he's had chances to leave every season and he has stayed. Dude is loyal within reason (I'm sure extra $$ didn't hurt). I'm glad we returned the favor.
Here's the thing I like about Arnett...
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We could always have just paid him top 3 DC money in the SEC.
But, I’m not going to be critical of the hire publicly. I totally get it and I’m all in.
But, I’m not going to be critical of the hire publicly. I totally get it and I’m all in.
And if he meets another other HC on the recruiting trail, he'd smash 'em (except maybe Beamer?). New bumper sticker, "Our Coach can beat up your Coach."
Agreed. And that's another of the million things I love about Mike Leach. He brought in talent on his staff and kept it. Grew uncomfortably accustomed to the constant shuffle of defensive coordinators because no one could stand to work for Mullen. Leach treated his guys with respect and it shows. Now let's go get an OC from his tree and make him proud.
As long as no one claims he should win 10 games next season, I'm on board.
I think we have great shot at 10 games. Hell, if we catch fire and build momentum, we could win all 12. But another 8, possible 9 win season and a victory over OM and you can paint the whole season in Maroon and White.
It feels weird / insensitive to say this... all happening to soon... but I think the opportunity for him to coach this bowl game will be a huge benefit heading into next season. Sort of a dry run before the real thing next September. And I don't think the outcome will affect our opinion of Arnett either way (unless we pull off a 2010 gator bowl type beatdown)
For those who want more intensity...Hope it works out. Damn if all this didn't happen too quickly, but I understand. Hopefully he hires good a good OC who can guide us with a Leach-like air raid until we get the personnel for a new identity. I'm so used to having powerful running backs as a long-time State fan. But, I like the Air Raid now. Maybe a few more rushing attemps per game but it's grown on me. Hope he gets a good DC. RIP Leach. Hope another of your proteges adds to your legacy of producing good head coaches.
I don't know guys. This is an extremely delicate situation that no other program has ever had to deal with before. And I understand the desire to want to keep the team and recruits intact. But I learned my lesson on hiring up and coming coordinators. We got lucky with Mullen, but got our *** burned with Moorhead. A proven head coach like Leach is what I'd like to see done. Take your time, hire an AD in January if you have to, and then make the hire. Maybe Arnett is the right guy. But this has Bracky Brett written all over it.
Call me crazy but I'd like to take a shot with Primetime. Dude is a hell of a recruiter, and anyone who can go 12-0 at Jackson State is a winner. He would jump at the chance to coach in the SEC, for the pay and the challenge. He is a proven competitor. Coaches have left programs before ever coaching a game, so it could be done. And if he goes belly up who could blame us? It's not like we fired Coach Leach and took a chance with Primetime. We have our backs against the wall. No one has ever had to deal with what we're dealing with. If you were ever going to make a hire like Deion, these are the circumstances you'd do it under. He'd come in on day one and have the locker room on fire.
There is really no obvious answer in this scenario. All choices have their risks here. All the fans can do is get behind whatever is decided and we will go from there. If it's a bust, it's a bust. S**T happens.
You said to, so I'm officially calling you crazy.
The decision is made. Only choice now is get behind it. Would all hands on deck be too dumb for me to say here? Intense defensive coordinator now our head coach. I am 100% behind it.
It's all in the timing. Colorado JUST hired him. It'd be shiti of us to go after him (if that was ever a thought) and it would be even shitier on his part to walk out after just being hired.
Week 4 of next season you'll see why Deion and his son isn't the answer
You might want to revisit our hiring of ZA the first time.
Who is the OC? That's my question? Who does Keenum/Arnett go get? And how much do we throw at them?
And do we have to stick with air raid? Or can we go to legit RPO? Like something Wake runs?
And do we have to stick with air raid? Or can we go to legit RPO? Like something Wake runs?
Prime was not coming as he just signed with Col and convinced many recruits to enter the transfer portal to Col
Zach and his agent still maintain that what he signed for Syracuse was only a compensation agreement, not a final contract.
Hopefully, we play it smarter.
Yeah but it’s already a done deal. If it doesn’t work out we lost one of the best DCs in the country.
You say you don’t like up and coming coordinators but instead suggest we go with an up and coming head coach.
I agree with you but from what I’ve heard from AU sources we were a day or two away - like yesterday, Tuesday, from Arnett being announced as AU’s new DC.
But he’s got AU sources**
Just take a message and deliver it to him from Shmuley: "Dear Senator Keenum, get your a s s to Winston-Salem and grab Ruggerio by the neck, tell him he's getting $1.5 million, rassle him onto CHKN 1 and fly his a s s to Starkville for the announcement."
This is about continuity and building...he'll stick with the air raid... it'll evolve some to include more running as that was the direction CML was going...
I like this. He's never had a season as a coach that he didn't coach in a bowl game...
BOWL GAMES AS A COACH
2021 Liberty Bowl (Mississippi State)
2020 Armed Forces Bowl (Mississippi State)
2019 New Mexico Bowl (San Diego State)
2018 Frisco Bowl (San Diego State)
2017 Armed Forces Bowl (San Diego State)
2016 Las Vegas Bowl (San Diego State)
2015 Hawai’i Bowl (San Diego State)
2014 Poinsettia Bowl (San Diego State)
2013 Potato Bowl (San Diego State)
2012 Poinsettia Bowl (San Diego State)
2011 New Orleans Bowl (San Diego State)
BOWL GAMES AS A COACH
2021 Liberty Bowl (Mississippi State)
2020 Armed Forces Bowl (Mississippi State)
2019 New Mexico Bowl (San Diego State)
2018 Frisco Bowl (San Diego State)
2017 Armed Forces Bowl (San Diego State)
2016 Las Vegas Bowl (San Diego State)
2015 Hawai’i Bowl (San Diego State)
2014 Poinsettia Bowl (San Diego State)
2013 Potato Bowl (San Diego State)
2012 Poinsettia Bowl (San Diego State)
2011 New Orleans Bowl (San Diego State)
I’m just saying this has all the makings of a Matt Luke 2.0. Bracky Brett approved.You say you don’t like up and coming coordinators but instead suggest we go with an up and coming head coach.
Cmon. Arnett is a proven DC and will for sure have the D in great shape. Matt Luke was an Oline coach. I get they are both assistants already on the team but they really aren’t that similar elsewhere. Arnett is a risk like any MSU hire. Matt Luke was a placeholder.
I didn't think we hired a position coach who graduated from State and was close with several boosters....
Think what you want to but Arnett was about to be the next AU DC.
And he was hired to get them through probation. Not a serious HC hire.
Arnett is a defensive guy. Defensive head coaches bring a certain culture that I tend to like as long as they leave the offense to the offensive staff. I believe Arnett appreciated being allowed to be his own man as d coordinator and he’ll do the same for his o-coordinator. Win/win
I disagree.
Zach worked under/with Mike Leach for 3 years. Have you taken a look at the list of folks who had Leach as a mentor?
I think this was a great move.
Not at all. He's not a defensive line coach and you probably enjoyed watching his defense.
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