Mine has been graduated a couple of years but he got essentially a full ride in engineering at MSU with a 32. The key was stacking scholarships. Throw in the money he made on co-ops and he made money while in school...score above a 30 on the ACT and have a high GPA?
The way I'm reading it they aren't comparable.. am I wrong?
..score above a 30 on the ACT and have a high GPA?
The way I'm reading it they aren't comparable.. am I wrong?
In state. It was enough that it covered pretty much everything.Bill, when you say full ride, are you talking about tuition and books + housing and meals or are you talking just tuition and books? Was he an in state student or an out of state student?
Biggest difference that my kids saw was the way that housing was handled. Ole Miss has no land and not enough dorms, so if you get an award for housing, they will let you use it for off campus housing after freshman year. State has plenty of land and relatively speaking plenty of dorms, and still building. If you move off campus, you lose the housing part of the reward. Really sucks. Bama handles it the same way as Ole Miss. If I were a kid with great academics, no ties to MSU and wanted to maximize the usefulness of my housing scholarships, I would not go to MSU.
My daughter scored a 30 on her ACT in 2016, and Mississippi College offered her way more than State did. She didn't apply to OM. State was very indifferent about her recruitment.
Exactly. Be sure and check the Mississippi programs (if you are in state) for high academic kids, I forget what they are called. Those made up the difference. Don't just trust your school's guidance people. It was TOTALLY incompetent at my son's school. We did EVERYTHING on our own.Be careful about looking at straight scholarship money when comparing public schools to private and in-state to out of state. Look at the balances. MSU offer money may seem lower, but the out-of-pocket may be lower. LSU offered my daughter what looked like big money (rolled in out of state fee waiver) but the bottom line was still better to go to MSU...by alot. Be sure you are looking at the bottom line and not the scholly money to see what you'll end up paying. For instance, if MC's tuition is twice that of MSU's then the MC scholly amount may be bigger but you might be paying more in the long run.
My daughter made a 33 on the ACT and is a freshman at State now, living in an honors college dorm.
If she/we hadn't chased down several non-MSU community service-style scholarships, we'd have been out of pocket some for her first semester.
As it is, some scholarships were only for first freshman semester and rolled off at Christmas - we had to pay a number with a comma in it for the current semester.
Mississippi College and The W both offered full rides, but she opted for the MSU experience.
The number of students making 30 and above has risen drastically in the last 6 years
If they make good grades they will be fine….I’m following this thread Bc I’ve got a high scoring son who is a Jr in high school. So far it appears that with his scores, USM is a free ride for the freshman year. Not sure if the housing drops off after that, or is contingent on grades, or what. Mississippi’s website appears to automatically offer more money than State’s as well, based only on automatic academic scholarships.
Or others. I don't hear it period except here. Now I have seen kids get lots of money from Milsaps or MC, more than what MSU offered, but they still wound up paying nearly as much if not more than they would have at MSU without scholarships. Our experience was not what is being described here, far from it.You might see this stuff here because it's accurate. You might not hear it from Ole Miss fans you know because they didn't compare offers, it didn't matter or maybe they didn't have kids smart enough to get free rides in college.
Don't stop at websites. You need to talk to people on campus. We got a LOT of money that wasn't on the website.I’m following this thread Bc I’ve got a high scoring son who is a Jr in high school. So far it appears that with his scores, USM is a free ride for the freshman year. Not sure if the housing drops off after that, or is contingent on grades, or what. Mississippi’s website appears to automatically offer more money than State’s as well, based only on automatic academic scholarships.
The number of students making 30 and above has risen drastically in the last 6 years
It's wild how much higher ACT scores have gotten. A 33 would pretty much guarantee you full freight at MSU when I was there. I think you'd pretty much have everything but living expenses covered if you just qualified for eminent scholars, which at the time only required a 29. I wonder if higher level students are generally better prepared now, or just better at taking the ACT. I assume they are good enough at standardizing the tests that the ACT hasn't gotten easier.
I wonder if higher level students are generally better prepared now, or just better at taking the ACT. I assume they are good enough at standardizing the tests that the ACT hasn't gotten easier.
It sure seems like scores have gone up. When I looked at US News rankings a handful of months ago after the latest rankings were released, I was shocked to see how high the median scores are for various colleges.
We got a lot of wicked smart kids coming thru our school systems...or the tests are more worthless than ever before.
When I started in 2008, I had a 35 ACT and was paid to go to MSU once everything was doled out each semester. The housing scholarship was for on campus only, so I lived in the dorms the whole time since it was free. I had a free meal plan, and got a book/moving stipend that I never spent all of and pocketed. I was an out of state student, but they were waiving out of state very easily back then. Other than my grades/test scores, I was a multigenerational alumni product, so I assume it would have been waived anyways. I did get some money from Bagley's pool of scholarship on top of what the school was giving, so that took it from "everything is basically paid for" to "I get a few hundred dollars a semester to buy beer with."
Looking at the scholarship website now, I think I would end up with pretty much the same thing now +/- a little depending on the Bagley specific money. It seems like the money has shifted up the ladder a bit as MSU has expanded, though. Back in the mid/late 2000's, the school was aggressively trying to expand, so there was money being thrown at anyone with a decent test score.
We did find a good loop hole around housing scholarships though- I had a friend that had one as well, but his parents told him he could live off campus his Jr/Sr year. I had him register as my roommate in the double deluxe rooms in Griffis/Ruby, and he only showed up to do checkin and checkout each semester. We told the RA what was going on, and I had the biggest room possible on campus all by myself. It was awesome. I know a few other folks had similar arrangements by the time I graduated.
Be careful about looking at straight scholarship money when comparing public schools to private and in-state to out of state. Look at the balances. MSU offer money may seem lower, but the out-of-pocket may be lower. LSU offered my daughter what looked like big money (rolled in out of state fee waiver) but the bottom line was still better to go to MSU...by alot. Be sure you are looking at the bottom line and not the scholly money to see what you'll end up paying. For instance, if MC's tuition is twice that of MSU's then the MC scholly amount may be bigger but you might be paying more in the long run.
She's intelligent which is why she said yes to me and let me give her a few kids. Wise woman indeed who understands the importance of good genes.^^Obviously takes after her mother.*