Dropped 3 spots
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Only Penn State can fall three spots without playing. Everyone hates us.
Just drop us to #13. Get us ready for 2024.
Just drop us to #13. Get us ready for 2024.
In 2024 I hope the committee doesn’t manipulate rankings to avoid some cold weather games.
OSU moves up 1, we move down 3. Neither of us played. Seems par for the course.
I wish we could play Kansas State. I don’t think they are better.
I wish we could play Kansas State. I don’t think they are better.
Two three loss teams ranked above, That speaks volumes about the Committee.
Heck, neither is Tennessee or USC for that matter.
they said we "were not dropped - others were moved up" - this is not made up. their arrow next to us showed down 3 spots.
Utah, Clemson and Kansas State "moved up" (i.e. went past us). assume Utah will be favored over us.
i think we could beat Kansas State and TCU. TCU is going to get rolled by Michigan. It would have been interesting if tOSU had been moved to 3 and a rematch.
The analysts are already talking about a potential fully healthy tOSU team. All their WRs and RBs healthy is a load even for UGA.
Jesse Palmer just stated that the OSU-PSU game was one-sided. That’s further evidence of two things: 1) these ESPN talking heads don’t actually watch that many games, and 2) it matters how the scoreboard looks to a lot of people, so we need to remember that as we enter the new playoff era soon.
I hate to fall into a conspiracy theory, but I will!
Seems like the committee moved us up last week to prop up a one loss OSU just in case USC lost. Now that OSU is in the CFP they don’t need us so we drop (sorry - others passed us
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Seems like the committee moved us up last week to prop up a one loss OSU just in case USC lost. Now that OSU is in the CFP they don’t need us so we drop (sorry - others passed us
)I think there are those that still think PSU is tainted due to the scandal therefore they don’t respect us. Until ha ha there are formal apologies and facts made public on Twitter etc, we will remain tainted to the clowns on ESPN etc. I also think that until we can consistently beat the big 2, they won’t respect us.
just checked AP and coaches polls
9 in AP and 7th in Coach's poll
Utah 7th in AP 10th in Coach's
value rewarded for teams winning Conference playoff game
Yeah look, we can complain all we want, but a lot of these folks turn into a few penn state games a year, when they watch us get blown out by Michigan and they run for 400 yards on us, its just a bad look to complain about our ranking. Yes, teams like Clemson, Alabama, OSU will always get treated more favorably, because you know what, they have been winning a lot more than us over the last 5 years, winning at the highest levels. Seriously, how bad you think Alabama beats us by at this point? You guys think we're there?
Jesse did not mention Tennessee's 25 point loss to unranked team
No point in crying about it. Beat Ohio State and we're in the playoffs. Only one place to point the finger.. at ourselves.
Did he say anything about what Michigan did to OSU? That score wasn’t much different than the PSU/Michigan score. Also, we seem to play Michigan and OSU in a tighter time frame than they have to.
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The privileged perception of the SEC for ESPN employees will only get stronger with our league disappearing from their network. Their takes do influence people given the status ESPN holds in cfb broadcasting. It’s why it is vital that Fox get a portion of the CFP rights so that they have some skin in the game for the teams they broadcast.
But when you point three fingers at yourself, you point one at someone else.
there should not be a committee. We have the coaches and AP polls just use those rankings.
The committee is designed to be even more objective than those polls. How many games do AP voters actually watch each week? They have lots of deadlines they have to meet and they focus on specific games they cover. And the coaches? Ha! It’s widely thought that a number of coaches just have someone on staff submit their votes.
You’re never going to get no bias. But, with a committee, at least you have a group of people who 1) have as their job to watch as many games as they can, and 2) they actually discuss and debate with each other various viewpoints each week. I’d rather have that than a collection of rankings from a variety of individuals who may or may not pay close attention to a bunch of games.
Beat OSU and they probably put Alabama in using our beat down by MI as the reason. In my opinion if you don't win your conference you shouldn't be part of a "playoff".
Nice theory. How about, 10 conferences, 10 conference winners advance to the playoff. No wildcards. No voters, no commitees, no opinions need apply. WIN and you're in.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. It's all about the money. It's always about the money. Wildcards are about nothing but the money. It has little to nothing to do with crowning a champion.
Guys this is what happens when we finish 3rd (all the time) in the east. 10-2 is great I read here.
That’s kind of what I was saying. Basically there are 2 areas From where the disrespect comes .. media narratives that still linger from the scandal and the fact that we still cannot consistently beat the big 2.
Just FWIW, you could get "no bias" by just having an objective ranking system of something like RPI. Now, such a system would probably suck for college football due to having relatively few games especially few non-conference games between power conferences. But if the desire was to have a non biased solution, there can be a mathematical symptoms set up before the season and just applied at the end to determine the participants.
To also be fair to the committee, they are pretty much been consistent with criteria. It's basically the power teams with the fewest losses get in. Conference champions are favored over non-champions with the same number of losses. CCG winners favored over champions who do not play in a CCG. Non Power 5 teams need to have 2 fewer losses than P5 options to get in. IT's easy to get stuck in the weeds of thinking the committee is being opaque but it's really come down to "don't lose more than 1 game".
I’m open to new approaches that can introduce even more objective ways to measure rankings, but at the end of the day even RPI is still susceptible to forms of bias in the assumptions built into the criteria that inform the mathematical system.
We beat Purdue when we weren't even in the polls, what's the point ? Also we did beat Auburn, at Auburn . I don't even want to mention the non- conference games of the teams ahead of us.
So if Purdue had beaten Michigan, then they should have passed PSU with four losses….got it.
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