I love the whole "I hate us" theme. We say it with love while other schools probably mean it.
Future looks very bright for Penn State football team
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I love your enthusiasm. I really do. Now, back to reality. If PSU does not have a legitimate deep threat and speed at WR, the team will be DOA. A one dimensional offense will never be able to consistently score 25-30 points per game.
MY is just o.k. as an offense coordinator. He will never be mistaken for Joe Moorhead.
Manny Diaz is the best PSU defense coordinator since Jerry Sandusky. LB will be a concern until the new freshmen studs can gain experience. Outside of Jacobs and Carter, there is no experienced top flight LB on the roster.
The season comes down to 2 games, Ohio State and Michigan. If coach Franklin fails to get past the only legitimate challengers on the schedule, the team will have not made any progress beyond another 3rd place BIG East division finish and mired to irrelevancy once again.
Why would LB be a concern? LB's played lights out the last third of the season once Carter took over at Will and Jacobs moved back to Sam, and King got some experience and was on the field more.
You're clueless. 10-2 is not irrelevant and would be a dream season for any school that you could graduate from.
Finishing in 3rd place without a BIG championship appearance and not even a sniff of being in the CFP is the definition of being irrelevant. In addition, zero wins against Ohio State and Michigan for the second consecutive year is a major disappointment. Not to mention zero wins against a ranked team. Beating up the likes of Indiana, Rutgers, and Maryland does not constitute a dream season.
Lastly, King is not a high quality difference making LB. He can’t cover in passing situations. PSU needs more difference makers like Carter to be competitive against the BIG 2. The incoming freshmen LBs are a good start but will need time to develop. Until they do, PSU still has a weakness at the Mike LB position.
Most schools would kill to be irrelevant like Penn State.
Currently, there are only 4 relevant teams in the CFP. They are Ohio State, Michigan, TCU, and Georgia. The national media will be focused on these teams. All other bowl games are basically irrelevant by comparison.
To be relevant you need to beat the big boy programs, win a conference championship or make the CFP.
Nope, winning 10 games does not equate to being irrelevant. Your "definitions" seem out of step with most PSU "fans".
King is talented and payed much better as he got more playing time / experience.at Mike. Not all difference makers are that the first time they step on the field. With the influx of LB talent in the last two classes there will be competition for every LB spot that will make them all perform at a higher level. We may even see Carter at Mike. LB play to close this season was better than it had been in years. Mike LB's are not called upon to do much in pass coverage.
You have it backwards. Most PSU fans are tired of being dominated by OSU and Michigan. Also, most PSU fans are dying to get to a BIG championship and the CFP. PSU fans are tired of seeing the BIG 2 dominate the narrative nationally.
Your thinking of focusing only on wins is very outdated. It has been ever since the BCS and CFP were created. The elite programs win conference championships and make the CFP. You may not like it, but that is where college football is at in the 21st century. The old days are just that, they are the old days. Time to focus on the current times which mean conference championships and the CFP.
In terms of Mike LB and passing coverage situations, you must have missed the Michigan State game where their coaches successfully schemed a play which isolated King in single coverage in the red zone. King was beaten badly for a TD. PSU can’t afford to have slow non-athletic LBs in passing situations. That is why the 2023 LB recruits all seem to have speed and are very athletic. I give Manny Diaz the credit for the current LB recruiting philosophy.
Minus those from here who would never take the time to watch a team that is irrelevant.......but pause to take the opportunity to discuss it here.And how many will hate us? All?
The 2022 CFP finale drew 22.6 million viewers and was the most watched non NFL event in the United States.
PSU needs to get to the CFP. Recruiting will explode if that happens next year. It’s CFP or irrelevancy. There are no trophies for finishing in 3rd place in the BIG East division.
PSU needs to get to the CFP. Recruiting will explode if that happens next year. It’s CFP or irrelevancy. There are no trophies for finishing in 3rd place in the BIG East division.
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The future is bright, and PSU is closer than most programs to breaking through, but the same problems persist:
1. Inability to recruit or develop an elite QB.
2. Inability to recruit or develop the interior defensive line.
3. Inability to recruit, develop, or assemble a dominant offensive line (including sufficient depth because injuries happen).
Hoping Drew is the guy we have been told he is and with Fashanu coming back the line should have a good anchor. The interior of the defensive line is still a mess and I have no idea how they plan on fixing it.
1. Inability to recruit or develop an elite QB.
2. Inability to recruit or develop the interior defensive line.
3. Inability to recruit, develop, or assemble a dominant offensive line (including sufficient depth because injuries happen).
Hoping Drew is the guy we have been told he is and with Fashanu coming back the line should have a good anchor. The interior of the defensive line is still a mess and I have no idea how they plan on fixing it.
Or you are confused on PSU's record agains UM, as having split the last 6 games does not equate to being "tired of being dominated". And regarding oh-high-ya, failing to close out being ahead 3 times in the 4th quarter since the 2016 win also doen's quite equate to being dominated. Franklin has admitted he has not gotten his program to "elite" status. What of it? How many coaches that won 10 games this season are in line to replace him? Yep its's hard to break into elite status. If you can click your heels 3 times and make it happen, go ahead.
Focusing on the "current times" is about to change as in case you missed it the playoff is expanding to 12 teams, which PSU would have made it into a number of times recently.
Yep, King got beat once. I was a PSU fan when Jack Ham played and he got beat once as well. But I don't believe Ham played as a freshman back then. Playing young players will get even the best players subject to some plays they aren't ready for. I'm not all in on King as a super star Mike fo rPSU but the fact remains that the returning LB's will be a much better unit than what PSU began 2022 with and with the injection of the 2023 LB class the play of the LB group should continue an uptrend. King will have to continue to get better of he will likely lose playing time to one of the young athletic LB's that are coming. And the next time PSU meets MSU I'd bet that Diaz has a different coverage scheme for the LB's. Were you expecting PSU to shut out MSU?
I'm a college football fan....but only three games are relevant. 
I'm a college football fan....but only three games are relevant.
Franklin laughs at relevance.
Coach Franklin has the following record against the BIG 2:
Ohio State 1-8
Michigan 3-6
Total record against the BIG 2 is 4-14. Using basic math, this equates to losing 77.7% of the time.
That is called dominance. This is straight forward. You can try to sugar coat things by talking about how close some of the scores were. The only scores that count are wins and losses.
Losing to your top rivals nearly 78% of the time is plain awful by any standards.
Yep, change the subject to go back to the years Franklin had 5 scholarship olinemen and limited scholarships all down the roster and include those mismatches in your stats. Which is pretty much B.S.
As I already said and you did nothing to disprove, Franklin has played UM pretty even the last 6 years and his teams have matched up against oh-high-ya better than UM has other than the last 2 years.
You can call it whatever you want.........
If your so discusted with Franklin and PSU football, you could always transfer to another team. Franklin is going to be PSU's coach for a long time.
There are 131 FBS programs. There are about 120 of them that would change places with Penn State. I'm okay with that. You need to stop following Penn State, stop posting your negative opinions on this board, and become a fan of one of the other top 4 or 5 teams. We will all be better off.The 2022 CFP finale drew 22.6 million viewers and was the most watched non NFL event in the United States.
PSU needs to get to the CFP. Recruiting will explode if that happens next year. It’s CFP or irrelevancy. There are no trophies for finishing in 3rd place in the BIG East division.
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All my posts are based on reality and real data. Apparently, you prefer to keep your head buried in the sand and are satisfied with mediocrity and remaining a little brother program compared to the BIG 2. That is your decision. You may be more suitable to becoming a fan of one of the other tier 2 programs who just roll over and take their annual beatings from Ohio State and Michigan.
For the vast majority of PSU fans, we will continue to expect a return back to prominence of which PSU is capable of achieving. No more 3rd and 4th place BIG East division finishes. PSU has the resources, fan base, players, and coaching staff to have and achieve higher goals like a BIG championship or qualifying for the CFP. That is the standard of our top competitors. PSU should have the same high standards.
+1. Getting rid of the continually overrated Don Brown was the first big improvement. Too bad I liked him.
Well Joe M. didn't do much without Barkley, McSorley, Godwin, Hamilton...
I guess you missed the Joe Moorhead offense that made Ohio State look ridiculous in Columbus.
Enjoy a trip down memory lane:
In stunning upset, Oregon beats Ohio State 35-28
In a game that Ohio State was favored to win, Oregon pulled off an upset Saturday with a 35-28 victory.
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You can't polish mud....can't make chicken salad with chicken ****.
On the other hand....even with premium ingredients, a skilled chef can make a difference.
Perhaps a fan portal is needed? It would make for an interesting new thread. Don't like what James and PSU Football is doing?
Get a fresh start.
Get a fresh start.
Oh, that one game. Ok.I guess you missed the Joe Moorhead offense that made Ohio State look ridiculous in Columbus.
Enjoy a trip down memory lane:
In stunning upset, Oregon beats Ohio State 35-28
In a game that Ohio State was favored to win, Oregon pulled off an upset Saturday with a 35-28 victory.www.opb.org
Optimism is great. Problem? Optimism often becomes expectation which when not realized becomes poisonousOptimistic views are frowned upon here.
Ok I read Ryan Snyder's column today on Franklin's press conference, and maybe I am too optimistic but there may be hope...Two things popped out at me. First Coach Z is emerging as a recruiter gaining praise for flipping the NC LB Keys back to us. I am worried about our recruiting south of VA when JS leaves to fail as a head coach but Z has long term loyalty potential to PSU and it might be showing that Franklin's energy might transfer to his subordinates. Second, the comments on the Blanding kid from NY are real interesting, especially in the context of the *** kicking we took in the trenches from MeatChicken. The kid has both twitch and explosiveness but lacks size. PSU has an elite strength and conditioning program. What we need is a someone of high character to come in and become a Warren Sapp and Jerome Brown in terms of beef and nastiness. I think we are solving our O-Line problems with the three from this class, Tengwell, Fashanu, Wormley and Shelton but we need a sign on the D-Line...Lord. Merry Christmas. Won't be too much longer before we pummel the fighting Utes...
Yes there is...The 2022 CFP finale drew 22.6 million viewers and was the most watched non NFL event in the United States.
PSU needs to get to the CFP. Recruiting will explode if that happens next year. It’s CFP or irrelevancy. There are no trophies for finishing in 3rd place in the BIG East division.
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