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PSU87 said:
This will probably go off the rails quickly....

With an issue that can't be fair to everyone, you have to be fair to the most people possible.... and this is.
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I am a girl (and boy) dad. I am sympathetic to those who find themselves at odds with this ruling, but am not smart enough to find an equitable way to fix it.
 
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I'm all for law abiding citizens living their lives as they see fit. Gay? More power to you. Transvestite? Go for it. And if someone feels trapped in the wrong body, they should be able to find their own way to lead their best life as long as it doesn't affect someone else's freedom to live their own lives as they see fit. But biological males competing in female sports does exactly that. It deprives biological females of the opportunity for fair competition.
 
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Hats off to Riley Gaines. She was affected, and she politely and intelligently voiced her opinion on this matter over the years. She had a lot to do with this sudden dose of common sense.

 
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EricStratton-RushChairman said:
When it comes to the "trans" topic, my thoughts are, "I don't what to see it, I don't want to pay for it, and I don't want you competeing in sports against my granddaughters... otherwise I don't care if you identify as a ham sandwich"
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I hear the ham sandwich affirming surgery is particularly painful..........
 
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Midnighter said:
I am a girl (and boy) dad. I am sympathetic to those who find themselves at odds with this ruling, but am not smart enough to find an equitable way to fix it.
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Unfortunately, it's a really complex issue with no easy solutions (well, no easy solutions if you're worried about the trans-community). I agree that there appears to be a competitive advantage so it's really complex when it's taking away opportunities from others such as a college scholarship...at the same time, it really unfortunate for the trans youth that is shunned from playing youth sports and/or experiencing all that others can experience in life, especially when it's a group that's already dealing with high risks of suicide, isolation, etc.
 
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Erial_Lion said:
Unfortunately, it's a really complex issue with no easy solutions (well, no easy solutions if you're worried about the trans-community). I agree that there appears to be a competitive advantage so it's really complex when it's taking away opportunities from others such as a college scholarship...at the same time, it really unfortunate for the trans youth that is shunned from playing youth sports and/or experiencing all that others can experience in life, especially when it's a group that's already dealing with high risks of suicide, isolation, etc.
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There are no perfect solutions. But at a bare minimum, everyone ought to be able to agree that young women should not be forced to view male genitals in a locker room.
 
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EPC FAN said:
All ten of them?
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Actually you are not too far off

Research has determined there may be a total of 100 trans athletes in college sports. That accounts for less than 0.02% (roughly) of all NCAA athletes across the different divisions.

This whole thing is a colossal waste of time and energy not just by the NCAA but by legislators and others who have taken an infinitesimally small issue and exploded it into a crisis that... really doesn't exist.
 
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psuro said:
Actually you are not too far off

Research has determined there may be a total of 100 trans athletes in college sports. That accounts for less than 0.02% (roughly) of all NCAA athletes across the different divisions.

This whole thing is a colossal waste of time and energy not just by the NCAA but by legislators and others who have taken an infinitesimally small issue and exploded it into a crisis that... really doesn't exist.
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I agree, but it matters to girls who lose to this very small minority of athletes. I’d never allow my daughter to care that much about winning or losing but it is unfair biologically.
 
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psuro said:
Actually you are not too far off

Research has determined there may be a total of 100 trans athletes in college sports. That accounts for less than 0.02% (roughly) of all NCAA athletes across the different divisions.

This whole thing is a colossal waste of time and energy not just by the NCAA but by legislators and others who have taken an infinitesimally small issue and exploded it into a crisis that... really doesn't exist.
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A lot of time/$ has been spent on these types of issues in the past (Casey Martin, Oscar Pistorius, etc), and I’m sure it will continue into the future as nuances arise.
 
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psuro said:
Actually you are not too far off

Research has determined there may be a total of 100 trans athletes in college sports. That accounts for less than 0.02% (roughly) of all NCAA athletes across the different divisions.

This whole thing is a colossal waste of time and energy not just by the NCAA but by legislators and others who have taken an infinitesimally small issue and exploded it into a crisis that... really doesn't exist.
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psuro said:
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It only exists as a wedge issue, the politician's favorite thing.
 
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Indian rocks rich said:
She was born a girl she can play girl sports born a guy play guy sports. Don’t understand why it’s so difficult. But I’m 60 so something happened in the past 20 or so years that I missed.
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I can assure you that a girl transitioning to a guy won’t be playing girl’s sports, based on testosterone levels.
 
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NittPicker said:
I'm all for law abiding citizens living their lives as they see fit. Gay? More power to you. Transvestite? Go for it. And if someone feels trapped in the wrong body, they should be able to find their own way to lead their best life as long as it doesn't affect someone else's freedom to live their own lives as they see fit. But biological males competing in female sports does exactly that. It deprives biological females of the opportunity for fair competition.
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MO that was very well said.
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Erial_Lion said:
Unfortunately, it's a really complex issue with no easy solutions (well, no easy solutions if you're worried about the trans-community). I agree that there appears to be a competitive advantage so it's really complex when it's taking away opportunities from others such as a college scholarship...at the same time, it really unfortunate for the trans youth that is shunned from playing youth sports and/or experiencing all that others can experience in life, especially when it's a group that's already dealing with high risks of suicide, isolation, etc.
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I'm not certain it's that complex. The trans youth is still welcome to participate among those who share the gender they were born with. They just can't participate against those born as women who they'll have an advantage over. Same for women transititioning that receive and advantage due to heightened testosterone.
 
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psuro said:
Actually you are not too far off

Research has determined there may be a total of 100 trans athletes in college sports. That accounts for less than 0.02% (roughly) of all NCAA athletes across the different divisions.

This whole thing is a colossal waste of time and energy not just by the NCAA but by legislators and others who have taken an infinitesimally small issue and exploded it into a crisis that... really doesn't exist.
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A single tragic event isn't much of a crisis, unless it's happening to you. I have no idea if 100 is accurate or not, but even assuming it is, why should we be allowing even a single one of our girls to lose their opportunity to fairly compete?

You also can't view this in a vaccuum and claim it's overblown, as though the sole reason this is being treated as a "crisis" is becuase of 100 athletes, when it's obviously just a part of a much larger, broader-reaching issue (i.e., use of public bathrooms, prison assignment, etc).
 
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