Please. You know as well as I do BYU & Clemson wouldn’t be any better than Vandy or Oklahoma if they played an SEC schedule. Bama also beat a playoff team this year. Who did SMU beat?
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bamas schedule drawfs any bubble team and half the teams that are for sure in.… and it blows smu out of the water. If your about wins… then why not army?
they have no wins. If you want to reward a team whose beaten no one.. and when had a chance to play a ranked teams lost both opportunitie… then ok.
bamas schedule drawfs any bubble team and half the teams that are for sure in.… and it blows smu out of the water. If your about wins… then why not army?
They paid millions to join a P4 and then went undefeated against the conference schedule they were given so far. What more do you want them to do? You’re saying, well even though they don’t have any control over making their schedule harder (they didn’t make FSU suck), they can’t lose a single conference game. Meanwhile, Bama can lose 3 without ever playing in a conference title or against Texas, the top team in the conference. I mean, why even allow SMU access if those are the rules?
SMU has every chance to make the playoffs. Just win. Doesn’t matter whose fault it is their schedule sucks. The fact is their schedule sucks. Heck Jackson St only has 2 losses & it’s not their fault their schedule sucks. But nobody’s clamoring for them to get in.
Bingo. They’re paying whatever doesn’t matter.
funny how much different the opinions on this board would be… had we been 9-3 and in Alabamas shoes.
Of course there is one small annoyance for Bama fans:
South Carolina beat Clemson….at Clemson.
I will say this. If Bama doesn’t get in, for whatever reason, I will have zero sympathy for them. Their resume is flawed too. I’d say the same thing to them I’d say to SMU or anyone else left out. You have only yourself to blame. Should have won one more game.
I’d say go back to the BCS computer system
Let the committee rank and that input goes in to BCS system and a percentage
then BCS system calculate 1 through whatever
after conference championship week, you take the conference champions who are autobids and then fill it out with highest ranked BCS teams that aren’t auto bids
4 byes go to highest ranked BCS
Perd is everything OK? It seems to me you’ve been uncharacteristically argumentative this week.
I’m not even saying you’re wrong, you have a good point in this thread (Right or wrong, SMU would definitely be punished for losing the extra game. I’m not convinced Georgia won’t be punished if they lose either- though almost certainly not enough to be left out).
Bump indeed. They completely went off the grid. Keeping SMU 6 spots ahead of Clemson in the final rankings….even though they just lost to them. Giving 2 bids to the 5th best conference. Pretty laughable, actually.
Apparently they no longer care about selecting the best teams any more in the new format. That’s fine, I guess?
“I was wrong, so they are stupid.”
like I said, you absolutely cannot punish a team for playing a title game. The committee did exactly what they telegraphed they would do.
Saban hit the nail 100% on the head (no surprise, there) in saying that the real issue is that SMU was ranked so highly *last week* when they had played a piss-poor schedule with no real A-level wins. The committee effectively boxed themselves into having to select SMU over Bama today because if they had selected Bama they would have had to basically kill conference title games as a thing in the future.
I would welcome a return to the BCS-type of rankings where strength of schedule becomes more appropriately considered through the inclusion of computer rankings in a formula instead of solely humans, who are prone to have to consider impacts (such as the $$$$ impacts of getting rid of conference champ games in the future) unrelated to putting the best teams into the playoff.
Ha. I had to. Its not fine at all but I felt like they sent that signal throughout the rankings each week and it’s just gonna be tough to punish P4s for losing title games.
Oh I was definitely wrong. I’ll eat crow on that one. Thought they would simply follow past behavior and points of emphasis, and they did not.
And I don’t know about “stupid” but I don’t think anyone could argue that they broke rank significantly from what they’ve done in the past. And its pretty hard to argue that where SMU and Clemson fell in the final rankings relative to each other makes very little sense.
It covers all the conferences. The only question is, are these the best 12 teams? Is it just a representation of the best 12 teams? I don't think so, but I just have my opinion like everybody else does.
i think Indiana can beat Notre Dame. The seeding is not done right, Boise and ASU shouldn’t be seeded that high, it should be seeded 1-12 based on rank just like basketball, not conference equity.
PSU gets SMU and Boise to advance, Tennessee gets Ohio State and Oregon. Lol
SMU at 10 and Clemson at 16 at the end is a little bit of a head scratcher.
I was actually fine with them being where they were in the rankings last week.
But the caveat there is they haven’t done anything to shoot themselves in the foot, but hadn’t done anything special, either. When they play only their 2nd game against a team with a pulse, then lose that one too, its a significant data point.
I mean if Bama hadn’t lost that OU game, then they lost to Texas in Atlanta, what happens? Does 11-2 SMU still get in over 10-3 Bama? I think probably not. It doesn’t seem like Bama’s resume would be much different than now, but they get a bump just because they won a convoluted tiebreaker in an unevenly scheduled conference. I also think if SMU loses by 2 TD’s, they’re out today.
I think people want concrete, absolute answers to things like “do the conference championships matter” and the answer is probably always going to be “it depends”. Not just on the game itself, the teams playing, or the outcome, but also on how the outcome comes about.
It's just like any other poll; it asks what the most popular pic of the week is. But I thought we were going by the entire season or body of work?
I get confused, like the rest of you. It's a good thing we have 12 teams now, so there won't be any controversy.
End of the day, I think if SMU and Clemson played 10 times, they go 5-5 against each other….and last night proved that. And remember, Clemson’s the 16th best team, according to the committee.
I think if SMU played Bama, South Carolina, or Ole Miss 10 times, they’d lose 7 or 8 times, minimum.
I think if SMU played Miami 10 times, they’d lose 6 or 7 times.
Yet here we are.
And really who cares who loses to Ohio State next weekend? Does it even matter?
It’s not a poll. It’s the final rankings of the committee. #15 ASU beats #16 Iowa State….they shoot up all the way to #10.
#17 Clemson beats #8 SMU, they only move up 1 spot to #16 fill the void left by Iowa State.
It’s nonsense.
Well I would think TV viewers care. And I’m not sure Ohio State even gets by Tennessee, TBH.
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