another article regarding the preference of the SAT or ACT. The key difference has to do with "Superscoring" about half way down the article....
What Do Ivy League Schools Think of the ACT?
Do Ivy League schools prefer the SAT over the ACT? Is it easier to get into Harvard with an ACT or SAT score? Find out here.
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blog.prepscholar.com
My future college athlete has been told he needs either the SAT or ACT to qualify.
Many schools are going away from any standardized test for acceptance. There is a belief that overall success should be taken into account, and someone’s future should not be riding on one test on one day. That said, while not used in admission in some places, these tests are still use for academic scholarship purposes.
Just another way to allow those in college that have inferior test grades. They know affirmative action is all but on the chopping blocks, so they have came up with ingenious ways to get some kids in school that probably need a few years of community college to be ready. But I digress, these kids take spots away from other kids that score higher on all other tests…..and the taxpayer assumes the cost.
Way to insult anyone who has phenomenal grades but just may not test well. I was in the top 10 of my class, but didn't test "well". Should I have been made to go to community college?
When I was in high school I saw a lot of teachers pet's consistently make phenomenal grades. When the time came for SAT they didn't "test well". I am not, repeat not, saying that was your situation.
Edit - I had a blonde moment.
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I'm sorry Batgirl, can you please explain to me how I insulted anyone with my reply to your reply to somebody else's reply?
Same as my youngest daughter. She hated standardized testing and didn't do well on them but had great grades. She is on the Dean's List at Miami (OH) University.
That's the way its done now - self proclaim to be what ever you want!
Hard to deny there is a "trophy for everyone" and "nobody fails" mentality under the guise of not hurting anyone's feelings permeating in our society. This is not leveling the playing field but removing competition and the motivation to be the best you can be. This country was built on a "hard work pays off" mindset which is the opposite of this everyone wins/handout mentality. Everyone is not the same - but lowering our standards is moving us in that direction and brings everyone down.
And just think, if she worked a little harder, she could have ended up at THE U BABY!!!!
I’m sure for the sake of numbers there are some cases that “don’t test well”. And I’m also proof positive that numbers don’t lie. Are there outliers?? Sure, but it’s usually the exception and not the rule. So I’m sorry you sucked at the SAT but colleges later figured you out and were amazed to find out you were actually brilliant…kudos. But 9 out of 10 agree that you must have some sort of measuring stick to gauge who can and who cannot succeed in higher learning. Facts .
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