FR I found this to be very interesting- the tackle on Tony Pollard- NFL looking into it

[s1uggo72]

Competition Committee is expected to look at mechanics of tackle that injured Tony Pollard​

owboys running back Tony Pollard injured his ankle during the divisional round of the playoffs and the NFL is expected to look into the mechanics of the tackle that led to the injuries this offseason.

49ers cornerback Jimmie Ward grabbed Pollard from behind and then pulled the back down while dropping his own body to the turf. Pollard’s leg got trapped underneath, resulting in a high ankle sprain and fractured fibula. Pollard had surgery this week.
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yet this is the way tackling has been taught in the NFL as well as some colleges where they are trying to take the head out of the game. attached below is Petey describing how the Seahawks teach tackling, many teams in the NFL have followed suit as well as HS and colleges. If the NFL takes this out of the game, what happens next??

 

[Woodpecker]

If the NFL takes this out of the game, what happens next?

Preview on display at Pro Bowl

 

[BobPSU92]

Preview on display at Pro Bowl

Exactly. Flag Football. Skills competition.

 

[Paruffus]

Competition Committee is expected to look at mechanics of tackle that injured Tony Pollard​

owboys running back Tony Pollard injured his ankle during the divisional round of the playoffs and the NFL is expected to look into the mechanics of the tackle that led to the injuries this offseason.

49ers cornerback Jimmie Ward grabbed Pollard from behind and then pulled the back down while dropping his own body to the turf. Pollard’s leg got trapped underneath, resulting in a high ankle sprain and fractured fibula. Pollard had surgery this week.
www.profootballtalk.com

yet this is the way tackling has been taught in the NFL as well as some colleges where they are trying to take the head out of the game. attached below is Petey describing how the Seahawks teach tackling, many teams in the NFL have followed suit as well as HS and colleges. If the NFL takes this out of the game, what happens next??

"... what happens next??" Players will be wearing bubble suits!

 

[Bvillebaron]

Exactly. Flag Football. Skills competition.

Long time Cowboy fan, but this is ridiculous. Pollard got tackled and unfortunately got hurt. Geez.

 

[Moogy]

Competition Committee is expected to look at mechanics of tackle that injured Tony Pollard​

owboys running back Tony Pollard injured his ankle during the divisional round of the playoffs and the NFL is expected to look into the mechanics of the tackle that led to the injuries this offseason.

49ers cornerback Jimmie Ward grabbed Pollard from behind and then pulled the back down while dropping his own body to the turf. Pollard’s leg got trapped underneath, resulting in a high ankle sprain and fractured fibula. Pollard had surgery this week.
www.profootballtalk.com

yet this is the way tackling has been taught in the NFL as well as some colleges where they are trying to take the head out of the game. attached below is Petey describing how the Seahawks teach tackling, many teams in the NFL have followed suit as well as HS and colleges. If the NFL takes this out of the game, what happens next??

The tackle on Pollard had nothing to do with rugby-style tackling. It was a tackle from behind, the tackler pulled Pollard straight down and fell on his legs. A rugby-style tackle, in that situation (the hawk roll, specifically), would have seen the defender continue his momentum forward through the tackle, then rolling off to the side and spinning Pollard with him. The legs wouldn't have been trapped.

This tackle is more like a horse collar variant, to the lower half. Not sure how you ban it, however (i.e. determine what tackles are bad or clean).

 

[s1uggo72]

The tackle on Pollard had nothing to do with rugby-style tackling. It was a tackle from behind, the tackler pulled Pollard straight down and fell on his legs. A rugby-style tackle, in that situation (the hawk roll, specifically), would have seen the defender continue his momentum forward through the tackle, then rolling off to the side and spinning Pollard with him. The legs wouldn't have been trapped.

This tackle is more like a horse collar variant, to the lower half. Not sure how you ban it, however (i.e. determine what tackles are bad or clean).

IDK it looks like a Hawk roll tackle to me....

hawk roll tackle from the video


but I am sure you're right

 

[Moogy]

IDK it looks like a Hawk roll tackle to me....

hawk roll tackle from the video


but I am sure you're right

Watch the video of the tackle, and the instructional video and you'll see they're completely different. Yeah, when you roll, there's a moment in time when your body will be over the legs (and moments in time when the legs will be above your body, which is on the ground) ... but the Pollard tackle was from behind, and then he pulled Pollard's lower half straight down and fell on top. That's completely different than a hawk roll, which would see the tackler's momentum carry him more forward and to the side, with the tackler's body hitting the ground and the runner's legs rolling up on top of the tackler, not getting pinned beneath him.

The hawk roll ... especially from behind ... does have some safety concerns, but it's not this ... it's more that, if you're approaching from behind and you don't clear and roll enough, your body could land on a portion of the legs, then you do the roll (or, as you're rolling, your body comes down too soon and traps a portion of the leg/ankle/foot) and ... snap. But this wasn't that .. this was a tackler stopping his momentum, pulling the runner straight down, and then "falling" onto his legs.

 

[s1uggo72]

Watch the video of the tackle, and the instructional video and you'll see they're completely different. Yeah, when you roll, there's a moment in time when your body will be over the legs (and moments in time when the legs will be above your body, which is on the ground) ... but the Pollard tackle was from behind, and then he pulled Pollard's lower half straight down and fell on top. That's completely different than a hawk roll, which would see the tackler's momentum carry him more forward and to the side, with the tackler's body hitting the ground and the runner's legs rolling up on top of the tackler, not getting pinned beneath him.

The hawk roll ... especially from behind ... does have some safety concerns, but it's not this ... it's more that, if you're approaching from behind and you don't clear and roll enough, your body could land on a portion of the legs, then you do the roll (or, as you're rolling, your body comes down too soon and traps a portion of the leg/ankle/foot) and ... snap. But this wasn't that .. this was a tackler stopping his momentum, pulling the runner straight down, and then "falling" onto his legs.

ok you are probably right