Half way through another season & some folks are "hoping" for 6 wins

18IsTheMan

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And, sorry to burst bubbles, but 6 wins is not even improvement over last year.
 

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In year 4 a team is the coach's team and what you see is pretty much what you are going to have going forward. No successful coach in the current era of college football has magically become great after 4 mediocre seasons. If 6 wins is what the fans demand to be satisfied, I think Beamer may be the man for the South Carolina job. He may not hit that magic number this season but I think he will most seasons.
 

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I think ALL folks are hoping for that at this point. Looking at the schedule you knew we'd have to upset a couple to get to 6-7 wins. I didn't think it was going to be UK. Opportunities were squandered against LSU and Bama. The opportunities are slipping away.
 

The Reel Ess

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In year 4 a team is the coach's team and what you see is pretty much what you are going to have going forward. No successful coach in the current era of college football has magically become great after 4 mediocre seasons. If 6 wins is what the fans demand to be satisfied, I think Beamer may be the man for the South Carolina job. He may not hit that magic number this season but I think he will most seasons.
6-8 wins a season with the occasional 9-10 will probably keep your job as long as you can walk.
 
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will110

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6-8 wins a season with the occasional 9-10 will probably get you a statue around here.
Spurrier doesn't have a statue, so it'll take more than that. But you're right it would be plenty good enough to keep your job in perpetuity.
 
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Yeah, I exaggerated. But there's a grain of truth in it.
Spurrier, overall, was not a 9-10 win coach. 6 of his 10 full seasons here, he was a 6-8 win guy. So you weren't far off, I don't think. If we ever had a coach who could consistently win 9-10 games for a prolonged period, he would be considered coaching deity.
 
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Spurrier, overall, was not a 9-10 win coach. 6 of his 10 full seasons here, he was a 6-8 win guy. So you weren't far off, I don't think. If we ever had a coach who could consistently win 9-10 games for a prolonged period, he would be considered coaching deity.
And, given the conference we play in, a consistently winning coach should be considered a success. I believe the best we can ask for is a guy who is a perennial winner and makes a an occasional run at the conference championship. Apparently, I'm asking too much.
 
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18IsTheMan

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And, given the conference we play in, a consistently winning coach should be considered a success. I believe the best we can ask for is a guy who is a perennial winner and makes a an occasional run at the conference championship. Apparently, I'm asking too much.

occasional runs at conference titles??? slow your roll there, pal!
 
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And, given the conference we play in, a consistently winning coach should be considered a success. I believe the best we can ask for is a guy who is a perennial winner and makes a an occasional run at the conference championship. Apparently, I'm asking too much.

I think we should be a bowl eligible team at a minimum.
 
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18IsTheMan

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I think we should be a bowl eligible team at a minimum.

That should be absolute baseline. Considering that many years we have 3-4 cream puff wins on the slate (including Vandy even though they aren't a cream puff this year), all we're asking is for the team to 3-6 or 2-6 in our other 8-9 games.

That's not a particularly big ask. Making bowl games has to stopped being looked as an accomplishment and start being considered a required minimum. A foregone conclusion. In the current bowl system, > 60% of all teams go to a bowl. Entering the season, teams actually have a greater statistical chance of making a bowl than not making a bowl. Being in the top 60% is NOT a very strenuous demand.

With how much college football has evolved, I don't know why so many people still look at the 6-win mark as an accomplishment. Well, actually, I do. The same reason some folks would celebrate making the NIT. Or how some teams will celebrate being a playoff team as the #12 seed.
 

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This'll get bloody before its over.
Not talking Spur either.
 

will110

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That should be absolute baseline. Considering that many years we have 3-4 cream puff wins on the slate (including Vandy even though they aren't a cream puff this year), all we're asking is for the team to 3-6 or 2-6 in our other 8-9 games.

That's not a particularly big ask. Making bowl games has to stopped being looked as an accomplishment and start being considered a required minimum. A foregone conclusion. In the current bowl system, > 60% of all teams go to a bowl. Entering the season, teams actually have a greater statistical chance of making a bowl than not making a bowl. Being in the top 60% is NOT a very strenuous demand.

With how much college football has evolved, I don't know why so many people still look at the 6-win mark as an accomplishment. Well, actually, I do. The same reason some folks would celebrate making the NIT. Or how some teams will celebrate being a playoff team as the #12 seed.
You wouldn't celebrate making the playoff as a 12 seed?

6 wins and the NIT are accomplishments for some programs. Those are reasonable steps for a coach as he builds a program. Context is important, and whether or not those are reasonable accomplishments or failures is going to depend on context.
 

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If you didn't jump on the bandwagon last year when we had 5 wins don't jump on it this year when we have 6šŸ˜
 
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18IsTheMan

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You wouldn't celebrate making the playoff as a 12 seed?

6 wins and the NIT are accomplishments for some programs. Those are reasonable steps for a coach as he builds a program. Context is important, and whether or not those are reasonable accomplishments or failures is going to depend on context.

I would celebrate us being ranked that high. I would also be well aware that we "made the playoffs" only as a byproduct of the playoffs being expanded.

I was thinking, however, more of those teams who were ranked in the 8-12 range last year and missed the playoffs and who finish with more or less the same record this year but make the playoffs only because they have been expanded. Those teams will scream "look, we got better and made the playoffs!" when really they didn't get better at all. The bar was just lowered.
 
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