as someone pointed out, the apartment isn’t in the borough.
it might be the the towing company rule for all I know, it’s noted in the article.
Then it's in what, College Township? They have the same ordinance as State College (but probably a cheaper drop fee). Driver wanted the full payment for lazy work; hope Carter lawyers up - the tow truck driver's attempt to enter the vehicle and continue to try to tow it violates any attempt at a reasonable accommodation on his part IMO after Carter said he would pay the drop fee. Nothing compels him to provide his name and address.
§ 190-38Restrictions upon removal of vehicles.
No vehicle shall be removed under the authority of this article if, at the time of the intended removal thereof, the owner or person for the time being in charge of such vehicle is present and expresses a willingness and intention to remove such vehicle immediately.
Drop fee: $65.
(7) No vehicle shall be removed under the authority of this section if, at the time of the intended removal, the owner or custodian of the vehicle is present and expresses a willingness and intention to remove the vehicle immediately. In these instances, the towing company shall charge no more than $65 from the time the wrecker is backed up to the vehicle to be towed to the point that the wrecker is in the motion of towing the vehicle away. The towing company shall make reasonable accommodations to permit the owner/custodian to obtain payment for the fee charged. Once the wrecker is in motion with the vehicle, the towing company is entitled to the full towing fee listed in this section. This is not applicable where the vehicle has been immobilized by College Township request for failure to pay accumulated fines and such fines remain unpaid.
So you’re saying he parked legally and they towed him, got itI checked out this place Aspen - it's way the f*ck off campus. Further away than I used to live when I was on University Drive. It's brand new, and has 651 tenants. The pics show an absolute sh*t ton of parking available, unlike my apartment that had 'first come, first served' parking passes for around half the tenants in our building. I had to park up against a dumpster half the time. Aspen doesn't say how many visitor parking spots it has, but I would think a good bit - it's a massive place (like State College Park when I lived there) with a ton of parking. I mean, not even downtown State College??? Jesus. I'd like to know if someone called the tow truck company to report the parking violation, or if the tow truck company was doing late night drive by's looking for easy cash.
So you’re saying he parked legally and they towed him, got it
Something should be done to protect students from this stuff. It’s been going on too long. Towing in State College is a notoriously abusive practice. In the 80s, I went to get my car after it was towed and felt like I was in a scene from Deliverance. Seriously.as someone pointed out, the apartment isn’t in the borough.
it might be the the towing company rule for all I know, it’s noted in the article.
Something should be done to protect students from this stuff. It’s been going on too long. Towing in State College is a notoriously abusive practice. In the 80s, I went to get my car after it was towed and felt like I was in a scene from Deliverance. Seriously.
He was also made team captain following that incident.Last year Theo Johnson punched a frat dude in the face and gave him a concussion. ARD & community service no game suspensions.
I remember that. There was this incident also. If I remember correctly, Bowman got into a fight in the middle of The HUB. Quarless with the inexcusable DUI.![]()
Six Penn State Players Charged over Off-Campus Fight
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) - Six Penn State football players, including stars Anthony Scirrotto and Justin King, turned themselves in Friday to face charges that they barged into a party at an off-campuswww.cleveland19.com
At least it seems to pale in comparison to this debacle. Anyone remember this?
I don’t have sufficient or accurate information to judge the tow truck driver or Abdul Carter for what allegedly transpired, but I do know James Franklin has huuuge problems on his hands
He hired Tom Allen.![]()
Carter went back inside to get money to pay a drop fee, but, he told police, he wanted to be sure his car wasn’t being stolen, and when he returned to the vehicle he questioned the driver about his authority to tow. The driver informed him that Halfmoon has a contract to enforce parking violations at the complex, and that Carter would need to provide a name and address for the car to be released.Seems like the driver didn’t adequately provide reasonable allowance for Carter to pay the drop fee which he is provided - by law - to do if the car is not moved. When the driver refused to allow him to pay, his continued attempts to hook up and tow were wrongful and unlawful. Carter is protecting his property at that point. Seems cut and dry. The resulting assault is protection of property damage.
You think this would deter a team from drafting him? It’s the NFL. They don’t care. If he has a good season, he’s potentially a top 15 pick regardless.They should wheel a TV into his jail cell tonite and let him watch the Draft…. “This could have been you next year!” WTF! Just call Blaise Alexander and have them give you another car!!
Is the tire iron that the tow truck driver supposedly pulled out considered brandishing a weapon? It should, right? As I said, if he does that to the wrong guy, he’ll probably not make out too well.Best he can hope for is charges stopped but the fact that he didn’t brandish a weapon of any type makes me think this will plead out
Carter went back inside to get money to pay a drop fee, but, he told police, he wanted to be sure his car wasn’t being stolen, and when he returned to the vehicle he questioned the driver about his authority to tow. The driver informed him that Halfmoon has a contract to enforce parking violations at the complex, and that Carter would need to provide a name and address for the car to be released.
After Carter refused to provide the information, police wrote, the driver resumed the process of hooking up the car for towing. As the driver returned to the tow truck, Carter told him he was going to call 911 and used his forearm to block the driver from getting inside.
not sure you see where u see he wasn’t given a chance to pay. he refused to cooperate. driver did nothing wrong here.
Easy call for a judge. A and B.
Pretty sure everyone can agree (except frat dudes), that frat dudes deserve to get punched in the face at least once daily. Case dismissed. The concussion is just a bonus.Last year Theo Johnson punched a frat dude in the face and gave him a concussion. ARD & community service no game suspensions.
It could have been in the towing contract between the towing company and the apartment complex. It need not be expressly required by law. Whether that information-gathering is explicitly prohibited by law, I don't know (just as I don't know if it was part of the contract), but this is speculation based on incomplete facts.Why does he have to provide his name and address for his car to be released? Carter should have held fast until the police arrived. Nothing I’ve seen anywhere says anyone has to show or provide a name and address to pay a drop fee. Easy call for any judge with sense - predatory driver/business looking for an easy pay day got called on it and continued to try to steal personal property. What proof did the driver provide that he had authority there? Because he said so? With a car like Carter’s I’d be suspicious too. Lock up the driver IMO.
Barry, do you have a link to the video? I went back through this thread and i don’t think I saw a link but could have missed it.Has anyone here even watched the video?
It might be time to stop contorting alibies for A Carter.![]()
Has anyone here even watched the video?
It might be time to stop contorting alibies for A Carter.![]()
Why does he have to provide his name and address for his car to be released? Carter should have held fast until the police arrived. Nothing I’ve seen anywhere says anyone has to show or provide a name and address to pay a drop fee. Easy call for any judge with sense - predatory driver/business looking for an easy pay day got called on it and continued to try to steal personal property. What proof did the driver provide that he had authority there? Because he said so? With a car like Carter’s I’d be suspicious too. Lock up the driver IMO.
One monster sack will make everyone forget This.![]()
This is good information to know.Nothing in State College Private/Public Towing Ordinance that says he has to provide his name or address when paying a drop fee. I may have missed it, but here is what I found about drop fees in the Ordinance:
No vehicle shall be removed under the authority of this ordinance if, at the time of the intended removal, the owner or custodian of the vehicle is present and expresses a willingness and intention to remove the vehicle immediately.
(a) In these instances, the towing company shall charge no more than the drop fee from the time the wrecker is backed up to the vehicle to be towed to the point that the wrecker is in motion towing the vehicle away. The towing company shall make reasonable accommodations to permit the owner/custodian to obtain payment for the fee charged.
(b) Once the wrecker is in motion with the towed vehicle, the towing company is entitled to the full towing fee listed in § 11-710a. This is not applicable where the vehicle has been immobilized by Borough request for failure to pay accumulated fines and such fines remain unpaid.
According to the story, the car was not fully hooked up or in motion when Carter confronted the tow truck driver. It was only after the tow truck driver asked for name and address, which Carter refused and then proceeded to block the door from the tow truck driver, that the driver went after a metal/crowbar. Sounds like tow truck driver was not providing reasonable accommodation to pay the drop fee IMO. Carter should sue him and the company.
Midnights, you are a hoot on this topic. I f n hate the towing companies in SC. The complexes in many cases are just as bad or worse. They give them access to tow at will anytime they line if they see a vehicle without proper permit. No warnings, etc
All that being said, not sure how you are acting like Carter is in the right or victim here. You displayed very pore maturity and judgement. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
It's super easy to play the moral superiority card online, but this isn't a huge deal. He'll pay his fines, do some community service or whatever and life will go on. He isn't missing tons of action next year due to this and life will go on, but people want to harp on this like somehow this is a big deal. Young man screwed up, got caught, will have some consequences and hopefully learns from it. That being said some folks apparently have a legit beef with the tow truck companies which is fine too.Midnights, you are a hoot on this topic. I f n hate the towing companies in SC. The complexes in many cases are just as bad or worse. They give them access to tow at will anytime they line if they see a vehicle without proper permit. No warnings, etc
All that being said, not sure how you are acting like Carter is in the right or victim here. You displayed very pore maturity and judgement. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Why would someone target him? It doesn't make sense.He’s being targeted; those companies can f*ck right off a cliff.
absent any of the threatening conduct byIs the tire iron that the tow truck driver supposedly pulled out considered brandishing a weapon? It should, right? As I said, if he does that to the wrong guy, he’ll probably not make out too well.
absent carters conduct prior thereto it likely would be.Is the tire iron that the tow truck driver supposedly pulled out considered brandishing a weapon? It should, right? As I said, if he does that to the wrong guy, he’ll probably not make out too well.
aren’t you a lawyer or am i confusing you with someone else?Why does he have to provide his name and address for his car to be released? Carter should have held fast until the police arrived. Nothing I’ve seen anywhere says anyone has to show or provide a name and address to pay a drop fee. Easy call for any judge with sense - predatory driver/business looking for an easy pay day got called on it and continued to try to steal personal property. What proof did the driver provide that he had authority there? Because he said so? With a car like Carter’s I’d be suspicious too. Lock up the driver IMO.
I don't like Amazon- can I assault one of their drivers?
Moms the pit bull and me chill on the back deck and 3 times a shady as F Amazon dude rolls into our back yard. I walk them back to the driveway and tell him I’m uncool with him behind my house. YOI don't like Amazon- can I assault one of their drivers?
towing an illegally parked car isn't "stealing" itIf they pull out a crowbar while trying to steal your stuff, sure!
Moms the pit bull and me chill on the back deck and 3 times a shady as F Amazon dude rolls into our back yard. I walk them back to the driveway and tell him I’m uncool with him behind my house. YO
sadly the pit bull looks scary but conducts herself like a lab
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Yup. Walked right by the garage. Wtaf he gotta come out back on the uber private 1.5 acres? What if moms is in the hot tub and I’m out (this is why we gun)Is he actually delivering anything?
What's wrong with towing cars are that parked without a valid permit?Midnights, you are a hoot on this topic. I f n hate the towing companies in SC. The complexes in many cases are just as bad or worse. They give them access to tow at will anytime they line if they see a vehicle without proper permit. No warnings, etc
All that being said, not sure how you are acting like Carter is in the right or victim here. You displayed very pore maturity and judgement. Two wrongs don’t make a right.