State went to Omaha ten times between 1971 and 2018. That is one trip to Omaha every 4.8 years. Are you saying that if we got rid of Lemonis we would go to Omaha once every 4.8 years?
And this my friends is the only thing that matters when talking about NIL. Can we offer a kid $100k to be (or stay) a dawg? I’m sure, but what difference does that make when 8 other SEC schools can offer him $300k?
We are the poster child for mediocrity. And Lemonis has nothing to do with, As soon as Zach Selmon realizes it....he's outta here.
3 - It’s both. Agree that Lemonis & Selmon are both doing a poor job.
If our NIL is fine and the best players are still going elsewhere and rejecting our offer then our program clearly doesn't have the appeal it once had.
If NIL isn't an issue, who do we out compete for top guys? Or are the top players going elsewhere because they don't like Lemonis?
Lemonis is the common denominator. This isn’t hard. Hand this program to a DVH or Vitello or Pollard and none of these lame excuses would be necessary. This is why we lose. We would rather find and excuse than think we can do better
Several of the players at TAMU and Tennessee listed their top places to play. The dude was on most all their list, so why did they chose the program they did over ours? My guess is A money nil, B we never offered C coach D just where they wanted to school/academics E geography/family.
How much is Goat paying you to start these threads?
We could have hired Schloss to blow a 1-0 lead in the series… that would have been real fun***
Given that we have one national title to our name I would argue that advantage was always tenuous. I don't see any reason we can't be in the hosting discussion going forward but we're no more or less likely to win it all IMO.
Is not just money. These guys want to win and play for good coaches. Lemonis ditched our program kids talk and so do coaches. We also suck at playing the tampering game.
To answer the question, yes. I think it’s a safe bet to say that a top notch coach could take this program and have it in Omaha once every 4-5 years.
We have plenty of NIL that is not the issue. It’s who players want to play and be developed by. Development is the biggest driver right now if NIL can be matched. Which we can match. We have the best fans, top notch stadium, and NIL funding. It’s comes down to who they want to play for. It’s that simple, the good ones want to go pro.
Literally every coach we’ve hired since 1975 has done it. So yeah, unless we just 17 up a hire our coach should have us in Omaha on a fairly regular basis.
But that right there tells me that there’s a problem with NIL. If there’s one thing that pro sports has taught us, it’s that players are going to go where they can get the most $$$ 99.9% of the time, and if a NFLer will turn down $26M/yr because he thinks he can get $30M elsewhere(looking at you Aiyuk), I have to think that a college kid will certainly turn down $200k from us if he can $500k from LSU or Florida.
I can promise you we are matching NIL offers. If Arky is offering 100k, we have matched it and it came down to development. Lemonis doesn’t have a great reputation right now on development. Parker does, but that’s all. Players just like us hear things. A lot think he is a lame duck coach right now and on a hot seat. They want to go where good players go and have a chance to play post season. They want it to be fun and productive. I’m not saying the narrative is completely correct l, but it is the narrative out there right now.
No one here will be remotely satisfied with 2 Omaha trips per decade any more.
If we’re matching NIL offers and losing out on players, we have to fire the coach today. That just can’t happen.
Yes. And yes NIL has killed a lot of what we were able to sell.
T&L mentioned this today, and I completely agree. Whether it would move the needle for Lemonis or not is hard to say, but it sure feels like he’s about 3-4 decades behind the times when it comes to understanding what these kids are wanting out of their recruitment
