Hack's skill set didn't translate to the offense that Franklin tried to run in 15. Hack worked real well for what O'Brien wanted to do. McSorley came in and was able to excel because he was able to escape the constant trouble the bad o-line put him in. Plus, Trace was the type of QB that Franklin wanted for his offense at the time -- someone mobile that wasn't afraid to take hits vs a QB in Hack who was the classic dropback passer. Regardless of what you think of the organization who drafted him, a player who gets taken in the 2nd round of the NFL draft is not a bust at the college level. Did Hack disappoint in 2015? No doubt.
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Talk about not being serious, you actually posted Hack would have won a National Championship at Alabama. Come on man.
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Jake Coker won one at Bama. Again, you’re not serious.
Objective folks know Hack didn’t live up to the hype and they also know a big part of it was sanctions and the impact of OB leaving him high and dry (stunted his development). You are spot on though others have agendas here…
No agenda. You started the post. If you didn’t want others opinions, you shouldn’t have started the post.
Thank you for sharing your opinion in a cordial and professional manner. I really appreciate the dialogue and always welcome opposing views unlike some posters.
I agree with your assessment of McSorley and him being a better fit for coach Franklin’s style of offense.
However, your logic linking draft position to whether or not a player was a bust at the collegiate level, is very faulty and illogical. You are basically saying no matter how poorly a player performs at the collegiate level, he can’t ever be called a bust at the collegiate level if he was drafted by the NFL. This makes no sense to me.
The college bust label applies only to expectations vs. actual performance at the collegiate level. It has nothing to do with the future draft status of a player. Some NFL teams make mistakes in drafting players and sometimes a player may mature and develop later under a different system. As an example, the fact that Hack was a bust in the NFL (there are numerous NFL articles written on this), has nothing to do with his collegiate performance at Penn State.
Why would he need a pass? He had back to back winning records with a sanction riddled team that was left for dead…he should get praise not a pass.
He only did poorly in comparison to your expectations which were obviously very unrealistic for where the program was at.
Same could be said for Hack. Rare to see that kind of ’own goal’ on here. Nice!
Off to Europe for two weeks - try not to burn the place down.
I give Hackenberg a pass. He came on board when the building was on fire. Credit to him, at least gave us some hope. He also was running for his life on most plays.
Biggest Recruit Ever…Qunitus McDonald
One that got away…Marvin Harrison Jr.
One that thankfully got away…Dan Kendra
Would take a dozen of him…Ray Isom
One that got away…Marvin Harrison Jr.
One that thankfully got away…Dan Kendra
Would take a dozen of him…Ray Isom
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That’s true, that’s why I don’t consider Hack to be a huge bust…I just think he was overrated.
I think the biggest one who got away was Chad Henne. I think he was the missing link for runs at a MNC in 2005-2007.
Hack came in as a 5-star, which I've always been dubious about all of these recruiting rankings anyway (Justin Shorter was a 5-star and we see how well that worked out for him). So that automatically places expectations on the kid. Was he a 5-star QB in college? Hell no. Could he have been had he had an Ohio State offensive line in front of him? He very well could have been. He was a 5-star coming in to a 2-star situation with a coach brand new to college football. However, that coach had a system that worked great for Hack's skill set and he did well enough in it. You're ascribing bust because of that 5-star ranking. I'm not sure that a QB who is a college bust throws for almost 8500 yards in 38 games. If the Jets thought he was a bust, there's no way they take him in the 2nd round. Because he flamed out so quickly at the pro level, the bust label is justified...at the NFL level.
Tim Couch, Chris Simms, Ron Powlus, Jimmy Clausen, Ronald Curry - all five stars with varying degrees of college success. Remember Ryan Burns? He was the other QB high on our list when OB took over. He played all of 23 games at Stanford and managed to throw for 1,200 yards total. We did OK with Hack.
I can’t agree with Parsons at all. He was just starting to become great when his Penn State career ended. I assume we’re just talking about their time at Penn State, not NFL right?
Marvin Harrison was never coming to Penn State.
I say Fields or Christian Wilkins.
Land Christian Wilkins and the '16 and '17 teams are title contenders.
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