Good news....guess who is planning on going on tour in 2023....

[Moogy]

Pa Supreme Court overturned any conviction. One reason why I moved out of that state. Fetterman, da in Philly, courts way to liberal and soft on crime. So. He is free.

Let's all remember your initial response to this:

"Cosby is hysterical. What did he do? Had sex with some women? Minors? Just says women with lawsuits. Are these 40 years after the fact or is an 80 year old man fondling them."

Now you're trying to act like it's all about PA being messed up and too soft on crime? Stop. You're only making yourself look worse.

 

[StamfordBridgeVikingatLeftOffensiveTackle]

The fair, and accurate, thing to say (as you did) is that he got out on a technicality. The Prosecutor promised not to press charges if he testified. Then the following Prosecutor decided to go ahead with the trial.

Obviously his testimony helped cook him, BUT given the number of women that came forward, I think they would have been able to convict him of something pretty severe in any case.

Castor's Folly.

 

[razpsu]

Question for you ... if someone close to you ... someone you loved ... was drugged and raped, and too scared to come forward because the rapist was a powerful celebrity, and because well, they were drugged and it wasn't exactly the clearest memory ...

And when they finally did feel empowered enough to speak up about it the statute of limitations had prohibited any legal proceedings on the matter ... would your response to them be "hey, he wasn't convicted in court, and he's HILARIOUS, so bugger off! LOL!"?

Regardless, of the few who could still do something about it, one got a conviction, which was upheld an appeal, and only later overturned because of a deal a former prosecutor made with Cosby. Another got a civil judgment against him. Others got settlements. And, we have a deposition where he admitted that he would drug women, unknown to them, in order to have sex with them.

But you can "lol" about this rapists actions all you want, if that's the hill you want to die on.

You do realize I’m just stirring the pot on this thread. Right?

 

[Moogy]

You do realize I’m just stirring the pot on this thread. Right?

Ah, yes, so after the fact, you're telling us that you were just showing us what a scumbucket would write if he were to post on this thread. Wink, wink. You sure stirred the pot!

 

[Stephen Light]

Castor's Folly.

Yep, that’s the guy!

 

[razpsu]

Ah, yes, so after the fact, you're telling us that you were just showing us what a scumbucket would write if he were to post on this thread. Wink, wink. You sure stirred the pot!

I started posting on this thread when I was watching big network and they were highlighting on the success and role model of a Michigan grad. The grad was Lori light foot. Omg. So it put me in a mood.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Pa Supreme Court overturned any conviction. One reason why I moved out of that state. Fetterman, da in Philly, courts way to liberal and soft on crime. So. He is free.

So you are saying his convictions was overturned by a corrupt justice system and that’s your reason for believing he didn’t drug and rape these women?

 

[razpsu]

So you are saying his convictions was overturned by a corrupt justice system and that’s your reason for believing he didn’t drug and rape these women?

I never said he didn’t do it but the justice system in pa did. Whether you like it or not they set him free and he has no record if I’m reading vacated correctly. Remember oj? They set that guy free omg.

I have 3 daughters what do you think I would do if someone did anything to them.

 

[Connorpozlee]

I never said he didn’t do it but the justice system in pa did. Whether you like it or not they set him free and he has no record if I’m reading vacated correctly. Remember oj? They set that guy free omg.

I have 3 daughters what do you think I would do if someone did anything to them.
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I think it’s safe to say that whatever point you were trying to make missed the mark by quite a bit.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Courts didn’t get time to set Dahmer free. He only spent 2.5 years in jail before he was killed.
Cosby was convicted by a jury of his peers. It was overturned because one prosecutor promised Cosby something the next one didn’t uphold (if I remember it correctly, not exactly sure what the promise was). But the fact remains that when out in front of s jury of his peers, he was convicted.
And you’re not “just sayin the legal system set him free”, you’re saying he just had sex with some women.

I can't stand Cosby but his conviction was correctly overturned due to prosecutorial misconduct. Defendants charged with criminal conduct which is also part of a civil suit never testify in the civil proceedings until after the criminal charges are resolved. If the plaintiffs in the civil action insist upon them appearing for a deposition before the charges are resolved, even a first year law student know to instruct them to take the 5th. In this instance, the prosecutor told Cosby and his lawyers that he could "safely" testify in the civil proceedings because nothing he testified to in those proceedings would be used against him in the criminal proceedings. After he testified, the prosecutor used his testimony against him in the criminal proceedings. Frankly, it made no sense to me for the lawyers to push for testimony in the civil cases before the criminal charges were resolved because if they were and he was convicted or pled guilty, that would conclusively establish his liability in the civil case(s).

 

[Got GSPs]

Courts didn’t get time to set Dahmer free. He only spent 2.5 years in jail before he was killed.
Cosby was convicted by a jury of his peers. It was overturned because one prosecutor promised Cosby something the next one didn’t uphold (if I remember it correctly, not exactly sure what the promise was). But the fact remains that when out in front of s jury of his peers, he was convicted.
And you’re not “just sayin the legal system set him free”, you’re saying he just had sex with some women.

Original prosecutor offered him immunity if he testified in civil suits. Next prosecutor didn’t honor the immunity agreement. This is what I recall.

 

[BrucePa]

I'm not a fan of Cosby anymore, but I have heard Jerry Seinfeld say he belongs on the Mount Rushmore of Comedy with George Carlin, Richard Pryor, and Mel Brooks. Or I might replace Cosby with Groucho Marx.

 

[Got GSPs]

Never heard about CK. I did just read that Mike Tysoncant get a visa to Japan because of rape conviction. I forgot all about that. Was that his wife/ex wife Robin Givens or someone else? Anyway, he’s been on multiple movies/tv shows as a cameo. Seems like people have forgiven him or just forgot like me.

 

[LionJim]

I can't stand Cosby but his conviction was correctly overturned due to prosecutorial misconduct. Defendants charged with criminal conduct which is also part of a civil suit never testify in the civil proceedings until after the criminal charges are resolved. If the plaintiffs in the civil action insist upon them appearing for a deposition before the charges are resolved, even a first year law student know to instruct them to take the 5th. In this instance, the prosecutor told Cosby and his lawyers that he could "safely" testify in the civil proceedings because nothing he testified to in those proceedings would be used against him in the criminal proceedings. After he testified, the prosecutor used his testimony against him in the criminal proceedings. Frankly, it made no sense to me for the lawyers to push for testimony in the civil cases before the criminal charges were resolved because if they were and he was convicted or pled guilty, that would conclusively establish his liability in the civil case(s).

Oh, the courts made the right decision to spring him. I spend some time on Lawyer Twitter and the reaction was pretty uniform: he needed to be set free. Regardless, his criminal deeds are well-established. If he wants to go out trying to make himself some cash, he’s free and American. But he is NOT someone who didn’t deserve to go to jail.

 

[Got GSPs]

I'm not a fan of Cosby anymore, but I have heard Jerry Seinfeld say he belongs on the Mount Rushmore of Comedy with George Carlin, Richard Pryor, and Mel Brooks. Or I might replace Cosby with Groucho Marx.

I think you can acknowledge someone’s talents while still recognizing their faults/crimes.

 

[razpsu]

I think it’s safe to say that whatever point you were trying to make missed the mark by quite a bit.

 

[LionJim]

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[razpsu]

Teichmuller: Extraordinary mathematican, die-hard Nazi.

Oswald Teichmüller - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I think we can draw the line with this one .

 

[Moogy]

I think we can draw the line with this one .

But not with drugging and raping women? Many women. Over an extended period of time.

 

[razpsu]

But not with drugging and raping women? Many women. Over an extended period of time.

Like I said. Not my fault he wasnt convicted. But to compare him with nazis who exterminated a race and killed millions? Cmon man.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Like I said. Not my fault he wasnt convicted. But to compare him with nazis who exterminated a race and killed millions? Cmon man.

He was convicted. Conviction was later (sounds like appropriately) overturned on prosecutorial misconduct. But when tried by his peers, he was convicted.

 

[LionJim]

I’m out. Too stupid for me.

 

[razpsu]

He was convicted. Conviction was later (sounds like appropriately) overturned on prosecutorial misconduct. But when tried by his peers, he was convicted.

By using incorrect info from da which vacated any conviction. Stupid da and liberal court. What can you do. Time to move on.

 

[Moogy]

Like I said. Not my fault he wasnt convicted. But to compare him with nazis who exterminated a race and killed millions? Cmon man.

So then you don’t draw the line at drugging and raping a multitude of women over a prolonged period of time. Got it. Boy, you sure are stirring that pot of immorality, criminality and just plain awfulness. Way to go!

 

[razpsu]

So then you don’t draw the line at drugging and raping a multitude of women over a prolonged period of time. Got it. Boy, you sure are stirring that pot of immorality, criminality and just plain awfulness. Way to go!

Dude. He wasn’t convicted or so says the Supreme Court. So I say Stop putting in these liberal das, liberal judges and mayors that don’t give a damn about crime: there are criminals that murder people etc let off the hook every day in these liberal cities and states. So do something about it and stop voting these people in.

 

[Moogy]

Dude. He wasn’t convicted or so says the Supreme Court. So I say Stop putting in these liberal das, liberal judges and mayors that don’t give a damn about crime: there are criminals that murder people etc let off the hook every day in these liberal cities and states. So do something about it and stop voting these people in.

What does any of that have to do with the fact that you don't draw the line at rapists? Rapists who raped many women, many times, over many years?

Here's what you originally said: "Cosby is hysterical. What did he do? Had sex with some women? Minors? Just says women with lawsuits. Are these 40 years after the fact or is an 80 year old man fondling them."

You drew the line at Nazis, but not at serial rapists. And that's on you ... nobody else. Oswald Techmuller wasn't convicted of anything, either ... so that weak attempt at an excuse won't fly. Just tell your daughters that if they happened to be raped by someone who makes you laugh, you'll ignore the rapist's actions and keep on laughing.

 

[razpsu]

What does any of that have to do with the fact that you don't draw the line at rapists? Rapists who raped many women, many times, over many years?

Here's what you originally said: "Cosby is hysterical. What did he do? Had sex with some women? Minors? Just says women with lawsuits. Are these 40 years after the fact or is an 80 year old man fondling them."

You drew the line at Nazis, but not at serial rapists. And that's on you ... nobody else. Oswald Techmuller wasn't convicted of anything, either ... so that weak attempt at an excuse won't fly. Just tell your daughters that if they happened to be raped by someone who makes you laugh, you'll ignore the rapist's actions and keep on laughing.

Yes, nazis we’re far worse then anything, well maybe minus Stalin, but to compare Cosby to exterminating 6 million Jews and millions more is just ignorant at best and it was a bad example.
the da screwed up and knew from the other da before that he should not use the information in the civil case because if he did, would set Cosby free. The Supreme Court vacated any ruling by jury so the guy walks free with so many allegations of wrong doing. So do something about it if you are so enraged. I said my peace. I am out! Will not reply further.

 

[Moogy]

Yes that is what I said. It was a question! See the question marks? By my count 5 questions. Sorry to ask questions when this first started. unlike you I didn’t have all of the facts. Yes, nazis we’re far worse then anything, well maybe minus Stalin, but to compare Cosby to exterminating 6 million Jews and millions more is just ignorant at best and it was a bad example.
after reading about it even more today the da screwed up and knew from the other da before that he should not use the information in the civil case because if he did, would set Cosby free. The Supreme Court vacated any ruling by jury so the guy walks free with so many allegations of wrong doing. So do something about it if you are so enraged. I said my peace. I am out! Will not reply further.

If questions are indicated by question marks, as you suggest, then the count is actually 3 questions, big guy ... not 5. Maybe that's why you're having so much trouble with all this. Regardless, it's pretty easy for a sane, rational, ethical person to acknowledge that what the Nazis did is worse than what Cosby did, but to still "draw the line" well before it reaches a man who is a serial rapist of women, no matter how "hysterical" he is. That the Nazis are even further across the line of evil is neither here nor there as to the question of where the line is drawn for sane, rational, ethical people. Ask your female loved ones, if they happened to be drugged and then raped by Cosby, and you said "well, he's not a Nazi so his actions don't cross the line for me" in response to their confessions, how they'd take it. And if you want to say "that's totally messed up, dude!" Yeah, you're right. It is. That's the point. You tried to use the "wasn't convicted" line to excuse away your support of Cosby, but as I pointed out ... the Nazi that LionJim highlighted wasn't convicted of anything, either. It's also obvious that you were lying about your ignorance of Cosby's situation ... in your initial comments (questions), you even indicate you're aware of things he did "40 years" before the accusations.

 

[wbcbus]

Like I said. Not my fault he wasnt convicted. But to compare him with nazis who exterminated a race and killed millions? Cmon man.

First, he was convicted. That conviction was rightly overturned, but not due to his innocence.

Second, who gives a crap if it was overturned or not. OJ murdered two people, doesn’t matter if he was convicted or not. The right to presumed innocence is from the government and justice system, not any members of society with two brain cells.

But you keep “stirring the pot” and think you’re being witty.