I was yelling at the TV during this one. Just impossible that it's missed, I don't care how much time is left.
Here are the members of the officiating crew from Saturday
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I was yelling at the TV during this one. Just impossible that it's missed, I don't care how much time is left.
It must be a board rule that there has to be complaints about the officiating after every game and naturally, the calls all go against PSU. There was nothing in this game that warranted complaints about the stripes. At 41-12, who gives a F if they missed a hold. It didn't lead to anything anyway. If you look at the game as a whole, this crew called more holds than in a weekend's worth of Big Ten games combined. They called a solid game and I saw zero wrong with it.
For those who like to rag on officiating in general, I invite you to put on the stripes and a whistle (or a mask and chest protector) and come on out and do it. You'll gain a bigger appreciation for what goes on.
For those who like to rag on officiating in general, I invite you to put on the stripes and a whistle (or a mask and chest protector) and come on out and do it. You'll gain a bigger appreciation for what goes on.
A penalty is a penalty no matter the score or time on the clock. Penalties are in place to protect the players.
"The salaries of College Football Referees in the US range from $46,753 to $314,406 , with a median salary of $57,014 . The middle 57% of College Football Referees makes between $57,015 and $142,490, with the top 86% making $314,406."
I'll wear a striped shirt for 3 hours a week for 4 months for that kind of money to not care!
No? Check it out. It was a classic soccer flop. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t held also, but he flipped for sure. In the NHL, that would be have 2 minutes for holding on Auburn, 2 minutes for unsportsmanlike conduct (diving) on Penn State.
A lot of holding/takedowns and movement by Auburns OL. One of PSU's players near the end of the game complained to the official and the official pointed to the scoreboard as if to say look at the score and the time remaining. I know because I was there.
Oh yeah? Pls stand ready to observe as the sky fills with yellow cloth when one of our guys hits a Buckeye or a 'Verine in the same manner. Note: You heard it here first.
He probably spit on the dude in front of him while trying to whistle through his tooth?
fighting poorly in their polos, lolHe probably spit on the dude in front of him while trying to whistle through his tooth?
I had no issue with the officiating on Saturday. Your attempt to defend bad calls by officials by inviting those who criticize those calls by trying to officiate themselves is nonsense however.
Those parents just doing their best Angel Hernandez impression! You know I'm right.
Refs at the high school level suck and are making biased calls against their team…refs at the upper echelon of Division 1 college football suck and are biased against their team…NFL refs suck and are biased against their team.
Somehow, they even have the ability to be biased against both teams since fans on both sides think their team got hosed.
I know this might be crazy to say…but, maybe it isn’t actually the refs.
Well there was one time where they called PSU for a false start and most of the players were not even at the line or in their stance yet? I must have missed something there?
There was some pretty egregious holding going on. Auburn could have been flagged 4 or 5 times for taunting. There was some pretty varied use of the defensive PI penalty. Offside was another subjective call including one KO where Auburn had a gunner downfield. Missed a horse collar on Singleton.
just off the top of my head.
How dare you? CDLionFL is laughing at you right now because officials are beyond criticism unlike those working in every other field I am aware of.
Assume you're talking about the false start on Wormley early in the 2nd quarter...on that one, 10 of our guys were still upright, but Wormley had already put his hand on the turf. He then picked it up to turn and lookback when Clifford was changing the protection, which made it a false start.
There were 16 penalties called in the game...how many more do you think should have been called? Would 30 penalties had made for a cleaner game? And if you're going to say that Auburn should have been called 4 or 5 times for taunting, can I assume that you think our secondary should have been called about 8-10 times for it? We're brutal when it comes to taunting, but luckily the refs have been pretty liberal with it the first 3 games.
(Note that I did agree with that offside on the kickoff that they missed...they'll give guys the benefit of the doubt, but that one was well off).
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After rereading your post, you certainly weren't harsh like many others...it just amazes me that so many think that referees that have made it to the Big Ten level are incompetent, corrupt, one-sided, etc. These guys are near the top of their profession. Maybe people should realize that officiating a football game is a pretty tough thing to do, and these guys are better at it than 99.9% of the people trying to do it in America today.
Did you notice Penn State get away with anything? Or was is just completely biased for Auburn?
I watch Penn State play every week and I’d say it is pretty even between the number of times I scream, “I can’t believe they didn’t call that!” against the opponent and “Thank god they didn’t call that!” on Penn State.
The egregious holding non-calls happen in every game, every week. It annoys me as much as you but I don’t think it’s ignored more for the opponents than for Penn State. There is stuff that I have seen complaining about in here that drives me insane but that refs have seemingly just stopped calling for some reason. I see defensive ends lined up in the neutral zone all game long and I see offensive tackles move a fraction of a second early all game long. Very rarely gets called and I have no idea why. But I don’t think it’s ignored just for Penn State’s opponents.
Did Auburn line up in the neutral zone more or less than PSU pulled their interior linemen on running plays?
Im just watching this on my small phone screen but it looks like the ball does get stuck under the padding and the left fielder raises his hand (not both, mind you) to indicate that it’s stuck. Am I seeing that wrong?
I agree completely…it’s not a wrong call, but people see Hernandez and assume it’s wrong…odd play as it’s not a trouble ball so no one is moving out to cover it, but you’d like to see one of the closer guys calling it (or at least echoing it).
I don't think you really get the point he was making. It's not that officials are beyond criticism. He is criticizing the constant obsession that some of our fans have with officials. Refs are going to make mistakes- they aren't perfect. There were no calls that dramatically affected this game, so really no need for a post dedicated to calling them out.
Yes I was surprised the the PSU wr (don’t remember who) did not get called for holding on Singletons long TD.
Regarding the # of penalties. Understand your point, and no I do not wish for more flags. What I would like is consistent application of rules. In Baseball if the ump is calling inside strikes for both teams so be it.
Thanks for the technical explanation on the false start. I guess my question would be is that really a necessary call when most of the line wasn’t even lined up or facing downfield?
I started out my post by agreeing with him about officiating not being an issue on Saturday. I also rarely if ever criticize officiating. My simple point is that trying to “defend” officiating by saying those who criticize should try officiating before criticizing is nonsense—people in all professions are subject to criticism by those who don’t work in those professions.
Yeah, I think you are making way to big of a deal over the "you should try officiating" part. Focus on the bigger point.
...in your opinion and that of the refs. IMO? Unnecessary roughness, hit to the head & because of that, potential targeting. IMO
So you’d just make up a rule?
There are two different instances where Targeting can be called. One involves a defenseless player, which Clifford obviously wasn’t. The other involves using the crown of the helmet, which clearly wasn’t the case.
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