The Cotton bowl has historically and always will be considered a NYD bowl. Don't compare the liberty and Cotton because of the current dates they are played on, (compare the 2007 and 2009 teams is fine) but for God's sake don't compare the 2 bowls. Youre better than that. And you didn't address the question...is the Cotton bowl not the pinnacle for OM and MSU in the modern era? The same bowl we have been to 3 times in 7 years.
Houston Nutt has done a fantastic job of developing Sneed...
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Ole Miss fans are so <17>ing uptight today, y'all can't take a little poking fun at.
To answer your question, going to the SECC in 1998 was the pinnacle for the modern era.
To answer your question, going to the SECC in 1998 was the pinnacle for the modern era.
1. The Peach Bowl's payout is almost 2x the Cotton Bowl payout.
2. How irrelevant is Umiss? There has never been a men's SEC championship team from the University of Mississippi that was integrated. That is correct. The only SEC champions from your school were white boys.
That is irrelevant.
So keep dreaming of a white Christmas, just like the ones you used to know.
2. How irrelevant is Umiss? There has never been a men's SEC championship team from the University of Mississippi that was integrated. That is correct. The only SEC champions from your school were white boys.
That is irrelevant.
So keep dreaming of a white Christmas, just like the ones you used to know.
but to answer your question: I don't see the point in removing the SEC title game from the equation, so I won't. Going to Atlanta in 1998 was the pinnacle for Mississippi State football in the modern era. Going to the Cotton Bowl that year was kind of a let down.
Not one Rebel has refuted, with any conviction, that Sneed has not developed under Nutt. What does this say about Nutt? What does this mean for future recruiting of QBs? Will a quality QB want to come to Oxford after Nutt has wasted potential NFL talent (by not improving him)? Before you talk about State's QB situation, we do have Russell, who was offered by several schools, including Bama. And Mullen has shown in the past he can develop QB's (I won't go down the list of successes for times sake.)</p>
This one did:
http://mississippi.scout....=177&p=8&c=1&nid=3567241
As well as this one:
http://mississippi.scout....=177&p=8&c=1&nid=4090597
If you are in to stars, that is two four star QBs.
http://mississippi.scout....=177&p=8&c=1&nid=3567241
As well as this one:
http://mississippi.scout....=177&p=8&c=1&nid=4090597
If you are in to stars, that is two four star QBs.
I may be totally off on my facts, but I don't think the Cotton bowl we played in is equal to what it has become today. Was our Cotton Bowl pre-BCS? I do remember it was on New Years day and I believe Texas was in the top 10. I don't remember what we were ranked, but we were top 20 weren;t we? I don't think the word "New Year's Day bowl" is a relevant term anymore. There are BCS bowls and then there are bowls. A few non-bcs bowls have separated themselves. The Citrus is one. You had two top 12 teams in LSU & Penn St. I wouldn't call a bowl game that has an unranked Ole Miss playing 16th ranked Okie St a "New Year's Bowl game" in the traditional sense of the word. Don't get me wrong. I would love to be there next year, but I would take the Peach, Outback, or Music City and not feel any lower that the Cotton.
My post was more to the fact that being 5'11" may not be as great a hinderance as some would think.
It will mean even less next year when the SEC picks up the gator.
Legitimate question? Was the Cotton Bowl higher in the SEC pecking order back in the day? Has it basically always been 3rd behind sugar and cap one? Granted last year obviously two very good teams were in it, but this year two mediocre teams were in it? Which year was the fluke (or were both)?
Legitimate question? Was the Cotton Bowl higher in the SEC pecking order back in the day? Has it basically always been 3rd behind sugar and cap one? Granted last year obviously two very good teams were in it, but this year two mediocre teams were in it? Which year was the fluke (or were both)?
The cotton gets the 3rd best SEC team, except for one when the SEC gets 2 in the BCS. Usually the 3rd best SEC team is a 15-20 ranked type team. Numerous times the West champion has played in the Cotton. If u want to downplay the prestige of the Cotton, that's fine. But the fact is, its the best modern era bowl MSU has ever played in. Ole Miss has played in it 3 times in 7 years.
Hey buddy, I just looked it up, too bad Ole Miss hasn't had anyone worth a **** or should I say a whole team worth a **** to make it to Atlanta for a thing they call the SEC championship game. You wouldn't know anything about that, but you thought you were going to find out this year but ya choked. Considering the position y'all were in at one point in the season, I wouldn't be just ecstatic about the Cotton bowl victory. Well nevermind, I probably would, b/c if for some strange reason y'all would have not choked away that #4 ranking and made the Sugar Bowl (you never had a shot at the NC) you probably would have gotten embarrassed with the effort the mighty rebels gave today.BigLeagueChew said:
rebel law said:
Now, I know that we haven't been to one, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be the goal for either one of us. My "dream" bowl is hardly to be the third or fourth pick bowl out of the SEC.
the delta dawg said:
You would take the Cotton Bowl over the Peach and Music City Bowls every day and twice on Sunday, and 17 you for being stupid enough to even type that you wouldn't. That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a very long time. Now, I might actually give you the Outback Bowl. The Cotton Bowl and the Outback Bowl basically get the 3rd and 4th best teams in the SEC each year, with the Outback historically taking from the East and the Cotton from the West. The Peach gets the 5th best team. As in they pick after those two bowls. I know ticket sales have a lot to do with it, but he SEC is generally good about getting their top 4-5 teams in actual order, or at least have been the past several years. The Music City gets something like the 8th selection. Have you not noticed Kentucky's badass football program setting up camp there this decade?
The Citrus Bowl/Capital One bowl is the next best bowl not BCS easily. The Outback and Cotton Bowls are right there after that. I do think the Peach is still up there as well. Are you really going to argue that tv monetary reasons moving the Cotton Bowl to Jan 2 put it on par with the Music City Bowl? Seriously, Ill take a case of whatever you are on right now. Since it is apparently that good, ill pay 2x for it...
On that note, did anyone else hear about Spurrier getting a January bowl bonus for making the PapaJohns.com Bowl.
I'm sure that when they put in that clause, they meant for the bonus to be given for making a traditional NYD bowl (BCS Bowl, Cap One, Cotton, Outback, Gator), but with the way it was worded in his contract, it didn't specify the bowls, just called the bonus for making a "January" bowl, and with the way scheduling has changed for bowl games, he would've gotten the bonus for the Liberty or PapaJohns.com this year.
They're going to have to re-word that.
On a side note, I know you're poking fun about NYD bowls, but you all know what the traditional NYD bowls are.
I'm sure that when they put in that clause, they meant for the bonus to be given for making a traditional NYD bowl (BCS Bowl, Cap One, Cotton, Outback, Gator), but with the way it was worded in his contract, it didn't specify the bowls, just called the bonus for making a "January" bowl, and with the way scheduling has changed for bowl games, he would've gotten the bonus for the Liberty or PapaJohns.com this year.
They're going to have to re-word that.
On a side note, I know you're poking fun about NYD bowls, but you all know what the traditional NYD bowls are.
Todd4State said:
I agree with you. The goal is the "Sugah Bow", nod to Coach O, but traditional NYD bowls (Cotton or Gator) are the best either of our programs have done since our last Sugar Bowl. Therefore, I can be happy with a Cotton Bowl and realize that it's a big accomplishment for our program considering history.