A dude in Greenwood had one in the late 70s/early 80s, he was the coolest guy in town.Subaru Brat says hello. Although I did enjoy the two suicide seats in the bed.
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A dude in Greenwood had one in the late 70s/early 80s, he was the coolest guy in town.Subaru Brat says hello. Although I did enjoy the two suicide seats in the bed.
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There’s a guy in my county who has several Brats. He drives one all the time. There’s another guy around who has dozens of the Isuzu Pups / Chevy Luv diesel pickup trucks. Probably early 90’s era trucks. He has a warehouse full of them.A dude in Greenwood had one in the late 70s/early 80s, he was the coolest guy in town.
I rarely enter the EV threads with opinions because I just don't know enough to be useful or interesting. But, I did find this review from a buddy of Tucker to be honest and entertaining. The guy should start his own YouTube channel (but I think you'll see he's too busy).
From a Yankee Good Ole Boy (sorry if this is Germans)...
I can't even keep up anymore... Is the cyber truck an answer to the existential crisis of climate change because it's an EV, or is it pure evil because Adolph Musk invented it? Someone let me know whether I can like it or not**You're an idiot. The video is not at all about Tucker.
I saw one parking at the grocery store. When I got of my truck (a lifted F-150 Lariat, by God), there were people in the parking lot straight up pointing and laughing at the Cyber truck. I know the dude (and we all know it's a dude driving those) had hear them. At least the guy had the sense to wrap those awful stainless steel body panels with matte black.
I would have seriously considered getting one. All I use my truck for is driving back and forth from work. We use the minivan to take any long trips. I actually watched it live when Elon showed it off. As soon as it rolled out all motivation I had to get one disappeared.In some ways I appreciate these early adopters. It feels like we as a species have to go down this road and we need pioneers to lead the way.
I'm just pretty confident I don't wanna hang out with any of them.
I would have seriously considered getting one. All I use my truck for is driving back and forth from work. We use the minivan to take any long trips. I actually watched it live when Elon showed it off. As soonel as it rolled out all motivation I had to get one disappeared.
Oh I agree. Politicians just think they set a rule and then industry will make it happen, but they don't know the millions of dollars and all the hard work that goes into their uninformed decisions. It's like we just push a button to make it happen.
But, I also think there are a lot of uninformed opinions about EVs because there is a lot of money to be lost. In the oil industry. In mechanics and shops. In quick change oil places. I see negative articles all the time about them and think that none of them are what my lived experience tells me is true.
I have over 86,000 miles in just over 2 years and have never (and will never) need an oil change. I've never needed to take it to the shop. It's never had any mechanical issue.
In short, other than the payment, I am cash flow positive over an ICE car because I drive so much. And subtracting out the gas, oil, and maintenance, my payment isn't really that much. If you have a shorter commute, your payback will be longer.
Exactly.In some ways I appreciate these early adopters. It feels like we as a species have to go down this road and we need pioneers to lead the way.
I'm just pretty confident I don't wanna hang out with any of them.
I have a theory that the people who buy cyber trucks have a robust humiliation kink.I saw one parking at the grocery store. When I got of my truck (a lifted F-150 Lariat, by God), there were people in the parking lot straight up pointing and laughing at the Cyber truck. I know the dude (and we all know it's a dude driving those) had hear them. At least the guy had the sense to wrap those awful stainless steel body panels with matte black.
There's nothing wrong with Tesla building a capable electric truck. The problem is the overall design. It's such a departure from their normal design language that in my heart of hearts I believe it was a joke design that Elon Musk thought was cool and made them make it. It looks like a prop from a bad Sci-Fi movie. The Tesla cars are attractive regardless of the tech inside of them. Once all the tech-bros have their Cyber Trucks, I imagine sales flatten out because normies don't want to drive a steel dumpster.In some ways I appreciate these early adopters. It feels like we as a species have to go down this road and we need pioneers to lead the way.
I'm just pretty confident I don't wanna hang out with any of them.
My EV is from June 2022 and I have over 86k miles on it. I charge to 80% daily and when I get to work it usually had around 60% when I got to work when I first got it. Now, it has a lot closer to 58% most times. One of the good things though is that more chargers are coming up and I'll be able to charge without having to replace the big battery.I still have my 2015 Nissan Leaf that I bought new in December 2014. Has over 102k miles on it.
In the years that we've had it, I've replaced all 4 tires twice. I also replaced the 12V battery (not the "big" battery set that propels the car down the road) once, because I was getting some weird error message. We put in a 220V charger in our garage when we bought it, so it would charge faster.
And that's it. This is our first EV, and it has greatly exceeded our expectations.
The battery pack doesn't store/use energy as efficiently as it did when it was new, but we can take the car anywhere that is within 25-30 miles of our house (50-60 mile roundtrip).
When the battery pack is on it's last legs, we will sell the Leaf and buy a Tesla (probably either a Model 3 or a Model Y).
Not having to buy gas is a beautiful thing.
Excellent question. I would have waited for the second year model for the points you made above if I did decide to get one. Definitely would have wanted to see them in the wild first.Honest question.
I've never been somebody who will buy a brand new vehicle model. Don't even like the idea of buying the first year of a redesign on an existing model.
Knowing the headaches your going to have with a brand new product line, a very new, relatively, car company and the very high price, what would make you consider one of these (before you saw it)??
I give you the car from TimecopThere's nothing wrong with Tesla building a capable electric truck. The problem is the overall design. It's such a departure from their normal design language that in my heart of hearts I believe it was a joke design that Elon Musk thought was cool and made them make it. It looks like a prop from a bad Sci-Fi movie. The Tesla cars are attractive regardless of the tech inside of them. Once all the tech-bros have their Cyber Trucks, I imagine sales flatten out because normies don't want to drive a steel dumpster.
The Rivian is so much more attractive.
I bought the first year of mine. As a matter of fact, I think 22 was the first year they did any all electric but I'm not sure about that.Honest question.
I've never been somebody who will buy a brand new vehicle model. Don't even like the idea of buying the first year of a redesign on an existing model.
Knowing the headaches your going to have with a brand new product line, a very new, relatively, car company and the very high price, what would make you consider one of these (before you saw it)??
A lot of Californians are very conflicted about that very issue. And that’s not even a joke. For real.I can't even keep up anymore... Is the cyber truck an answer to the existential crisis of climate change because it's an EV, or is it pure evil because Adolph Musk invented it? Someone let me know whether I can like it or not**
This is very good and underrated advice. Never, ever, ever buy a vehicle on the 1st year it’s produced. I’m even a little hesitant about the 2nd year.Honest question.
I've never been somebody who will buy a brand new vehicle model. Don't even like the idea of buying the first year of a redesign on an existing model.
Knowing the headaches your going to have with a brand new product line, a very new, relatively, car company and the very high price, what would make you consider one of these (before you saw it)??
EV can be a good choice for some people, if you’re a 2-car family & the EV will be primarily for round trips of 200 miles or less. A few comments:I still have my 2015 Nissan Leaf that I bought new in December 2014. Has over 102k miles on it.
In the years that we've had it, I've replaced all 4 tires twice. I also replaced the 12V battery (not the "big" battery set that propels the car down the road) once, because I was getting some weird error message. We put in a 220V charger in our garage when we bought it, so it would charge faster.
And that's it. This is our first EV, and it has greatly exceeded our expectations.
The battery pack doesn't store/use energy as efficiently as it did when it was new, but we can take the car anywhere that is within 25-30 miles of our house (50-60 mile roundtrip).
When the battery pack is on it's last legs, we will sell the Leaf and buy a Tesla (probably either a Model 3 or a Model Y).
Not having to buy gas is a beautiful thing.
EV can be a good choice for some people, if you’re a 2-car family & the EV will be primarily for round trips of 200 miles or less. A few comments:
1. Good luck getting anything for it when the battery pack is on its last legs.
2. no gas is good, but you’re really only saving 1/2 to 2/3 the cost at best. And that’s if you never charge anywhere but home.
3. Dealing with a huge cable the size of a gas pump hose in your garage & having to charge every night is a pain.
I’ll be driving my gas guzzler for a while longer then get a hybrid. But if I was a 2-car family, I might consider an EV.
That dropoff isn't too bad yet (barely even noticeable). The big battery should last you for a good while longer.My EV is from June 2022 and I have over 86k miles on it. I charge to 80% daily and when I get to work it usually had around 60% when I got to work when I first got it. Now, it has a lot closer to 58% most times. One of the good things though is that more chargers are coming up and I'll be able to charge without having to replace the big battery.
I am going to replace the little battery soon. One thing most people don't realize is that while you can change a 12V battery in an ICE car, it's harder to do in an EV because you have to disconnect it from the big battery. I pretty much have to get mine done at the dealership, so it'll be fairly expensive, but I'm going to do it preventively. I'll probably get it done around January or February.
Yes, we have 3 cars and 2 are ICE cars. Daughter is headed to Virginia Tech, which is about 240 miles from the house, so we need the ICE cars.EV can be a good choice for some people, if you’re a 2-car family & the EV will be primarily for round trips of 200 miles or less. A few comments:
1. Good luck getting anything for it when the battery pack is on its last legs.
2. no gas is good, but you’re really only saving 1/2 to 2/3 the cost at best. And that’s if you never charge anywhere but home.
3. Dealing with a huge cable the size of a gas pump hose in your garage & having to charge every night is a pain.
I’ll be driving my gas guzzler for a while longer then get a hybrid. But if I was a 2-car family, I might consider an EV.
1. Completely agreeYes, we have 3 cars and 2 are ICE cars. Daughter is headed to Virginia Tech, which is about 240 miles from the house, so we need the ICE cars.
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1) Right. I'm sure that I won't get much for it. But anything I do get is gravy, because I've driven this car for 10 years and over 100k miles . . . and I'm still driving it. As I said earlier, our EV car has greatly exceeded our expectations.
2) I'm saving only 1/2 to 2/3 the cast of gas? How do you know that? I charge my EV car only at home, because I drive it only to places within 30 miles of my house. Years ago, I compared my electricity bills AFTER my EV to my bills BEFORE my EV, and the difference was minimal ($10-15/mo). Charging our EV made no significant difference in our electricity bill.
3) The charger in my garage is no trouble at all. It's mounted to the wall, so it doesn't take up much space. The plugin port on my EV car is on the front. I pull into the garage, and the charger is right there. It takes 5-10 seconds to plugin.
Clearly, EV cars are not for everyone. Each person has to take a look at his particular circumstances and determine whether an EV car would work for him.
Try a hybrid when you're ready. If you like it and think that an EV car would work for you, then you could give it a try.
I'll be glad when the day comes that EV's find a way into our society because of their practicality and not because some nit-wit politician is trying to force it to pander to a certain group of voters. I believe half the homes in this country with multiple vehicles would seriously consider at least one EV now if it made sense to them. Then as technology does it's thing (as it always has) the EV will find it's way into more and more applications. I truly believe if we take a pragmatic approach to this and keep politics out of it , it will happen much quicker than most realize.1. Completely agree
2. Most EV MPGe is about 100-120 mpg. A good hybrid can get 40. All electric is a big gas savings but it’s not free.
3. based on what I’ve seen at my sons (EV) and my dads (PHEV), it’s not for me. But that obviously varies by person.
4. I would have a hybrid today but the car I wanted didn’t come in a hybrid version. I do believe we need to very quickly get to a point where a pure ICE, no hybrid vehicle is mostly a thing of the past.
I'll be glad when the day comes that EV's find a way into our society because of their practicality and not because some nit-wit politician is trying to force it to pander to a certain group of voters. I believe half the homes in this country with multiple vehicles would seriously consider at least one EV now if it made sense to them. Then as technology does it's thing (as it always has) the EV will find it's way into more and more applications. I truly believe if we take a pragmatic approach to this and keep politics out of it , it will happen much quicker than most realize.
Just waiting for Adam Smith's Invisible Hand to sort it out.I'll be glad when the day comes that EV's find a way into our society because of their practicality and not because some nit-wit politician is trying to force it to pander to a certain group of voters. I believe half the homes in this country with multiple vehicles would seriously consider at least one EV now if it made sense to them. Then as technology does it's thing (as it always has) the EV will find it's way into more and more applications. I truly believe if we take a pragmatic approach to this and keep politics out of it , it will happen much quicker than most realize.
And Tucker is AS REAL AS IT GETS, right?!? lolBtw, in your real review all you have to do is watch the first thing they do to the trucks to know it's actually not at all a real review. It's entertainment for ADD people.
It's ON HIS STUPID PAGE, MORON.You're an idiot. The video is not at all about Tucker.
It's ON HIS STUPID PAGE, MORON.
The video is Tucker getting a review from an actual guy who used it in place of his F350 for a few days on his farm/sawmill. So the purpose of the original video is a "real" review of a truck.And Tucker is AS REAL AS IT GETS, right?!? lol