Do you forsee Conference Championship games going away?

HuntDawg

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I seriously do not think that the SEC & Big 10 care whether the ACC & Big 12 are included in the CFP? They probably don't want to exclude Notre Dame, but the SEC now has all the brand-names from the old Big 12 and the Big 10 has all of them from the Pac-12.
again... not arguing that. But they certainly havent come out and said they'll abandon anyone or anything.... and again they need teams to play and teams to compete for championships against. If they wanted it to be a big10/sec playoff they could have already created this. They WILLINGLY joined into this agreement with the other 2 major conferences. They WILLINGLY joined an agreement that made all 4 equal partners. They obviously felt like that partnership was needed and best thing for their schools. They arent going to jump ship anytime in the near future.. and have said nothing that even implies this
 

Perd Hapley

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We’re a lot closer to a 10-game or 11-game conference schedule - across the board -than we are to any conference championship games being eliminated. That’s what the networks actually want. More compelling games and less P4 vs. G5/FCS laughing stock games that nobody cares about.

SEC is taylor made right now for a 11-game schedule, and returning to divisions. Two 8-team divisions. Play all 7 teams in your division every year. Rotate all the opponents in the opposite division for the other 4 games. Rotate all 4 opponents every year so that you play everyone in the SEC every 2 year period. Or rotate 2 off per year so you play everyone every 4 years. Whatever works.

West Division:

Texas A&M
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
LSU
Missouri
Ole Miss
Mississippi State

East Division:

Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
Vandy
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
Tennessee

Every single traditional rivalry is preserved.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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They need to get the player compensation in line first. This was always my problem with the expansions but not paying players. They force them to play more and more games, significantly increase their chance for injury, for no additional funds. All the extra games should have a winners and losers share for the game that is split amongst the players like any professional league does for playoffs.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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We’re a lot closer to a 10-game or 11-game conference schedule - across the board -than we are to any conference championship games being eliminated. That’s what the networks actually want. More compelling games and less P4 vs. G5/FCS laughing stock games that nobody cares about.

SEC is taylor made right now for a 11-game schedule, and returning to divisions. Two 8-team divisions. Play all 7 teams in your division every year. Rotate all the opponents in the opposite division for the other 4 games. Rotate all 4 opponents every year so that you play everyone in the SEC every 2 year period. Or rotate 2 off per year so you play everyone every 4 years. Whatever works.

West Division:

Texas A&M
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
LSU
Missouri
Ole Miss
Mississippi State

East Division:

Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
Vandy
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
Tennessee

Every single traditional rivalry is preserved.
Then only two SEC teams make the playoffs. Maybe three in a good year. No way the league is going to let us beat up on each other that much and ruin the chance of a Natty.
 
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patdog

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Then only two SEC teams make the playoffs. Maybe three in a good year. No way the league is going to let us beat up on each other that much and ruin the chance of a Natty.
They'd still be more than 2 in, but yeah. SEC has been fighting tooth & nail against going to a 9-game conference schedule for years now. No way they're going to go to 11. Or go back to divisions.
 
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HuntDawg

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They'd still be more than 2 in, but yeah. SEC has been fighting tooth & nail against going to a 9-game conference schedule for years now. No way they're going to go to 11. Or go back to divisions.
divisons maybe... 10 or 11 game schedule... no way in hell

we forget that the sport is the tail that wags the dog. not these networks. Football is the cash cow. Doesnt matter how many games get played or what not.. some network will pay.
 

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This will happen in the next playoff format. The current format is only for the 2024 and 2025 seasons. Expect a 14-team playoff with 4 guaranteed bids for the Big 10 and SEC starting in 2026.
How does 14 work?
 

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It exists to propel the lower seed to a win and into the 2 team or 4 team playoff.

Now that every Tom Dick and Harry can make the playoffs, once we knock a 3 loss team out of the field of 12, you can bet your sweet arse it will go away.

In fact I would not be surprised to see a team refuse to play in it this year
 
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patdog

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It exists to propel the lower seed to a win and into the 2 team or 4 team playoff.

Now that every Tom Dick and Harry can make the playoffs, once we knock a 3 loss team out of the field of 12, you can bet your sweet arse it will go away.

In fact I would not be surprised to see a team refuse to play in it this year
It exists to MAKE MONEY. A lot of money. And no. No one is going to refuse to play in it, no matter what Lane Kiffin said.
 

HuntDawg

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It exists to propel the lower seed to a win and into the 2 team or 4 team playoff.

Now that every Tom Dick and Harry can make the playoffs, once we knock a 3 loss team out of the field of 12, you can bet your sweet arse it will go away.

In fact I would not be surprised to see a team refuse to play in it this year
agree.. changes are coming... although no one is going to refuse to play in the game.

However let a star player get injured or a team get eliminated from the playoffs due to this... and it'll change quicker
 

Perd Hapley

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Then only two SEC teams make the playoffs. Maybe three in a good year. No way the league is going to let us beat up on each other that much and ruin the chance of a Natty.
There’s too much money to be made across the board. It won’t just be the SEC changing…it will be everyone at some point. You think the much hyped “super league” is going to form, and still schedule games against UT Martin and Toledo? Hell no.

This year, there are only like 2-3 games in the entire last 3 weeks of the season with profound playoff implications in the current set up, because of the crappy schedules with no one playing anyone. IU vs Ohio State, UGA-Tennessee, Texas-Texas A&M. That’s it. All the other games mean basically nothing (unless some heavy favorite loses), or there’s way too much ambiguity in the scenarios that no one can really quantify what they mean….so you can’t hype them at all for a broad audience. You greatly expand the number of meaningful games by expanding the conference schedules.

What you want is 6-7 games every week that affect the playoff picture, with 20-25 teams in contention some way or another until the end. Right now you’ve only got like 15 teams with a realistic chance for a 12 team field, with two whole weeks left.

You don’t get any of that added intrigue without divisions, or without scheduling models that create a clear pecking order in every conference. Hell, right now we don’t really even have conferences.
 

HuntDawg

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There’s too much money to be made across the board. It won’t just be the SEC changing…it will be everyone at some point. You think the much hyped “super league” is going to form, and still schedule games against UT Martin and Toledo? Hell no.

This year, there are only like 2-3 games in the entire last 3 weeks of the season with profound playoff implications in the current set up, because of the crappy schedules with no one playing anyone. IU vs Ohio State, UGA-Tennessee, Texas-Texas A&M. That’s it. All the other games mean basically nothing (unless some heavy favorite loses), or there’s way too much ambiguity in the scenarios that no one can really quantify what they mean….so you can’t hype them at all for a broad audience. You greatly expand the number of meaningful games by expanding the conference schedules.

What you want is 6-7 games every week that affect the playoff picture, with 20-25 teams in contention some way or another until the end. Right now you’ve only got like 15 teams with a realistic chance for a 12 team field, with two whole weeks left.

You don’t get any of that added intrigue without divisions, or without scheduling models that create a clear pecking order in every conference. Hell, right now we don’t really even have conferences.
Basically turning it into the nfl. I think it’ll eventually get that way. But no time soon
 

Perd Hapley

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Basically turning it into the nfl. I think it’ll eventually get that way. But no time soon
Yes, precisely. That’s really the only chance of it not sucking. Fans are already being turned away in droves. I personally don’t plan on watching any more games until the conference title games, and probably won’t even watch most of those. That includes MSU games.
 

patdog

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If we were any good, I would really care about this. But since we are decades away from thinking about a playoff spot, I don't.
Right there with you. It's kind of interesting to talk about. But I doubt I watch any playoff games until the semi-finals.
 

Perd Hapley

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I seriously do not think that the SEC & Big 10 care whether the ACC & Big 12 are included in the CFP? They probably don't want to exclude Notre Dame, but the SEC now has all the brand-names from the old Big 12 and the Big 10 has all of them from the Pac-12.
Honestly, the SEC could pull out of the CFP entirely, then set up their own 4-team, 6-team, or 8-team playoff, then name the winner the national champion. At least 8 or 9 years out of every 10, the winner would be the best team in the country. Games would be huge draws, and SEC would get to keep all the money. Other CFP would continue in parallel, but in no way could it claim any legitimacy without SEC participation.

Then when ACC grant runs out…..they add FSU, Clemson, Miami, Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, and USCw, and that’s your first 24-team super league. The league champion from would be the national champion 100% of the time. Then you’d start to see minor expansion, uneven revenue sharing, some low revenue teams getting pushed out for your Wisconsins, North Carolinas, etc. to join. The SEC is the only league with the clout to do this.
 
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