
CFB World Reacts To Kirk Herbstreit's Controversial Comment Today
On Saturday morning, ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit made headlines with his comments about the state of the game today. "I just don't
I guess that is what passes for analysis these days, which is to say not much. The author clearly believes the players are in the right, but offers no intelligent commentary as to why. There is a meaningful and interesting debate to be had here, but this article fails to do it. Basically just click bait.![]()
CFB World Reacts To Kirk Herbstreit's Controversial Comment Today
On Saturday morning, ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit made headlines with his comments about the state of the game today. "I just don'tthespun.com
I agree with Herbstreit. I am going to play whether I am a 1st rounder or not. I know how I am constructed. Opt-out not in my vocab. That said, I don’t tell others how to live. But I can judge them based on their decisions![]()
CFB World Reacts To Kirk Herbstreit's Controversial Comment Today
On Saturday morning, ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit made headlines with his comments about the state of the game today. "I just don'tthespun.com
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CFB World Reacts To Kirk Herbstreit's Controversial Comment Today
On Saturday morning, ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit made headlines with his comments about the state of the game today. "I just don'tthespun.com
Is it possible that it's not good for the goose or the gander?Should coaches be able to "opt out" of bowls for greater professional opportunities? Or do we expect more from the student athletes than the professionals leading them?
I mean whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
I suppose today’s college players are just preparing for the pros in everything they do. That behavior you describe is essentially how pro athletes act (generally speaking).From the article:
“I just don’t understand,” Herbstreit said. “If you don’t make it to the Playoff, how is it meaningless to play football and compete? Isn’t that what we do as football players, we compete. I don’t know if expanding it will change anything. I really don’t. I think this era of players just doesn’t love football.”
I can’t argue with him, at least not entirely. It’s clear that opt-outs value their football career more than representing their college team. They value their football, as an individual, meaning their earning potential, over the broader game and all that it represents. Selflessness, playing for the greater good, being true to your school, etc. don’t matter much these days. With the money at stake, I get it to an extent, but it’s bad for college football.
Furthermore, it’s absolutely fair to question character when a player puts himself over his team. College football to many of these kids is merely a means to build a suitable resume (enough game film) to enable a lucrative professional football career.
Possibly. Just seems to be disingenuous to hold unpaid student athletes to a higher professional standard than their coaches.Is it possible that it's not good for the goose or the gander?
I don't think players or coaches should be permitted to opt out or change jobs during the season, including bowl games. I don't like any of it. Not sure how you fix it though at this point short of blowing up the entire system.Should coaches be able to "opt out" of bowls for greater professional opportunities? Or do we expect more from the student athletes than the professionals leading them?
I mean whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Why does the NCAA MBB tournament have 68 teams?Trust me expanding the playoff does nothing to fix it. I don't need to see Pitt vs. Alabama. I know what the result will be. By the 5th week, we know who the best two teams are. All other games are "meaningless" at that point.
Apples and OrangesWhy does the NCAA MBB tournament have 68 teams?
That’s precisely what Adrian Amos said. The nerve of him!Players are finally wising up. Herbie likes them performing for his telecasts for free while he collects an exorbitant salary, whatever it is.
Explain that one to me. The NFL has no authority over college players until they sign pro contracts.There’s a way to strike a deal where everyone is happy, but it will require an ironclad agreement between the NCAA and the NFL.
Yep, make a bachelor's degree a requirement for employment. You'd see a whole lot of changes.There’s a way to strike a deal where everyone is happy, but it will require an ironclad agreement between the NCAA and the NFL.
Correct! Take a sophomore or Junior who declares for the NFL draft and opts out of their bowl game. Is this a cost to the University? Absolutely! The NFL will be recruiting an elite athlete whose skillset was honed and cultivated at the expense of a particular college. Some expenses will be tangible and others intangible and it will be a one time expense. The Cost Department at any college can produce a fiscal model to determine the cost. Trust me, it can be done and they’re rather accurate. The team that drafts this athlete reduces his year 1 contract by this amount and reimburses the school. I’m not talking big money but $150k-$300k depending on the athlete. It’s not meant to be a deterrent, but a system where the athlete can leave and the school compensated. How many kids declared for the draft this year who are not seniors? If done correctly it will withstand any legal challenge.Explain that one to me. The NFL has no authority over college players until they sign pro contracts.
Then you’re either an idiot or a liar. No other possibilities, or at least so I’ve read.For the love of the game. That is why you play. Opting out? Not in my vocabulary either.
I would change kickoff of season to a couple weeks after spring practice. Gives coaches time to get someone from the portal and somewhat familiar with playbook.Let the kids declare for the draft after one season. Fixes this issue.
Create windows for coaches to talk to other teams while still employed.
Create a window for the transfer portal. January 15 until the first kick off of the ensuing season.
These days it is your way or the highway right. So herbstreit is an *** too right? But you know more than herbstreit. You know more than herbstreit when it comes to football opinions. Right? Your so smart. How many high school kids careers ended and never played college. They would dream about playing On a team if not a bowl game. Stop the name callingThen you’re either an idiot or a liar. No other possibilities, or at least so I’ve read.
The “true purpose” of college football is whatever the individual player wants it to be.I see both sides of the issue.
But, how far does this progress? If a kid has a great sophomore season, why would he come back to play any more college football at all? If he isn’t yet eligible for the NFL draft, go the Micah Parsons route and take a year off to train.
Or what happens if I’m Adrian Peterson and rush for almost 2,000 yards as a true freshman? Why would I ever risk anything again when there’s nothing left to prove?
Of course I’m playing devils advocate here … I’m not a fan of any of it.
The question becomes what is the true purpose of college football? Is it to prepare for the NFL and the payday? Or is it to play a game you love at a level 99% of high school kids will never get to? Or is it something else? We all know it’s not an extracurricular for college students.
Easy raz, I’m referencing a post made a few up from yours who said if you say you would play in the game you’re either an idiot or a liar. It’s not my belief. I get guys sitting the games out. I also get playing in them. I’m not really a black or white guy.These days it is your way or the highway right. So herbstreit is an *** too right? But you know more than herbstreit. You know more than herbstreit when it comes to football opinions. Right? Your so smart. How many high school kids careers ended and never played high school. They would dream about playing On a team if not a bowl game. Stop the name calling
Maybe it would be in your vocabulary if you had the skills. Have you ever quit a job for a better one?For the love of the game. That is why you play. Opting out? Not in my vocabulary either.
I know quite a few people that have quit better paying jobs for lower paying jobs. People do it sometimes, just like others played the bowl games at the risk of injury.Maybe it would be in your vocabulary if you had the skills. Have you ever quit a job for a better one?
Oh. Sorry then, you had replied to mine. They can do what they want of course. Everyone has an opinion and it isn’t wrong. Heck look at the Antonio brown. He opted out. Lol.Easy raz, I’m referencing a post made a few up from yours who said if you say you would play in the game you’re either an idiot or a liar. It’s not my belief. I get guys sitting the games out. I also get playing in them. I’m not really a black or white guy.
Lol. Nice and silly attack on my 3rd grade English texting skills. Lol.Maybe it would be in your vocabulary if you had the skills. Have you ever quit a job for a better one?
I meant the football skills.Lol. Nice and silly attack on my 3rd grade English texting skills. Lol.
MO moneyWhy does the NCAA MBB tournament have 68 teams?
I agree with Herbstreit. I am going to play whether I am a 1st rounder or not. I know how I am constructed. Opt-out not in my vocab. That said, I don’t tell others how to live. But I can judge them based on their decisions
Long thread that made many headlines today from a recent Ohio State player:Players are finally wising up. Herbie likes them performing for his telecasts for free while he collects an exorbitant salary, whatever it is.
No problems.Oh. Sorry then, you had replied to mine. They can do what they want of course. Everyone has an opinion and it isn’t wrong. Heck look at the Antonio brown. He opted out. Lol.
I'm not objecting. As stated, I see both sides. I think Kenny Pickett made the right decision. I think most of our guys that opted out made the right decision. If I was "guaranteed" to be playing in the NFL next year prior to a meaningless bowl game, I'd sit out too.The “true purpose” of college football is whatever the individual player wants it to be.
From the standpoint of the major college program and tv, it is to make $.
So why do we object when that is the player’s goal?