Reported multimillion NIL deal rocks college football recruiting world
A report says a five-star recruit has signed a multimillion NIL deal. Coaches say the deal would be a game-changer, and not in a good way.
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Thanks NCAA for being so stupid, ignorant, leaderless, and stubborn over the years that this is now where we are.
They aren't reporting that. I personally think Arch Manning has to be considered a possibility.
If it is, good for him. However, it would be great to see a young kid that comes from nothing get that deal.
If this is true I am done with college sports, at least at the D1 level. Why donate to a facility funding drive, an alumni fan club, or any other sports related initiative? It would be like writing a check to GM, Boeing, or the Pittsburgh Steelers. I might like their product, but let them do their own financing.
Kavanaugh drinks to much beer.Reported multimillion NIL deal rocks college football recruiting world
A report says a five-star recruit has signed a multimillion NIL deal. Coaches say the deal would be a game-changer, and not in a good way.www.on3.com
I am not trying to convince anyone to have my opinion. It has gradually come to the point, and now with pay for play, that college football is a sport of mercenary vs. mercenary. At that level I don’t care anymore.
I believe there is no place for a university to be involved in professional sports. Penn State should reconsider their involvement and focus on the educational and knowledge based development purpose that should be their objective. The huge expenditures for facilities, coaches, training, etc. are an expensive distraction.
Perhaps the Ivy League will return to the model of one hundred years ago, when football and basketball were not much more than club sports with amateur students representing their universities. I was a big Penn Quaker fan as a kid. Maybe I’ll go full circle and become one once again.
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Nico iamaleava qb from warren hs in downey ca going to Tennessee is who I heard. My cousin is a Warren hs grad and her kids who go there as well said that's the word around town.
Thanks. It makes you then wonder what Arch Manning will get.
Let me get this straight....after years and years of football factories paying their players in mostly hidden ways, and occasionally being caught but merely getting their hands slapped. now it's out in the open and we're suddenly appalled?
We aren’t talking about a player finding a roll of twenties in his motel drawer. Now it is open pay for play. Professionalism.
I'm sure it would be huge but I also think that Louisiana is a state that does not allow high school kids to sign anything until after they've graduated so we might not know until then
True. Arch also comes from a “good” family that is as savvy as it gets on recruiting and marketing. I’m sure they won’t rush into anything and will draw out multiple offers.
More information on the terms of the deal (apparently, The Athletic reviewed the contract and it's 'legal' per all existing NIL rules/regulations):
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A class of 2023 five-star football recruit has reportedly signed a name, image and likeness deal with a school’s collective that could be worth more than $8 million by the end of junior year of college, according to The Athletic.
This is believed to be the largest NIL deal by a non-professional athlete.
Per the report, the unnamed rising star would be paid $350,000 “almost immediately” and then receive monthly payments that would increase to more than $2 million a year when the athlete is on campus. In exchange, he will make public appearances and play a role in social media promotions as well as participate in other NIL activities.
According to The Athletic, this athlete has not signed a letter of intent with the school yet, and despite the multimillion dollar deal, the individual is not bound to sign one. The attorney who drafted the deal told the outlet, “There’s an element of trust there.”
NIL deals have continued to grow across the country, and, per The Athletic, the NCAA Board of Directors asked the Division I council last month to create a report about NIL’s impact on recruiting, as well as other topics.
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A class of 2023 five-star football recruit has reportedly signed a name, image and likeness deal with a school’s collective that could be worth more than $8 million by the end of junior year of college, according to The Athletic.
This is believed to be the largest NIL deal by a non-professional athlete.
Per the report, the unnamed rising star would be paid $350,000 “almost immediately” and then receive monthly payments that would increase to more than $2 million a year when the athlete is on campus. In exchange, he will make public appearances and play a role in social media promotions as well as participate in other NIL activities.
According to The Athletic, this athlete has not signed a letter of intent with the school yet, and despite the multimillion dollar deal, the individual is not bound to sign one. The attorney who drafted the deal told the outlet, “There’s an element of trust there.”
NIL deals have continued to grow across the country, and, per The Athletic, the NCAA Board of Directors asked the Division I council last month to create a report about NIL’s impact on recruiting, as well as other topics.
I’m not seeing any discussion of any legal review in the excerpt you posted. Is it correct to say that the legal review you allude to is elsewhere in the article?
Yes, sorry - the actual contract review is in The Athletic's article (which is behind a pay wall).
What's interesting here is that when NIL was first being discussed, it was more about a college superstar being able to cash in with a private company (like Nike, or Coke, or BMW) - like what Quinn Ewers did. I think the whole 'crowd sourced' collective - very closely tied to schools - has thrown a wrench into the whole thing and the NCAA has no interest in ending back up in court and schools are now in a not-so-transparent arms race and are blurring the lines between recruiting and NIL deals. I think it's terrific entertainment though and hope this leads to some kind of reform in CFB that further separates the have/have nots. Go to a 32 team league with the big money teams and let them pay players outright. Everyone else can play four figure NIL deals with The Student Bookstore and scholarships.
Where would you like State to position themselves, 32 or 33? (I’m 33)
Same. Won’t lessen my enthusiasm or enjoyment of the games at all - might increase it.
100% agree, let the kids compete. I can’t begin to describe the joy I got watching my sons compete in high school. It’s was pure, like no other.
Ncaa was like that, March madness starts this week, what small underdog goes deep this year? Soon that will be gone too.
Why will March Madness be gone? You’ll always have players enough to field a team.
The rules that are theoretically in effect are in line with what you thought NIL was. The NIL was indeed to allow the player to get value from then name, image and likeness by cutting a deal where an actual functional entity (i.e. a company) pays the player for their value. This is just Aaron and Patrick with State Farm stuff. The NCAA rules (approved by the Presidents) prohibited using NIL to recruit or pay for play. I think the assumption was that these deals would be between an entity not connected to the school and they would be getting value by hiring the player under an NIL contract. You would assume that State Farm might go after QB Quinn Ewers for commercials - so would they see his value being greater than Patrick and Aaron? Is a 5* HS player worth more in an add than Patrick or Aaron? Maybe there is some 5* that is worth more than the top brand players in the NFL, but wonder what product that may be associated with. If it is purely a local car dealer, how much are they willing to pay for a celeb to endorse their business?
The crowd source models are essentially non entities paying for no real services and inducing a player to sign to a certain school. That would seem to violate all the rules currently written by the NCAA. The question is really do the university Presidents want to these rules or not. If they really want these rules to be in play, then the NCAA will enforce them. Not sure what the legal argument would be against the NCAA to enforce these rules. The NCAA is not interfering with a player getting NIL, just because they punish a school for rules violations. What happens if a player has a big NIL deal, but they fail to make academic standing to play. If the sponsor then cancels their NIL deal, does the player have a legal argument against the school? What about if a player has a big deal but gets beat out by a less heralded player, does the player now have a case against the coaching staff? If yes on these two items, then all form of rationality has now evaporated.
"College" football died some time ago- time for a decent burial.
“There’s nothing in writing attaching him to that school, but, he does sign away all his NIL rights for three years.”
Yea nothing at all!!
Yea nothing at all!!
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This is the hook. Sure, the kid can sign with any school he wants, but now that the collective owns his NIL rights, they can limit his earning potential if they don’t like where he signs. They don’t have much to lose really either way. The bigger implication is, what happens next year? Will they be able to pay another 5* QB who wants to come to that school? Maybe. But - maybe they like the 4* because he’s cheaper and won’t unseat their 5* guy any time soon. Roster implications are huge with this…
What romance was that? It was romantic when institutions and coaches, and arena operators, and nearby business owners, and tv networks, and recruiting services were stuffing their pockets with gobs of money based off the successes or failures of a bunch of 17-22 year olds, many of whom were going to school solely for the chance to play a sport ... and each decision to change the makeup of the recruiting process/sport was meant to drive more money into those pockets ... but now that those kids have a chance to get a little bit of that money ... all of a sudden, the "romance" is dead? Exploiting kids and young adults for massive amounts of cash isn't "romantic."
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