Have I missed something when it comes to qualifying for College as a student Athlete?

gamecox4982

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It seems not long ago during recruiting you would read where some big time recruit met the academic standards and would have to go JUCO route. I don't think I've heard of anyone not being admitted since Spurrier left. Also, you would hear during Bowl season that some players were out due to grades. Is it just not reported any longer or do they just allow them to play regardless. What's going to happen if Big Joe signs a NIL deal and then doesn't qualify for that school? Does education even matter when were talking student Athlete's? I personally think not.
 

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If I'm wrong, I know someone will correct me. If a junior thinks he won't return and doesn't care about his education (maybe declared for the draft, maybe not), he can stop going to class and doing the work at a certain point and finish the season before the grades catch up to him and he goes on academic probation. These people are not really student athletes, just athletes. It works in their favor because they can get busy training before the combine and pro days, etc. In college basketball it's even worse. A player can practically not go to any classes in his freshman year if he wants to leave at the end of it. This is the "one-and-done" approach that Louisville and some other schools get criticized for. It's just their pre-rookie NBA year, essentially.

Some people are not cut out to be students.
 

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If a junior thinks he won't return, and he isn't really working toward a degree (maybe declared for the draft, maybe not), they can stop going to class and doing the work at a certain point and finish the season before the grades catch up to them and they are on academic probation. These people are not really student athletes, just athletes. In college basketball it's even worse. A player can practically not go to any classes in his freshman year if he wants to leave at the end of it. This is the "one-and-done" approach that Louisville and some other schools have been accused of. It's just their pre-rookie NBA year.

And don't get me wrong. Some people are not cut out to be students.

I asked a question about grades and such in a separate thread. I think a one-and-done basketball player would need to to go class and remain academically eligible for the fall semester, but probably doesn't have to do a lick of academic work in the spring. Do they even have to stick around on campus once the season is over? I wouldn't see why they would.
 

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It seems not long ago during recruiting you would read where some big time recruit met the academic standards and would have to go JUCO route. I don't think I've heard of anyone not being admitted since Spurrier left. Also, you would hear during Bowl season that some players were out due to grades. Is it just not reported any longer or do they just allow them to play regardless. What's going to happen if Big Joe signs a NIL deal and then doesn't qualify for that school? Does education even matter when were talking student Athlete's? I personally think not.
It still happens with recruits, but teams just cut bait earlier these days. Once a kid is known to not be eligible, it's better to just move on to the next one. Can't waste time when you have to recruit the whole country these days. And then prep school is the preferred route over JUCO.

And I would say a lot of big-time recruits get on a similar schedule in high school that they would be in college. Knocking out classes in the summer to lighten the load during the school year. That certainly helps manipulate grades when you can take your hard classes in summer. It's also why so many kids are able to graduate early and reclassify so they can start college for spring practice.
 

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just a few possibilities.

a. learning disabilities. kids can get that tag and be conditionally accepted. UNC (when John Blake was there) got kids into school that never would have sniffed Chapel Hill otherwise.

b. recruiters probably do a better job getting transcripts evaluated so they know if a kid has a prayer of a chance or not.

I think those are the 2 biggest reasons why you don't hear about it as much these days.
 

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It seems not long ago during recruiting you would read where some big time recruit met the academic standards and would have to go JUCO route. I don't think I've heard of anyone not being admitted since Spurrier left. Also, you would hear during Bowl season that some players were out due to grades. Is it just not reported any longer or do they just allow them to play regardless. What's going to happen if Big Joe signs a NIL deal and then doesn't qualify for that school? Does education even matter when were talking student Athlete's? I personally think not.

There's one scenario that you haven't considered. What if more big time athletes have stepped up their academic game and now more of them are meeting the minimum academic requirement? It's been over 30 years now since Prop 48 was instituted, and the culture has had more than three decades to adapt to the changes and expectations. Isn't that a plausible reason for not seeing a large number of DNQs?
 

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Back in the 90s and earlier, graduation rate a big deal for football teams. Coaches would brag about their graduation rate and it was part of the recruiting pitch. It would get reported on in the newspaper. I can't think of the last time I heard graduation rate come up.
 
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There's one scenario that you haven't considered. What if more big time athletes have stepped up their academic game and now more of them are meeting the minimum academic requirement? It's been over 30 years now since Prop 48 was instituted, and the culture has had more than three decades to adapt to the changes and expectations. Isn't that a plausible reason for not seeing a large number of DNQs?
Well I applaud you for a glass half full scenario. BS, but I tip my hat to you for the effort
 
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