I never understood why the university went all in on baseball, a minor regional sport that brings in little to no money, and put football and basketball, the two biggest sports by far that being in millions of dollars, on the back burner. People go to baseball games just to go. It’s a social thing. Doesn’t matter how good the team is. Football needs that.
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Isn’t that kind of a reflection of the fanbase? When NIL first hit there were several posters that said they weren’t going to give to football because what’s the point? We are just going to get outspent and never will be able to compete with the big boys. I don’t feel that way because I realize we are doing more with less and have been for 14 years. I also have no delusions of being a perennial top 10 program.
Upper deck is about all we do if we bring our kids. You have a good view of plays developing, but can’t see the detail you do closer to the field. I’d rather be in the stadium than not go at all, so that’s what we do.
I prefer the minor regional sport as some have mentioned.
At least if you **** the bed in the 1st, you’re not competing against the opponent and time. The other team still has to record 27 outs
At least if you **** the bed in the 1st, you’re not competing against the opponent and time. The other team still has to record 27 outs
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this plus the economy, plus some apathy, plus other things I can’t think of I guess.
The travel sports have to be a non negligible impact. You’ve got travel soccer now pretty consistently starting in august for kids as young as 8. then a lot of people are playing travel baseball in the fall now although it seems like the tournaments aren’t every weekend.
Even the rec league interferes with Saturday games basically from mid September or early October depending on where you are, although that at least leaves the later games as an option.
Just a lot more things pulling on people’s time than in the past and pulling harder, while the tv experience has gotten better.
I miss tailgating and miss coming to campus and if money were no object, I’d love to come every home game.
But looking at spending $1,000 -$1200 for a weekend and all the sudden that competes with a lot of three day weekend trips we can take. the biggest thing to me is that compared to all the other trips, football weekends are work. Spending $1200 on other trips means other than the drive, we basically just pay for stuff and it’s enjoyable. We don’t have to plan for a tailgate or worry about packing things in and out and walking or dealing with tricky parking or lack of Uber or anything.
Even the rec league interferes with Saturday games basically from mid September or early October depending on where you are, although that at least leaves the later games as an option.
Just a lot more things pulling on people’s time than in the past and pulling harder, while the tv experience has gotten better.
I miss tailgating and miss coming to campus and if money were no object, I’d love to come every home game.
But looking at spending $1,000 -$1200 for a weekend and all the sudden that competes with a lot of three day weekend trips we can take. the biggest thing to me is that compared to all the other trips, football weekends are work. Spending $1200 on other trips means other than the drive, we basically just pay for stuff and it’s enjoyable. We don’t have to plan for a tailgate or worry about packing things in and out and walking or dealing with tricky parking or lack of Uber or anything.
It really comes down to supply and demand. I guess we make less from ticket sales than TV/SEC contracts. If we really want to fill the stadium start cutting ticket prices. Perhaps the AD department prefers to have less fans and a higher ROI. Either that or increase demand by fielding a top 10 team (see Colorado). Depends on where we want to be.
Well the AD strategy for decades has been 17 the fans, if they don't come someone else will. And many have now called that bet.
Let's separate individual games from season tickets. For season tickets, don't have 6 of 7 games at the worst possible kickoff times, and you'll sell more. Plus, with Stubhub and such a family can now just pick a convenient game for the experience, and save thousands. Season ticket holders should get a discount, not a markup.
Another thing that makes all of college sports suck now are the free transfer waivers….combined with being out bid for our best players.
It happened with our best receiver this year…along with our starting RB…they just about nabbed our other two WR’s…. it almost happened to our best baseball player…..
At some point, the donations will cease, especially if we are just considered a farm system for richer universities.
If this keeps up in the direction it’s headed, we will continue to sink. Not sure what saves it but like I’ve said in previous post……I’d rather compete in a league which we can actually have a chance of winning a trophy. The SEC money, to me, isn’t worth the suck we will continue to endure playing against opponents who can buy what they want.
Money is the game. High volume drives the over the top budgets….we can’t compete here.
I’m ready for the powers to break away and I hope we join other universities in our similar predicament and bring back amateur athletics.
People will get sick of this shhit sooner than later.
Y’all ever seen the movie Field of Dreams? People will come, Ray. Oh they will come.
It happened with our best receiver this year…along with our starting RB…they just about nabbed our other two WR’s…. it almost happened to our best baseball player…..
At some point, the donations will cease, especially if we are just considered a farm system for richer universities.
If this keeps up in the direction it’s headed, we will continue to sink. Not sure what saves it but like I’ve said in previous post……I’d rather compete in a league which we can actually have a chance of winning a trophy. The SEC money, to me, isn’t worth the suck we will continue to endure playing against opponents who can buy what they want.
Money is the game. High volume drives the over the top budgets….we can’t compete here.
I’m ready for the powers to break away and I hope we join other universities in our similar predicament and bring back amateur athletics.
People will get sick of this shhit sooner than later.
Y’all ever seen the movie Field of Dreams? People will come, Ray. Oh they will come.
"Well is the AD strategy for decades has been 17 the fans, if they don't come someone else will. And many have now called that bet."
And this the very reason I started losing interest long before we ever heard of Covid, NIL and all that other bullschit. The relentless commercialization of the game from the schools on up has just been sickening to watch for me and the NIL was just the icing on the cake. I admit I'm a dinosaur but it just ain't as much fun as it used to be IMO.
And this the very reason I started losing interest long before we ever heard of Covid, NIL and all that other bullschit. The relentless commercialization of the game from the schools on up has just been sickening to watch for me and the NIL was just the icing on the cake. I admit I'm a dinosaur but it just ain't as much fun as it used to be IMO.
Pipe down, commie. Unfettered capitalism is always better!******
I don't think this is the problem you think it is. Parity seems to be gaining steam. A lot of teams now have pretty serviceable players, where many of those guys were on the bench for the blue bloods last year. State ourselves have benefitted greatly. I will trade RaRa for a Spivey (had he done it right), Brown, Jones, Wright, Albert, Rogers (Khamauri), Keys, all the kickers, and Goede. That's one heck of a return on a trade, and don't get me wrong, we likely don't see all the return for a year or so. However, we are seeing the return on Davis, Robinson, Smith and countless others now.
NIL is what truly sucks and is doing the damage for us. We simply cannot afford that crap so we need to conserve that for in-state 5-star level guys (which we've always paid for) and our homegrown stars (like a Tulu for example).
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Because MS is a baseball state, and people want to be a winner? And thus far it's the only sport where State can truly say we were the best at something?
You're wrong on why people go to State baseball games. They go because we're good, they like seeing a winner and they love the program. Over time, does that develop some social aspects? Of course, and that's a good thing.
Don't be a dipshit.
Seems to me the rich have just gotten richer.
I don’t see a lot of parity at all. Seems like the same top 15 since 2001.
You’d think Tx Tech and Baylor and Kstate and Vtech and Gtech and Nebraska and UCLA and Houston UAB or Memphis….Tulane…Indiana….would have been able to substantially improve and continue upward projections….truth is, they can’t, they havnt and like MSU in 2014, all have been flash in the pans over the last 25 years….minus Nebraska in the 90’s…which makes this all more baffling.
If we don’t change back to pre BCS era rules and the NCAA continues its “slapping of the wrist” it won’t matter if we have a 36 team playoff….eventually, the 36 wealthiest football budgets, year after year, will be in the playoff. Do this long enough and it will happen, I promise.
I don’t see a lot of parity at all. Seems like the same top 15 since 2001.
You’d think Tx Tech and Baylor and Kstate and Vtech and Gtech and Nebraska and UCLA and Houston UAB or Memphis….Tulane…Indiana….would have been able to substantially improve and continue upward projections….truth is, they can’t, they havnt and like MSU in 2014, all have been flash in the pans over the last 25 years….minus Nebraska in the 90’s…which makes this all more baffling.
If we don’t change back to pre BCS era rules and the NCAA continues its “slapping of the wrist” it won’t matter if we have a 36 team playoff….eventually, the 36 wealthiest football budgets, year after year, will be in the playoff. Do this long enough and it will happen, I promise.
Well last week I booked the Marriott for $1,050 for 2 nights after tax.
certainly not cheap but way more reasonable than the Hampton price.
that number may be higher now.
Buf If prices are that high, people are booking the rooms.
There's more rooms than there used to be and people are booking them. Same for Airbnb etc. So it's not that. It has to be day trippers and locals.
I live in a dilapidated trailer in Crackers Neck. I'd rather buy a $20K side by side and jack that sumbeach up and throw on big tires and nice rims so I can blow it up swamping. Then pull it home with my $90K F250 that I also jacked up and put nice rims on. Oh, and Hail State!
That's the rural MS way of life.
That's the rural MS way of life.
No state is a baseball state. Not a single one. It's barely a regional sport. It's barely ahead of womens basketball. It's fine to support it. But no school should be selling it as THE SPORT. It costs the schools money. Football pays the bills and should be the priority. John Cohen was and is an idiot.
Genuinely confused.
You are saying the rooms are getting booked right?
So you are saying it’s less day trippers coming to games? I can but that.
But I often see people saying the reason attendance is down is due to the high cost of rooms.
My dad has driven 4 hrs one way and back for almost 55 years from southwest Ms.
Not cheap but certainly not super expensive if you wanna do a day trip.
This thread is depressing. We are the saddest collection of losers in the world. The end