High school pitcher Will Bearden - Anyone ever heard of him?

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Ok, I'm just a lurker and never post, but after our big regional win my friend and I were talking about baseball at lunch today and he started talking about high school players that he's seen play this spring. He's a former Memphis player and is pretty involved in the local baseball scene here. I'd heard of several of the players he mentioned who were from the Memphis and N. Miss area but not of Bearden.<div>
</div><div>My buddy raved about the kid, saying he was lefty pitcher with some size and really good velocity, and that he looked like he swung the bat pretty good as well.He said couldn't remember where he saw him play (thought maybe in the AR or MS delta area?). He alsosaid he wasn't sure if Memphis was recruiting him but that they should be.</div><div>
</div><div>Anyone ever heard of him or know anything about him? I'm just curious because I've never heard his name brought up before.</div>
 

mleike

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Ok, I'm just a lurker and never post, but after our big regional win my friend and I were talking about baseball at lunch today and he started talking about high school players that he's seen play this spring. He's a former Memphis player and is pretty involved in the local baseball scene here. I'd heard of several of the players he mentioned who were from the Memphis and N. Miss area but not of Bearden.<div>
</div><div>My buddy raved about the kid, saying he was lefty pitcher with some size and really good velocity, and that he looked like he swung the bat pretty good as well.He said couldn't remember where he saw him play (thought maybe in the AR or MS delta area?). He alsosaid he wasn't sure if Memphis was recruiting him but that they should be.</div><div>
</div><div>Anyone ever heard of him or know anything about him? I'm just curious because I've never heard his name brought up before.</div>
 

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He used to play at Manchester Academy in Yazoo City, but I think he recently moved.

I've heard a little bit about him, but a lot of it seems to be urban legend type stuff, and I have never seen him play.
 

mleike

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Thanks for the reply. My buddy was pretty high on him. Said he was very solid, but he didn't mention any "urban legend" type stories. Although if a kid has enough talent that others are spreading crazy rumors there must be something happening worthy to take a look at.

Maybe he will end up being another kid plucked from the obscurity of a small MS town that goes on to do something in the pros. Or this could be the first and last time I ever hear mention of him. I guess you never know.
 

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I know of Will. He is a 6'3" 190 lb 2012 graduate.He goes to ManchesterAcademy. He is an outfielder-pitcher. He runs in the 6.8-6.9 range in the 60 and throws in the upper 80's. He hits with power. A few colleges are taking a look at him. He is playing with a showcase team out of Jackson this summer. Also he was chosen to play in a teamone showcase in Atlanta. Hopefully he will show good enough to have a chance to go to Chicago and play in the teamone showcase at Wrigley Field. The scouts that have watched him play have been impressed with his abilities. Don't know how things will turn out for him, because for some reason if you play in the academy ranks colleges don't take a real good look at you. If you do have a child you think can playat the nextlevel you have got to market them, especially if they play in the academy ranks. I may be a little biased on Will's abilities because I am his grandfather but he is a good ballplayer and coaches are starting to take a closer look at him. If you have a son you think is good enough to play at the next level in baseball one of the best ways I know of isto get a good assessment of his abilities is take him to a showcase and they will give you and unbiased opinion. The best I think is under armour who is affiliated with baseball factory.
 

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First of all good luck to your grandson. Next, you are right a big part of getting a scholarship is promotion. I disagree with your thoughts on Baseball Factory. Unless you think he has a chance to go pro, its a waste of money. I coach a summer league team in MS and as long as he gets on a fairly credible one, he will get seen. The best tourney to have him play in is the WWBA tournament in Marrieta, GA. Also, I don't agree with what you say about academy players. The best academy players routinely get signed by State OM or USM in MS. Honestly, most coaches could care less about where they play HS, it is all about the summer circuit, and making sure that he goes to camps. I would make sure he was signed up to any college camp that he was interested in going to.
 

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Most of their players have had a difficult time adjusting to D-I ball. Look at Caleb Reed's first two years with us and Hunter Renfroe this year. And yes, most of the public school players in Mississippi have also had a difficult time adjusting as well. It just takes them a year or two in general to get their feet under them.
 

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Richard Lee and Eric Dubose adjusted quickly from MPSA schools. Paul Maholm started as a MPSA player. Seth Smith, StephenHead, and Jake Morgan didn't need much time to dominate the SEC at Ole Miss. I think lots of guys have to develop for a year or two, while others can come right in and dominate. My opinion is it has more to do with the player, not the league.
 

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From Isola, MS. Attended Humphreys Academy until his senior season and then transferred to Manchester Academy. Talented kid but needs to get his attitude right.
 

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Smells like a poorly disguised intentional "pump the kid who ain't getting as much love as we think he should be getting" thread.
 

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Bearden's Breader is sure some fine fried catfish coating mix. Best I ever had in fact......

If the kid can thread the needle with a baseball like his kinfolks bread catfish, I'm all for giving him a look.

Fried Catfish is good eatin'.... Yum Yum......
 

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Lee actually had to adjust more than people remember. His defense was pretty bad his freshman year and he only hit two home runs.

I thought Maholm started out at Germantown or somewhere like that? I can't remember.

DuBose actually pitched for an Alabama private school, but the caliber is about the same- certainly splitting hairs there.

I think Smith and Head were more a product of Levall Woods and the demise of Forest Hill baseball as much as anything. But they certainly were immediate impact guys.

Morgan redshirted, I believe.

If you notice, most of the guys you listed were from several years back. I have to wonder if the private schools have somehow gotten worse in baseball? Hillcrest could compete with anyone back in the day.
 

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and then went to Germantown his senior year for better competition. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Todd4State said:
Lee actually had to adjust more than people remember.
I think Smith and Head were more a product of Levall Woods and the demise of Forest Hill baseball as much as anything. But they certainly were immediate impact guys.



If you notice, most of the guys you listed were from several years back. I have to wonder if the private schools have somehow gotten worse in baseball? Hillcrest could compete with anyone back in the day.


Seth never played at Leavell Woods. He stayed at Forest Hill through all the years we were dominating them, which was from 5-6 years old, until we all played together at HC. I know, in my career there(same exact career as Stephen's), we lost exactly ONE game to FH. Probably 40, maybe 50-1. We weren't playing Seth's team every year though, because he was one year older than us.

HC has definitely gone downhill from a fundamental and development standpoint. That part was a given when Wy left...were more polished out of HS than after several years in college, with Cody being the only exception. It's not that "private schools have gotten worse" so much as those guys were just rare talents, with a new "open-minded" coach at OM that allowed them to come in and immediately succeed to the highest level they were capable of. Wouldn't have happened in Starkville at that point(that's a whole 'nother topic)...

Give Jay Powell a few years at JA...he'll produce some serious pitching prospects.
 

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...during Dubose's junior and senior years at the school. BJ Wallace attended Monroe Academy in Monroeville, which is a member of AISA.
 

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Todd4State said:
I thought Maholm started out at Germantown or somewhere like that? I can't remember.

DuBose actually pitched for an Alabama private school, but the caliber is about the same- certainly splitting hairs there.
Maholm was originally at Marshall Academy.

DuBose did pitch for an Alabama private school, but they competed in the Mississippi Private School Association. Hence, they were an MPSA school.
 

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a traditional powerhouse in the ASC Conference(Miss College's conference). They got as high as #3 in d3 this his first season, at one point like 28-0, but faded at the end of the year. Still won the regular season conference title, but had a few key injuries and losses toward the end that really hurt them in the regionals and their conference tourney.

I'll go in great detail in a new thread at a later time on the nature of State's recruiting, in regards to Hillcrest...
Basically, they never much looked at Seth, due to his football scholarship at OM. Didn't look at Dustin Cliburn either when he signed with OM out of MCC(was a HC grad)Polk "wanted" Stephen. Asked him to come on an official visit during football season(Oct) of our SENIOR year. This is WAY past when he would have to sign elsewhere, and had Stephen waited, all his other offers would have gone away, and that didn't even guarantee Polk would offer him. It pissed him off at the time. Stephen grew up a State and LSU fan. OM wasn't even on his radar until Bianco/McDonell arrived on campus. Stephen had opened everyone's eyes in the East Coast Showcase after his junior year. In that one weekend, he went from a few occasional calls, to absolute recruiting/scouting insanity. OM and South Carolina were in the "lead" with him, mainly because he loved Dan McDonell and Ray Tanner. Really, really loved Tanner. Raffo was basically an absentee to all the events of this. During that time, he and Brian Pettway became really good friends(Pettway was considered the best hitter in the state out of hs in several years). They decided they wanted to play together, as they were getting all of the same offers. Ultimately, Pettway decided he wanted to stay in MS and go to OM and Stephen went with him. State never really went after either of them. The way Polk handled it left a chip on Stephen's shoulder to say the least. Once Stephen went and had his freshman success, following Seth's freshman success, the pipeline was established, and that was that. Cody and Logan never even much gave State a chance, which tells you just how badly State quit recruiting(Logan would've been a legacy player at State). The only player out of the HC pipeline that ended up actually signing with and going to State was Daniel Tackett, which was 100% because Shoenrock saw him play in the Juco showcase, and they signed him directly out of that...

The whole time, State oozed the "we're so good, they should just come to us" mentality, while OM, particularly Dan, was coming after us hard. Dan was at over HALF of our highschool games. 180 miles one way. NEVER, EVER saw Polk or Raffo. At least that's what it looked like from our perspective. It was my lifelong goal to play at State, and by the end of my senior year, I was good enough. My problem was basically that I developed far too late for recruiting, as I didn't begin catching until between soph and junior seasons, while not being a starter at HC until my senior year. Still managed to clean up on the all mpsa, all-metro, district, allstar teams, etc...and still wasn't fully comfortable behind the plate. Anyway, I was offered an "invited walk-on" by Polk, but didn't take it, and went the juco route...only to get lost in the amazing lack of exposure and coaching in those ranks(another topic as well). The reason I didn't accept was because Polk had become well-known for getting good players that were "life-long bulldogs" with other decent offers onto campus, under the guise of "invited walk on" where he tells you "you've got a spot on the team, we just don't have any more scholarships available(insert 5 min NCAA/titleIX rant), but if you perform well, you can go on scholarship next semester" only to turn around and cut these guys, leaving them with nothing, when they could've been playing/starting elsewhere. After the 2nd or 3rd guy we heard about this happening to, it wasn't worth the risk. I had the same chance at OM. Had I known then what I know now(this was 2002, and they were still a bottom SEC program, with a small stadium and no fans), I would've been a Rebel as well. No doubt about it....

And that's the shortest version of what happened to State's program that I can make. This should connect the dots on how the recruiting failure on Stephen, and a bunch of other players like him, played a major role in kickstarting OM's program...and burying ours for a decade(sans one lightning in a bottle moment in 2007). We're still not "back" and won't be until Dudy Noble has 4-5k people at the midweek games, but this season was an excellent start.
 

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was who I wanted Cohen to hire as our pitching coach when he was hired. I think Powell's wife likes living in Northeast Jackson though.

He has already produced Will Denny who made the All-State team as a junior. Unfortunately for us, Denny has some big time Ole Miss ties. But, maybe Jay can steer some guys in our direction in the future. I know that Powell has close ties to Cohen and the coaching staff as it is and he does help us out by evaluating players at times. He is a great resource for us, and it's great that our coaches think outside the box now and use him.
 

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of how Polk sent our program down the toilet. It used to drive me nuts because you could see what was going to eventually happen- which was the bottom was eventually going to fall out- see 2008.

What happened at HC also happened across the state- asyou said, and really even extended to other State fans as well. Ole Miss had actually started thier pipeline to HC when they signed Glen Morris, though- just my opinion. I do think that us not recruiting the others such as Head and Cody Satterwhite caused the pipe to be wide open.

I'm really not sure if we ever really had a chance with Seth Smith, though. But Head, definately.
 

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because it was a completely different regime in place in Oxford at that time...AND at State...because we had players sign at all 3 universities in that era...Glen to OM, Dusty Haley to USM, and Justin Estel to State. Dan McDonell was the catalyst to the actual "pipeline." Otherwise, everyone would have been spread out just like the above guys were. He saw polished talent that would be coming in ready to play immediately, and he capitalized on it....

Seth was going to OM regardless. Baseball was the last thing on his mind at the time. He was going as a quarterback that was going to "tryout" for baseball, while basketball and soccer both crossed his mind more than once(yes, he was that good of athlete). His girl(now wife) was a year older than him and was already in school up there. Only chance we'd have had of getting him was to have Jackie giving him a call back in 99/2000.

Jay Powell is the real deal. He was the one really helping Stephen's pitching comeback over the winter. He threw bullpens at JA twice a week for the months of December and January, while doing Jay's workout plans. After having not thrown for 5 years, he was consistent 92-94 for the Rockies, after being an 87-89, occasionally 91, guy throughout college. This was solely attributable to Jay's workouts and some minor mechanical tweaks...
 

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I met Justin shortly after he left MSU. I don't like to pile on but Estil had zero good to say about State. I believe Estil pitched for Pat Mac and not Polk II, but I could be wrong on this point.