For the old farts on the board....bringing back the athletic dorm

[Big Sheep81]

would solve most of the behavior problems with player. It would also help with this "stipend" issue. All athletes in a dorm with meals provided, laundry, etc. would help coach's supervise player conduct, study, and class attendance.

Personally, I think doing away with the dorm and athletic table started this spiral downward in behavior among many other things. You cannot bring Marines to boot camp at Paris Island and tell them to be on base at 0600 ready to work out but send them off base to find a place to live for 16 weeks. Keeping them in one place helps with discipline and team building. The NCAA made one of the stupidest decisions ever by eliminating athletic dorms.

What say you?

 

[therightway]

How does it work. Do they just give these kids the money each month and they are supposed to pay the rent?

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

...

 

[Big Sheep81]

Athletes were assigned a room and roommate. Meals were provided in the dorm (training table it was called) and laundry room available. All male athletes were in one dorm and female in another (if there were enough). Title IX would dictate a co-ed dorm I am sure.

 

[hullabaloodog]

I believe they are given a check (more than likely a direct deposit into the bank account) to pay for their off-campus housing up to a specified amount. So, if the guys go out and cash the check and blow it then it's on them.

 

[RocketCityDawg]

I thought it was a bad idea when they did away with them.
Wasn't that move driven by the NCAA?
Many bad notions are.

 

[Mjoelner]

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[futaba.79]

with the UF's, LSU's and Bama's of the world.

 

[Paper Dog]

Yes, it would cut down on trouble ... probably by more than 50 percent

However, I lived in the athletic dorm while at MSU ... We basically had a Motel 6, while Auburn had a Hilton

Auburn had master suites with washers dryers, fridges full of food and the ladies in a waiting room downstairs

In fact, Auburn and Texas are the main two reasons the athletic dorms were done away with

We do not want to be in an armed race over our dorms ... we have enough of a deficit to make up as is

By the way, our athletes still have a training table ... they eat together everyday in the Templeton Center

 

[thatsbaseball]

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[FQDawg]

The NCAA said schools couldn't have athlete-specific dorms anymore... Sometime in the mid-90's, I think. The rule is something along the lines of any building housing athletes has to also contain a certain percentage of students who are not athletes.

But, there are ways around it. UK has a place called the Cat's Lair (I think that's the name) that's pretty much just for basketball players and of course it's way nicer than any other student housing on their campus (or anywhere else I've seen). They get around the requirement by having a few rooms that are for basketball managers or student trainers and the like - basically fellow students who are already involved with the basketball program.

 

[The Peeper]

athletes in McArthur the night before homecoming in 1980 shooting skeet out of the back windows. They were throwing targets out of one window with one of those hand held target throwers and people in the windows on each side of the throwers window were shooting shotguns at them. Thats when there was nothing but a big open area with cedars back there (behind the parking lot), no soccer field.

 

[Big Sheep81]

and 80's. I recall the night of which you speak. Much wine and love flowed that evening.......

Coach 66 spent all his time at the Blue Hole.......

 

[boomboommsu]

If you're on academic scholly, you either live in the dorms for free, or you get nothing.

Not to say that you can't get more aid than tuition, and spend it on off-campus housing. But the check is the same whether you live on campus (for free) or off (for not free).

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

sure as hell didn't cover all my rent, but it was better than nothing.

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

in downstairs. At least most did anyway.
Heck girls werent even "allowed" in the rooms until 1985 and that was on a limited basis.
Whatever happened after bed check (10:00 pm) during the season usually took place off premises. Usually!

 

[hullabaloodog]

Even if they live in a dorm room it's not 'free.' The university has to cover that cost.

At the school where I work, either they live in the dorm and it's paid through their scholarship or they choose to live off-campus and that money that would have gone to a dorm is given to them via direct deposit as an off-campus housing stipend.

 

[coach66]

nor deny unless it was Echols. The meat dorm was legendary back in that day. If there had been the scrutiny on players then that there is today, especially regarding ganja then nobody could have fielded a team most Saturdays.

 

[boomboommsu]

the only year i lived in the dorms, they had overflow, so they just bumped someone else to McArther, even though it was condemned at that point because of asbestos.

the marginal cost of an extra resident was way below the charged cost, back then. that's why they were so unwilling to give the money as a stipend for off-campus housing. hell, i just wanted it for the frat house, which theyclaimed was on-campus housing........when it suited them. it pissed me off because they didn't say that myschollyincluded the dorms, they said it included 'housing'. it was a bait-and-switch. but that was typical of how MSU operated at the time.

it's probably not as stark a difference now, between marginal cost and charged cost, with the fancy new dorms kids get. </p>

 

[Big Sheep81]

NM

 

[coach66]

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