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InstitutionFall 2023Fall 2024Number Change% Change
Alcorn State University2,8942,9951013.5%
Delta State University2,7162,654-62-2.3%
Jackson State University6,5646,326-238-3.6%
Mississippi State University22,65723,1504932.2%
Mississippi University for Women2,2272,193-34-1.5%
Mississippi Valley State University2,1962,20590.4%
University of Mississippi24,71027,1242,4149.8%
– University of Mississippi21,59623,9812,38511.0%
– University of Mississippi Medical Center3,1143,143290.9%
University of Southern Mississippi13,11013,170600.5%
System Total77,07479,8172,7433.6%
 
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patdog said:
Apparently, success is football leads to enrollment gains. Mississippi is 17ing killing is.
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During Saban's tenure Bama's enrollment increased from 25K to 40K.

Football was probably not the only contributing factor... during that time they also began aggressively recruiting high academic out-of-state kids... but I bet it didn't hurt.
 
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Xenomorph said:
During Saban's tenure Bama's enrollment increased from 25K to 40K.

Football was probably not the only contributing factor... during that time they also began aggressively recruiting high academic out-of-state kids... but I bet it didn't hurt.
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Those two things went together. Football program success and exposure led directly to out of state kids being open to recruitment to Bama, Texas, Illinois, Missouri, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, all had tons of kids attending Alabama during the Saban run.
 
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Xenomorph said:
During Saban's tenure Bama's enrollment increased from 25K to 40K.

Football was probably not the only contributing factor... during that time they also began aggressively recruiting high academic out-of-state kids... but I bet it didn't hurt.
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Years ago someone asked one of their trustees about Saban’s huge contact. He said Nick Saban was the best financial investment they had ever made.
 
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Well OM does take anyone ..out of state kids can’t get in anywhere but OM however they have money to burn and high tide raises all boats
 
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Mr. Cook said:
I hate to say this but there are statistical analyses going back to the early 70s that show a very strong direct correlation between wins in a football season and the following year’s freshman enrollment.

nothing new here
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Don't know what's worse, that we suck at football, or that football success actually drives enrollment at our state institutions of higher learning.

MuH pUbLiC sKoOs
 
onewoof

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Better to have a profitable 2% gain than a 8 figure loss that you creatively report as a gain.
 
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If football drives enrollment, we have much much bigger problems than enrollment. I have literally NEVER in almost 30 years, talked to a serious student contemplating his or her college choices who even remotely considered what the football team was doing in the their selection process. If they had, I would have told them to go to sleep and reevaluate their priorities.
 
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Villagedawg said:
If football drives enrollment, we have much much bigger problems than enrollment. I have literally NEVER in almost 30 years, talked to a serious student contemplating his or her college choices who even remotely considered what the football team was doing in the their selection process. If they had, I would have told them to go to sleep and reevaluate their priorities.
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Serious students don't. It's the ones who don't care. If Mississippi State didn't have an SEC program - I doubt I would have come to State. It was part of the experience of me choosing a college. It came down between LSU and State as I started off in chemical engineering.
 
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dawgstudent said:
Serious students don't. It's the ones who don't care. If Mississippi State didn't have an SEC program - I doubt I would have come to State. It was part of the experience of me choosing a college. It came down between LSU and State as I started off in chemical engineering.
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I could actually see you wearing a gold sequin body suit and purple cowboy hat on a football saturday.
 
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8dog said:
I don’t know but they have a 97% acceptance rate. Ours is around 75. They are taking kids they cannot even house. It’s a money grab and not the worst idea.
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What about the so called "enrollment cliff?" Is that something that's overblown? At State, we're building more dorms, no concern about who will fill them 5-10 years from now?
 
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dawgstudent said:
Serious students don't. It's the ones who don't care. If Mississippi State didn't have an SEC program - I doubt I would have come to State. It was part of the experience of me choosing a college. It came down between LSU and State as I started off in chemical engineering.
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Along this line of thinking, where the credentials of the major are nearly equal, I told my son when he was deciding to pick a college that would likely have winning teams because that stays with you for the rest of your life. He chose LSU.
 
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The Cooterpoot said:
Primary, sure, only NO, but that's what Keenum is about. William Carey is run better than Mississippi State
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William Carey is better run than MSU and UM. Most colleges like them are sucking air and trying to survive. They saw the writing on the wall years ago and put in place a strategic plan to make sure they stayed relevant. That's why they have a DO school and a pharmacy school.
 
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8dog said:
I don’t know but they have a 97% acceptance rate. Ours is around 75. They are taking kids they cannot even house. It’s a money grab and not the worst idea.
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How does this work when we have the same admission standards? Are they getting that many more applicants? Are they offering more scholarship money to lower performing students? Serious question.
 
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Villagedawg said:
How does this work when we have the same admission standards? Are they getting that many more applicants? Are they offering more scholarship money to lower performing students? Serious question.
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I don’t know the answer to that.
 
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8dog said:
I don’t know the answer to that.
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Out of state can be different, in state has to be the same as all other 7 IHL Schools

Yes, UM is getting that much more applicants as they have created a brand that those who cant get into Texas, Georgia, UNC, UVA, etc can and not embarrass the parents from Highland Park.

Their freshman class is about 70% out of state this year, and as someone else mentioned, they have nowhere to house them or feed them, so they have put kids up as far away as Batesville and required meal-tickets are unable to be used.

Dont get me wrong, they have created a good product, but they have taken too much too fast.
 
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Villagedawg said:
If football drives enrollment, we have much much bigger problems than enrollment. I have literally NEVER in almost 30 years, talked to a serious student contemplating his or her college choices who even remotely considered what the football team was doing in the their selection process. If they had, I would have told them to go to sleep and reevaluate their priorities.
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I considered myself a serious student, but I was still very much concerned about having fun in college. It's not like I was checking records, but being good or bad at football absolutely impacts how much fun and energy there is on a college campus visit. Regardless of who was a fan of which school, we were much more likely to pile into a car and go to State or Ole Miss based on the quality of football game that weekend and how many people we thought would be at either place. You make a few visits like that and have fun, and it's going to move a school up in the order for the vast majority of students. Just very few graduating high schoolers that are only concerned about academics and/or career prospects when selecting colleges. Even ones looking for selective schools probably care whether their school is going to be in Nashville, TN or Claremont, CA.
 
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