FC/OT: 2023 Recruit reportedly signs record $8mm NIL deal….

laKavosiey-st lion

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What romance was that? It was romantic when institutions and coaches, and arena operators, and nearby business owners, and tv networks, and recruiting services were stuffing their pockets with gobs of money based off the successes or failures of a bunch of 17-22 year olds, many of whom were going to school solely for the chance to play a sport ... and each decision to change the makeup of the recruiting process/sport was meant to drive more money into those pockets ... but now that those kids have a chance to get a little bit of that money ... all of a sudden, the "romance" is dead? Exploiting kids and young adults for massive amounts of cash isn't "romantic."
I get this but picking a school cause you love the campus, moms is a grad, it’s close to home so dad can come to home games. These romantic things are now replaced by amateurs getting salaries. But you’re pro kid, good for you. I am (was) pro my school.

Perhaps they should implement an across the board pay structure so money doesn’t become the ultimate motivation. Like a salary cap.
 

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What's interesting here is that when NIL was first being discussed, it was more about a college superstar being able to cash in with a private company (like Nike, or Coke, or BMW) - like what Quinn Ewers did. I think the whole 'crowd sourced' collective - very closely tied to schools - has thrown a wrench into the whole thing and the NCAA has no interest in ending back up in court and schools are now in a not-so-transparent arms race and are blurring the lines between recruiting and NIL deals. I think it's terrific entertainment though and hope this leads to some kind of reform in CFB that further separates the have/have nots. Go to a 32 team league with the big money teams and let them pay players outright. Everyone else can play four figure NIL deals with The Student Bookstore and scholarships.
The NCAA, like the rest of us, likely understood that opening the doors to NIL and paid sponsorship deals meant that crap like this would be ungovernable and that it would impact recruiting, pay for play, etc. Everyone but the most naïve knew that schools, players, coaches and boosters would exploit every conceivable loophole. That's likely why the NCAA fought it for as long as they did. But in the end the courts forced them to give up and here we are.
 

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If this is true I am done with college sports, at least at the D1 level. Why donate to a facility funding drive, an alumni fan club, or any other sports related initiative? It would be like writing a check to GM, Boeing, or the Pittsburgh Steelers. I might like their product, but let them do their own financing.
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Unnamed but the only guy I can think of that would be in that realm would be the Manning kid. Yea like he needs the money.:rolleyes:
College football is dead as we know it. I will miss it.

It’s the California QB and Tennessee. This news broke after his three day visit to the school. Their collective was interviewed recently and they mentioned how they’re looking to raise 20-30mm a year for NIL contracts.

His contract was reviewed and vetted by a well known attorney (not an agent) and he said a lot of NIL deals are such that players are likely to end up with little to nothing if things don’t go as planned.
 

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Unnamed but the only guy I can think of that would be in that realm would be the Manning kid. Yea like he needs the money.:rolleyes:
College football is dead as we know it. I will miss it.
Was saying the same thing at the gym this morning. I am waiting for a bunch of big money alums to go to the powers that be at a Univ. and say, "Look, we are willing to pony up alot of $$$$, but you gotta bring in another coach...."
 

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Was saying the same thing at the gym this morning. I am waiting for a bunch of big money alums to go to the powers that be at a Univ. and say, "Look, we are willing to pony up alot of $$$$, but you gotta bring in another coach...."

You don't think that already happens all the time ?
 
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I get this but picking a school cause you love the campus, moms is a grad, it’s close to home so dad can come to home games. These romantic things are now replaced by amateurs getting salaries. But you’re pro kid, good for you. I am (was) pro my school.

Perhaps they should implement an across the board pay structure so money doesn’t become the ultimate motivation. Like a salary cap.
I'm pro equality. The schools (and everyone else who has their hand in the proverbial cookie jar) have been doing everything they can to profit off these kids, and trying to exclude those doing all the work from taking a cookie in the process. That's not "romantic" in the least. It's abusive.

As I've said before, I'm one of the few actually in favor of REAL amateurism. Stripping away all the pomp and circumstance ... and money-driven nonsense. Kids apply to school ... for an education ... and get accepted, based on grades and other activities, blind to their athletics. And only then can coaches and others start picking away at them with their salesmanship.
 

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I'm pro equality. The schools (and everyone else who has their hand in the proverbial cookie jar) have been doing everything they can to profit off these kids, and trying to exclude those doing all the work from taking a cookie in the process. That's not "romantic" in the least. It's abusive.

As I've said before, I'm one of the few actually in favor of REAL amateurism. Stripping away all the pomp and circumstance ... and money-driven nonsense. Kids apply to school ... for an education ... and get accepted, based on grades and other activities, blind to their athletics. And only then can coaches and others start picking away at them with their salesmanship.
Wut? Super weird rant bro.
 

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What romance was that? It was romantic when institutions and coaches, and arena operators, and nearby business owners, and tv networks, and recruiting services were stuffing their pockets with gobs of money based off the successes or failures of a bunch of 17-22 year olds, many of whom were going to school solely for the chance to play a sport ... and each decision to change the makeup of the recruiting process/sport was meant to drive more money into those pockets ... but now that those kids have a chance to get a little bit of that money ... all of a sudden, the "romance" is dead? Exploiting kids and young adults for massive amounts of cash isn't "romantic."
If some rich dude wants to pay a kid, so be it. If people don't like it, they don't have to pay ridiculous fees and ticket prices or watch it on tv. At the end of the day, it is still your choice. It stopped being amateur sport some time ago with coaches and others making more than the professional coaches. Just turn it into a semi-pro developmental league and be honest about it.
 

laKavosiey-st lion

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If some rich dude wants to pay a kid, so be it. If people don't like it, they don't have to pay ridiculous fees and ticket prices or watch it on tv. At the end of the day, it is still your choice. It stopped being amateur sport some time ago with coaches and others making more than the professional coaches. Just turn it into a semi-pro developmental league and be honest about it.
Romance is gone.
 

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The NCAA, like the rest of us, likely understood that opening the doors to NIL and paid sponsorship deals meant that crap like this would be ungovernable and that it would impact recruiting, pay for play, etc. Everyone but the most naïve knew that schools, players, coaches and boosters would exploit every conceivable loophole. That's likely why the NCAA fought it for as long as they did. But in the end the courts forced them to give up and here we are.

Here is a summary of the Alston case that was decided by the Supreme Court. It is significantly more narrow than what is being portrayed. The modified rules around NIL came out from the NCAA (with the university Presidents' approval) AFTER this decision. Any type of crowd fund model that would induce violates those rules. So far we have seen some schools being investigated, but not seen any enforcement. It would appear that if the college Presidents want this that the NCAA will enforce those rules. On the surface it does not look like anyone wants to enforce any rules. However, there has not been a case where a player with a player with a big NIL deal becomes ineligible under NCAA rules or is moved to 2nd string by a coach. Ewers in fact did not become the tOSU starter, but if he stayed and wound up behind the whole group, would he have had a legal case against Ryan Day? If we get a case like this to the Supreme Court, it would be very hard to see the athlete winning. Limiting NCAA rights around anti-trust is not the same as limiting their right to punish a school for a rule violation, or limiting the right of an athlete to play who may have violated a rule (academic, PED's, etc).

 
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Moogy

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Not up front. "I will be willing to give 50k a year to every OL on the roster, as soon as there is another HC in here."
They already do it in their donations to the university ... they call the shots. If they want someone gone, it'll happen. If they want someone in, it'll happen. You're just suggesting a different donee (the one people actually want to watch play), not a different system, which is already in place.
 
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