How da fook is Georgia not the #1 SEC team?

[OG Goat Holder]

Beat Texas at Texas. Lost 2 games on the road to top teams. Either they are trying to project who will win the SEC (which is stupid because Texas won’t) or they are stupid. I suppose Georgia could get screwed by the SEC chip game tiebreaker but it’s proving that the committee is still sorta looking at record and paper strength, rather than what happens on the field.

Home losses should hurt more than road losses. Committee doesn’t get football. Georgia has the best 2 losses and are obviously better than Texas.

Tennessee should be over Ole Miss too.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Georgia has virtually no chance of playing in the SEC championship. That’s why they don’t have the bye. They are only ranked behind OM and Bama (who both beat them soundly) as far as the at large teams from the SEC.

If Texas beats Bama in Atlanta, Georgia moves ahead of Bama. If Bama beats Texas, Georgia moves ahead of Texas. If Texas A&M beats Bama, Georgia moves ahead of Bama. If Bama beats Texas A&M, nothing changes as they are already ahead of Texas A&M.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Georgia has virtually no chance of playing in the SEC championship. That’s why they don’t have the bye. They are only ranked behind OM and Bama (who both beat them soundly) as far as the at large teams from the SEC.

If Texas beats Bama in Atlanta, Georgia moves ahead of Bama. If Bama beats Texas, Georgia moves ahead of Texas. If Texas A&M beats Bama, Georgia moves ahead of Bama. If Bama beats Texas A&M, nothing changes as they are already ahead of Texas A&M.

Assuming no weirdness. But even if chalk, Bama will beat Texas constant Bama the top?

Either way Georgia is still the top team.

 

[11thEagleFan]

There is no “top” team in the SEC this year. Any of the top 6-7 teams could beat one another. Also disagree that Tennessee should be above Ole Miss. Almost all the metrics favor OM. I wish people would stop arguing the point, because I feel gross defending the Confederates.

 

[8dog]

Georgias resume is the clear top one. I agree.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Georgias resume is the clear top one. I agree.

Another reason conference title games should go away. At least as long as we are playing these grossly uneven conference schedules.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

There is no “top” team in the SEC this year. Any of the top 6-7 teams could beat one another. Also disagree that Tennessee should be above Ole Miss. Almost all the metrics favor OM. I wish people would stop arguing the point, because I feel gross defending the Confederates.

Tennessee has a big win, as Ole Miss does. And 2 better losses. It’s not close.

 

[onewoof]

Georgias resume is the clear top one. I agree.

No contest.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Assuming no weirdness. But even if chalk, Bama will beat Texas constant Bama the top?

Either way Georgia is still the top team.

Georgia being the top team doesn’t really matter if they can’t get the bye. The committee is just ranking things as they sit right now. If Bama beats Texas, their resume would blow Georgia’s away. Same if Texas beats Bama. Right now they are ranked where they should be.

 

[Bullldawg78]

But the real question is which team had moral victories on the road against both Texas and Georgia? I'll give you a hint......*****

 

[onewoof]

But the real question is which team had moral victories on the road against both Texas and Georgia? I'll give you a hint......*****

We need a moral victory seeding

 

[DWarren]

Tennessee has a big win, as Ole Miss does. And 2 better losses. It’s not close.

The problem for TN is that their Bama win is equal to OM's UGA win but TN doesn't have a secondary win that matches a 20 point win on the road against a top 20 ranked SC.

Also the committee has admitted that they place a large emphasis on eye test vs common opponents and head to head matchups (not saying thats right or wrong but thats the decision they've made). TN lost to the same UGA team that OM beat by 18 and they also lost to the same Arkansas team that OM beat by 30 points a couple weeks later.

 

[HuntDawg]

The problem for TN is that their Bama win is equal to OM's UGA win but TN doesn't have a secondary win that matches a 20 point win on the road against a top 20 ranked SC.

Also the committee has admitted that they place a large emphasis on eye test vs common opponents and head to head matchups (not saying thats right or wrong but thats the decision they've made). TN lost to the same UGA team that OM beat by 18 and they also lost to the same Arkansas team that OM beat by 30 points a couple weeks later.

the TN resume is far and away the worst resume of the 2 loss sec teams that are in the top of the rankings. Pretty much anyone with football common sense that isnt a tennesee fan or GOAT realizes this.

 

[NukeDogg]

The problem for TN is that their Bama win is equal to OM's UGA win but TN doesn't have a secondary win that matches a 20 point win on the road against a top 20 ranked SC.

Also the committee has admitted that they place a large emphasis on eye test vs common opponents and head to head matchups (not saying thats right or wrong but thats the decision they've made). TN lost to the same UGA team that OM beat by 18 and they also lost to the same Arkansas team that OM beat by 30 points a couple weeks later.

This second part is yuge. No way anyone should have TN over OM

 

[8dog]

If there is a logjam at 6-2/10-2 in the sec it seems like SOS should be a big factor. Which is why Georgia should be the top SEC team as of now. The only reason Bama or OM Geri to head to head arguments against Georgia is bc Georgias schedule was so much tougher than theirs.
I agree the TN resume is weak but it should also be noted that playing Georgia in Athens is way different than playing them at home.

 

[HuntDawg]

If there is a logjam at 6-2/10-2 in the sec it seems like SOS should be a big factor. Which is why Georgia should be the top SEC team as of now. The only reason Bama or OM Geri to head to head arguments against Georgia is bc Georgias schedule was so much tougher than theirs.
I agree the TN resume is weak but it should also be noted that playing Georgia in Athens is way different than playing them at home.

Georiga losing on the field to Alabama and Ole Miss... has to be worth something. And alabama's schedule carries a good bit of weight as well. I could see how maybe you throw UGA infront of Ole Miss, but not Alabama... and losing soundly to ole miss is the tie-breaker for me as to why they are behind them.

Also UGA has played their 2nd gimme game... which will bring their SOS back to the pack a little.

 

[8dog]

Georiga losing on the field to Alabama and Ole Miss... has to be worth something. And alabama's schedule carries a good bit of weight as well. I could see how maybe you throw UGA infront of Ole Miss, but not Alabama... and losing soundly to ole miss is the tie-breaker for me as to why they are behind them.

Yeah but if Georgia had OMs schedule they are likely 8-0. Worst case 7-1. Strength of schedule has to matter. Again it’s the only reason you even get to head to head. Bamas schedule is certainly better with at TN

but Georgia had 3 road games at current playoff teams, hosted the first team out and neutral against number 17. That should matter a lot.

 

[HuntDawg]

Yeah but if Georgia had OMs schedule they are likely 8-0. Worst case 7-1. Strength of schedule has to matter. Again it’s the only reason you even get to head to head. Bamas schedule is certainly better with at TN

but Georgia had 3 road games at current playoff teams, hosted the first team out and neutral against number 17. That should matter a lot.

it does matter a lot. Its what has them squarely in the playoffs despite losing two games... while a host of other 2 loss teams have zero shot or on the outside looking in.

They are the highest ranked 2 loss team.. minus Ole Miss and Alabama.. who both beat them. I cant fault the committee for that at all.

 

[patdog]

Yeah but if Georgia had OMs schedule they are likely 8-0. Worst case 7-1. Strength of schedule has to matter. Again it’s the only reason you even get to head to head. Bamas schedule is certainly better with at TN

but Georgia had 3 road games at current playoff teams, hosted the first team out and neutral against number 17. That should matter a lot.

Maybe. Maybe not. I mean they would have gotten to play Georgia instead of Mississippi so that’s 1 more win. But the simple fact is they have 2 losses & Texas only has 1.

 

[8dog]

Maybe. Maybe not. I mean they would have gotten to play Georgia instead of Mississippi so that’s 1 more win. But the simple fact is they have 2 losses & Texas only has 1.

Georgia should definitely be ahead of TX. Their resume is the worst of the sec contenders. If they lose at TAMU they are out. But this committee is clearly pretty lazy.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Maybe. Maybe not. I mean they would have gotten to play Georgia instead of Mississippi so that’s 1 more win. But the simple fact is they have 2 losses & Texas only has 1.

You are talking like it's 2007 or something, which is generally how the committee thinks. Medieval thinking. I thought we were looking to put the best teams/resumes in? Record is just one part of that.

 

[patdog]

You are talking like it's 2007 or something, which is generally how the committee thinks. Medieval thinking. I thought we were looking to put the best teams/resumes in? Record is just one part of that.

Sorry. Losses matter. Georgia will get their chance.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Sorry. Losses matter. Georgia will get their chance.

Sure they do. And Texas got their asss kicked by Georgia at home, which matters much more than other losses on the road.

Texas literally has nothing else to stand on besides their name. Silly for anyone to think they'll beat aTm at aTm, or beat Alabama/Georgia/whoever in the SEC title game.

 

[patdog]

Sure they do. And Texas got their asss kicked by Georgia at home, which matters much more than other losses on the road.

Texas literally has nothing else to stand on besides their name. Silly for anyone to think they'll beat aTm at aTm, or beat Alabama/Georgia/whoever in the SEC title game.

If you're going that route Alabama certainly has to be above Georgia. Maybe Mississippi too. You can play the toughest schedule in the world, but you still have to win most all of those games.

 

[HuntDawg]

Sure they do. And Texas got their asss kicked by Georgia at home, which matters much more than other losses on the road.

Texas literally has nothing else to stand on besides their name. Silly for anyone to think they'll beat aTm at aTm, or beat Alabama/Georgia/whoever in the SEC title game.

if you think its silly... it'll likely happen.

losses matter. Not re-inventing the wheel here guys. A 10-1 sec team should be ranked higher than a 9-2 team. Texas has two big tests at the end of the season.... well see if they pass them both

The people that nit pick this thing apart weekly is the bad thing about this all... if we let it all play out... it usually does. Half-way wish they wouldnt even do a weekly ranking.. just wait til the end like the basketball selection show.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

If you're going that route Alabama certainly has to be above Georgia. Maybe Mississippi too. You can play the toughest schedule in the world, but you still have to win most all of those games.

Not as much. Georgia went on the road and lost to Alabama and Ole Miss.

Have to use common sense at some point.

 

[8dog]

If you're going that route Alabama certainly has to be above Georgia. Maybe Mississippi too. You can play the toughest schedule in the world, but you still have to win most all of those games.

And Georgia has. They are going to be 10-2. And it will be a better body of work than anyone else. Looking at pure record and just saying a loss is a loss isn’t reasonable. If someone went undefeated by playing State 8 time would you say “give them credit they won their games”

 

[HuntDawg]

And Georgia has. They are going to be 10-2. And it will be a better body of work than anyone else. Looking at pure record and just saying a loss is a loss isn’t reasonable. If someone went undefeated by playing State 8 time would you say “give them credit they won their games”

If alabama runs the table. Finishes 11-2.. theirs will be better.

If texas runs the table and finishes 12-1, with wins over Texas AM and Alabama. It will look really good as well.

Have to wait until the end of the season. You're going to the opposite extreme. Yes Georiga has played the toughest schedule. But some of these other teams havent played schedules that are poor...

 

[OG Goat Holder]

If alabama runs the table. Finishes 11-2.. theirs will be better.

If texas runs the table and finishes 12-1, with wins over Texas AM and Alabama. It will look really good as well.

Have to wait until the end of the season. You're going to the opposite extreme. Yes Georiga has played the toughest schedule. But some of these other teams havent played schedules that are poor...

No shlt.

 

[HuntDawg]

No shlt.

which is why right now.. no one should be worried about where teams are ranked.. you should look at where they could end up if they win out.

Georgia will be in if they win out. They control their own destiny.. whcih not a lot of teams control... and their schedule and body of work has earned them that.