Dropped 3 spots

psuno1

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Why not? They would have been conference champs. The rankings are what they are. Just beat Utah.
Purdue was not even in the Top 25 of the playoff rankings, they were not going to jump 15 to 17 sports to jump PSU with a win, they would have kicked PSU out of the Rose Bowl, the other teams that past PSU in the rankings were not 15 or 17 lower.
 

Ludd

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Purdue was not even in the Top 25 of the playoff rankings, they were not going to jump 15 to 17 sports to jump PSU with a win, they would have kicked PSU out of the Rose Bowl, the other teams that past PSU in the rankings were not 15 or 17 lower.
But you posted that others passed PSU because they were conference champs and it wasn’t surprising….had Purdue won, they would have been conference champs.
 

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But you posted that others passed PSU because they were conference champs and it wasn’t surprising….had Purdue won, they would have been conference champs.
Teams that were one or three spots behind PSU not 17 to 15.
 

blion72

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Teams that were one or three spots behind PSU not 17 to 15.
if this were a year where we were in the 12 team playoff, these rankings would matter a bit more. assume that the conf games are going to drop when we start the 12 team playoff, but ranking will man a lot.
 

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Being conference champs didn’t matter for some teams in 2016… number of losses was the only thing that counted.

If this was a 12 team playoff that drop would have cost us a home game in the first round.
 
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The fact that people still give credence to the AP poll or the coaches poll or anything involving a preseason poll is laughable. They mean nothing nowadays. All it does is stoke perception. Would Texas A&M's 5-7 season been a big deal this year had they not been randomly ranked preseason top 10? The polls no longer decide a 'champion'.

What was Penn State's best win this season? Probably Purdue and then Auburn. Not exactly an earthshaker. The biggest issue with the committee's rankings -- and this has been a problem since the very beginning of this -- is that they put rankings out for each week of the last 2 months of the season. Therefore, fans get an overinflated view of where they are (through no fault of their own) versus where they end up when the fire of the regular season is finally put out. If the football committee takes a hint from the basketball committee, they won't set themselves up for second-guessing and controversy by having a weekly rankings release. Because while I laugh at those whining about getting dropped, I completely agree with @blion72 in that there will be a lot of pissed off fans who were thinking that they'd get a home game only to see the next week that they're barely in the tournament.
 

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Being conference champs didn’t matter for some teams in 2016… number of losses was the only thing that counted.

If this was a 12 team playoff that drop would have cost us a home game in the first round.
It's all in the Johnny Reb Confederacy that is the southern press.
 

harjeff

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Yeah look, we can complain all we want, but a lot of these folks turn into a few penn state games a year, when they watch us get blown out by Michigan and they run for 400 yards on us, its just a bad look to complain about our ranking. Yes, teams like Clemson, Alabama, OSU will always get treated more favorably, because you know what, they have been winning a lot more than us over the last 5 years, winning at the highest levels. Seriously, how bad you think Alabama beats us by at this point? You guys think we're there?
This year I think a PSU/Bama game is very even. Bame was not that great this year and could easily have 4 losses, they got very lucky vs Texas and I believe Auburn was a little better vs Bama than the PSU score.
 

Ludd

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Teams that were one or three spots behind PSU not 17 to 15.
So if TCU doesn’t get penalized for losing their CCG, why should K State get rewarded? Either they count or they don’t. K State got to play in their CCG with a 9-3 record, they wouldn’t have if they were in the Big Ten East…it’s not a level playing field and shouldn’t be treated like it is.
 

OptionBob

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So if TCU doesn’t get penalized for losing their CCG, why should K State get rewarded? Either they count or they don’t. K State got to play in their CCG with a 9-3 record, they wouldn’t have if they were in the Big Ten East…it’s not a level playing field and shouldn’t be treated like it is.
Very good point. And I can remember when a Colorado team was ranked #3 because its "only losses" were to #1 NU and #2 OU.

The rest of the Big 8 was much softer than the current Big Ten.

To paraphrase Tolstoy: "Polls. What are they good for?"
 

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Very good point. And I can remember when a Colorado team was ranked #3 because its "only losses" were to #1 NU and #2 OU.

The rest of the Big 8 was much softer than the current Big Ten.

To paraphrase Tolstoy: "Polls. What are they good for?"
“Absolutely nothing.”
 
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LionJim

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Very good point. And I can remember when a Colorado team was ranked #3 because its "only losses" were to #1 NU and #2 OU.

The rest of the Big 8 was much softer than the current Big Ten.

To paraphrase Tolstoy: "Polls. What are they good for?"
Nice Tolstoy reference. (Yeah, I know it wasn’t Tolstoy.)
 

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My guess is that they might have dropped PSU so the OSU win over us didn't look all that impressive thus they left OSU at #4 and avoiding a rematch with Michigan which nobody wanted
 
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