FC: Sandusky attorney Edward J. Rymsza files federal appeal seeking new trial

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I'm not an attorney either and have no idea if the latest arguments will go anywhere. However, I do recall how the court was dead set on ramrodding the case through the system which was odd considering how lesser charges are often granted numerous continuances. I also recall people familiar with local SC attorneys posting here that Amendola was hardly qualified to handle such a case.
 

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So I guess that not insubstantial pension that The Grinning Baboon gets from the state goes to pay his lawyers for these endless appeals.
 

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On the surface, the ineffective counsel argument seems pretty strong. I'm not an attorney though.
Oh, it not only on the the surface. Every fiber of Amendola's approach and woefully inadequate and ineffective, as evidenced by his request to be removed from the case. Meanwhile, the prosecution was maaking a mockery of the legal system throughout the trial.
 

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I did not read the article but the ineffective counsel argument is not going to fly. That argument is far too vague in a case like this. IMO a far better argument is the timing of the case and that he (the lawyer) was not afforded the time required to present a vigorous defense. That one will not fly either but it is a better argument. His only chance right now would be if new evidence is found, such as witnesses saying they lied. Information such as that, which clearly challenges the evidence presented, is what is needed. Absent something that dramatic, there is no chance of the conviction being overturned.
 

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Oh, it not only on the the surface. Every fiber of Amendola's approach and woefully inadequate and ineffective, as evidenced by his request to be removed from the case. Meanwhile, the prosecution was maaking a mockery of the legal system throughout the trial.

Yeah I finally listened to all…. 50+ hours?? of the WTBOH podcast and came away with the thought that while I still am woefully inadequately informed on the inner workings of this trial, the one thing that’s clear as day was the gross miscarriage of justice. And I don’t mean he’s innocent. I have no idea, and that’s the problem. From ineffective council to the agenda being pushed from the top, to heresay testimony to leaks galore. The whole thing stinks and needs to be properly and adequately tried. I don’t care the outcome but it needs to be an accurate and fair outcome based on EVIDENCE.
 

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So I guess that not insubstantial pension that The Grinning Baboon gets from the state goes to pay his lawyers for these endless appeals.
No, several lettermen headed up by a friend of Jerry's who played with him are passing the hat.
 

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Oh, it not only on the the surface. Every fiber of Amendola's approach and woefully inadequate and ineffective, as evidenced by his request to be removed from the case. Meanwhile, the prosecution was maaking a mockery of the legal system throughout the trial.
How did Spanier's foray into the Federal courts turn out?
 

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Yeah I finally listened to all…. 50+ hours?? of the WTBOH podcast and came away with the thought that while I still am woefully inadequately informed on the inner workings of this trial, the one thing that’s clear as day was the gross miscarriage of justice. And I don’t mean he’s innocent. I have no idea, and that’s the problem. From ineffective council to the agenda being pushed from the top, to heresay testimony to leaks galore. The whole thing stinks and needs to be properly and adequately tried. I don’t care the outcome but it needs to be an accurate and fair outcome based on EVIDENCE.
I've listened to most of it and I find it to be more along the lines of the JFK assassination and Area 51 conspiracy theories. Lots of speculation by Ziegler without much evidence to support it.
 

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I did not read the article but the ineffective counsel argument is not going to fly. That argument is far too vague in a case like this. IMO a far better argument is the timing of the case and that he (the lawyer) was not afforded the time required to present a vigorous defense. That one will not fly either but it is a better argument. His only chance right now would be if new evidence is found, such as witnesses saying they lied. Information such as that, which clearly challenges the evidence presented, is what is needed. Absent something that dramatic, there is no chance of the conviction being overturned.
It's a Hail Mary funded by lettermen. The COTUS says speedy trial and Jerry got one. Mostly because the courts ain't too busy in Bellefonte.
 

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I've listened to most of it and I find it to be more along the lines of the JFK assassination and Area 51 conspiracy theories. Lots of speculation by Ziegler without much evidence to support it.

I can see someone thinking that. Ziegler is incredibly boisterous about the whole thing, to the point where he’s divisive. I had to walk myself off the ledge of wanting to punch him in his mouth multiple times, before I could ingest what he was saying. Absolutely there’s some speculation and inferences by him, but there’s a lot of evidence too. Guess it just depends on what you go into the podcast thinking.
 
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I think that what a lot of people believe is a fair trial is shaped by watching too many crime dramas. I say that from the perspective of serving on more juries than I care to remember. Often, I'd ask myself "why didn't the lawyer ask this" or "why didn't he challenge that?" Doesn't seem to work that way. And jury deliberations? Don't get me started.
 
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Yeah I finally listened to all…. 50+ hours?? of the WTBOH podcast and came away with the thought that while I still am woefully inadequately informed on the inner workings of this trial, the one thing that’s clear as day was the gross miscarriage of justice. And I don’t mean he’s innocent. I have no idea, and that’s the problem. From ineffective council to the agenda being pushed from the top, to heresay testimony to leaks galore. The whole thing stinks and needs to be properly and adequately tried. I don’t care the outcome but it needs to be an accurate and fair outcome based on EVIDENCE.
The Commonwealth of Pa. would be better served if they could elect (Attorney General(s) that aren't running for governor their entire term in office.
 

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The Commonwealth of Pa. would be better served if they could elect (Attorney General(s) that aren't running for governor their entire term in office.
And I believe Shapiro is aiming even higher. If he wins the governorship, he'll be trying to position himself for a presidential run if/when the time is right.
 
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And I believe Shapiro is aiming even higher. If he wins the governorship, he'll be trying to position himself for a presidential run if/when the time is right.
Hopefully, I'll check out before that occurs. The past 2 administrations make me anxious to move on.
 
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