How much pressure, if any, is on Franklin to win this Saturday?

Marshall2323

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I know marsh doesn’t care if we lose but I sure do. Check these maths

If you thought Franklin’s record against Top 25 teams was rough, wait until you find out he’s 3-17 against Top 10 opponents.
I want to win every game. The difference is that I am an adult.
 

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This is the second time you posted on this. I'm a Franklin guy. I don't think he's overpaid. I never said he should be fired.

The fact is this isnt 1970's Mansfield football. It's multi-billion dollar sports entertainment these days. He's worked his entire life to get to THIS position---->>> In the playoffs, with a clear winnable path to get to the semis. If his aśś isn't puckered going into this game, I wouldnt want him to be our coach.

Let's talk about the chip on your coaching shoulder.
1. It's not Mansfield=correct
2. I'm not sure he responsible for a multi billion dollars but I don't see a need to argue over a 100 million=correct
3. He has spent his entire life to get here and has an entirely different perspective than you do because of it = correct
4. Is it a winnable game? On paper you are correct. Now if the games were played on paper, SMU wouldn't show up.
So how winnable is the game if Allar throws 4 interceptions? Franklin's fault? How about if Allar gets hurt? Franklin's fault?
5. If his *** is puckered going into this game, I would lose all respect for him....because he'd be no better than you.

Let's talk about the chip on my coaching shoulder. I'd be curious to hear what it is you know about my life.
 
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Being critical is a part of deal, but showing balance is a part of the equation too. There is no perfect coach, team, or program. PSU has a group of fans that want to pretend this is the end all program but it's about 4 decades removed. Instead of dealing with that reality some will just make crap up and run with it.

Like it or not the HC these people cry about has the program in a title or bust situation currently.....so clearly he's doing a lot more right than wrong. Will he make mistakes....yep. Will PSU continue to fall behind in NIL because some fans are still upset about a statue or the BoT and hold it against him and the program....yep. Then those same babies will he the loudest after a loss....must be nice.
The perfect game has yet to be coached, played or officiated. If you go with the flow here, the game is played with words, expectations and predictions.
I'm a fan. I want to win every game. In this case, I'm thankful that PSU is here. Because it's another game to anticipate and enjoy. If they win, I get to anticipate and enjoy another game etc. The residuals of winning another game or two can also mean a better roster for next season (portal, recruiting or retention). However, I'll never understand why winning 10 or 11 games is a "given" and every loss is the fault of the coach.
That sort of failed thinking is all over the "blue blood" landscape and many are home watching PSU.
 
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However, I'll never understand why winning 10 or 11 games is a "given" and every loss is the fault of the coach.

this is a great beat blue hens and 3-17 sentence
 

Marshall2323

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In what way have I shown I’m not an adult?
Competitions have a winner and a loser. Participants and fans should be mature enough to understand that reality. Losses, for the most part are directly associated with superior execution and demonstration of talent by the winning side. Coaching and officiating are important components to the competition, but rarely the primary deciding factors. Weak people go through life blaming "them" for their failure. Blaming coaches and or officials for EVERY loss is just an extension of this sad attitude.
But on the bright side, even if PSU should lose Saturday, you will have at least 2 more years to remind everyone of Franklin's record.
 

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However, I'll never understand why winning 10 or 11 games is a "given" and every loss is the fault of the coach.

this is a great beat blue hens and 3-17 sentence
Fans have always had the portal. I can't speak to recently, but in my playing days, Delaware was a pretty good program. I'm trying to remember....Tubby Raymond and the Delaware Wing T. I'll bet they'd love to have you in their fanbase.
 
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1. It's not Mansfield=correct
2. I'm not sure he responsible for a multi billion dollars but I don't see a need to argue over a 100 million=correct
3. He has spent his entire life to get here and has an entirely different perspective than you do because of it = correct
4. Is it a winnable game? On paper you are correct. Now if the games were played on paper, SMU wouldn't show up.
So how winnable is the game if Allar throws 4 interceptions? Franklin's fault? How about if Allar gets hurt? Franklin's fault?
5. If his *** is puckered going into this game, I would lose all respect for him....because he'd be no better than you.

Let's talk about the chip on my coaching shoulder. I'd be curious to hear what it is you know about my life.
Everything I know about you is what you've posted here over many years, but it's not about that. It's about your insufferable defending of coaches no matter what they do to protect the "coaching shield". Again, this is coming from a guy that has defended Franklin over and over. I get it. Players ultimately have to perform. Coaches aren't close to perfect either. Constantly attacking fans (short for fanatics) on a message board got old about 5 years ago, yet you never stop.
 

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Everything I know about you is what you've posted here over many years, but it's not about that. It's about your insufferable defending of coaches no matter what they do to protect the "coaching shield". Again, this is coming from a guy that has defended Franklin over and over. I get it. Players ultimately have to perform. Coaches aren't close to perfect either. Constantly attacking fans (short for fanatics) on a message board got old about 5 years ago, yet you never stop.
But it's perfectly acceptable to trash the coach "over and over?" So everyone here can blame Franklin for every loss (and not just losses, but every perceived problem) but if someone counters those accusations it's "insufferable?"
I'm not sure what the coaching shield is. But I do know that perspective has a lot to do with what or how you see something. How and what you see has a great deal to do with where you stand. I know my perspective on life has changed a great deal as I've grown older. I can recall how frustrated I was with my Father when my Mother passed away. I didn't understand why he couldn't be the same guy at least some of the time. I needed him to still be my Dad. I wanted him to still be Grandpa to my boys. Now I've lost my wife. Guess what? Dad.....I'm so sorry.
You have no idea what Franklin deals with. You just want him to win to make you feel better. Well guess what? No one wants to win more than he does. PSU is fortunate to have him. From behind my "coaching shield" and my perspective, he does a good job. I'm gonna continue to express my opinions even if some find them "insufferable." Because that's the way I feel about the constant criticism of the coaching.
 

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But it's perfectly acceptable to trash the coach "over and over?

defend 3-17 so I can move on. Make 3-17 ok
 

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But it's perfectly acceptable to trash the coach "over and over?

defend 3-17 so I can move on. Make 3-17 ok
Easy. 99-41 despite at least the first two seasons being impacted by sanctions. A winning percentage equal to PSU's all time and winning at a rate that would put him on pace to equal and perhaps surpass Joe's record should he coach as long ;)
A coach who has won a Rose Bowl, a Cotton Bowl and a Fiesta Bowl.....as well as a Big Ten Championship. A coach who has won 10 or more games in 6 of the last 9 seasons. A coach who has had 4 and likely 5 top 10 finishes in the past 9 years. 3-17 is part of the story. But it's interesting how you leave out the rest.
 

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How am I crying. You’re defending 3-17 with “it’s only a game” defense on a football board. Weird. It’s weird.
Cindy Crawford has a birthmark. Is that the whole story? What's weird is repeating it over and over as if it's gonna change something. No matter how often you repeat it, it isn't going to impact the next "big game." Also, Franklin isn't getting fired. You are like the clown who complains about the weather. Yet you don't move.
 

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Wut the wut?

PSU is 40th out of 134 FBS teams in Penalty Yards/Game. (so, 94 teams have more penalty yards/game than PSU).
SMU is 131st out of 134 FBS in Penalty Yards/Game.

PSU averages 45.9 yards/game.
SMU averages 79.0 yards/game.

The least penalized team in FBS is Iowa St at 27.8 yards/game.

And, as to penalties/game, PSU is 21st (least). SMU is 127th.
My biggie bad. I read the chart backwards. Apologize for the bad info guys.
 

LionJim

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My biggie bad. I read the chart backwards. Apologize for the bad info guys.
Lol, I had been wondering what the hell was wrong with you, thought that you were making up **** off the top of your head. That would have been very unlike you. You actually checked the chart! Lol, not fun when that happens. Sorry for piling on.
 

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I know marsh doesn’t care if we lose but I sure do. Check these maths

If you thought Franklin’s record against Top 25 teams was rough, wait until you find out he’s 3-17 against Top 10 opponents.
Now tell me what his record is when he is favored and what his record is when he is an underdog.
 

Alphalion75

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Lol, I had been wondering what the hell was wrong with you, thought that you were making up **** off the top of your head. That would have been very unlike you. You actually checked the chart! Lol, not fun when that happens. Sorry for piling on.
No.....it's all good my friend.
 
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How am I crying. You’re defending 3-17 with “it’s only a game” defense on a football board. Weird. It’s weird.
No where do I say or imply I am defending 3-17. Hell, I wish it was 17-3, but it isn’t.

And guess what, if team loses to SMU or Boise, which would blow and be incredibly disappointing, I won’t be on here crying, bitching, whining over and over again like a petulant child because it isn’t going to change anything, and I have enough restraint to not come on here and vent (not like it will make me feel better).

There was a lot of things I was not happy about as I was sitting in Lucas Oil watching B1G game, but I wasn’t acting like a lunatic like some of our fans. They can claim there are just more passionate, but that is just their excuse for acting unhinged and clearly lacking any adult restraint.

Oh, and even if team doesn’t make the semis, Franklin isn’t going to be fired as there is no guaranteed can’t miss HC out there that is going to leave their current school and come here.

So no, it isn’t weird that I can dislike a lot of things about the outcomes of our games, but still use restraint and not act unhinged or boo hoo hoo on a message board repeatedly.
 

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However, I'll never understand why winning 10 or 11 games is a "given" and every loss is the fault of the coach.

this is a great beat blue hens and 3-17 sentence

Lax bro loss nights in the laKa household must have been hell.

And when they didn't even go D1 in a sport in which everyone who plays in HS seems to go D1 ... those disappointments must have gotten Blue Henned until they couldn't walk.
 

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No where do I say or imply I am defending 3-17. Hell, I wish it was 17-3, but it isn’t.

And guess what, if team loses to SMU or Boise, which would blow and be incredibly disappointing, I won’t be on here crying, bitching, whining over and over again like a petulant child because it isn’t going to change anything, and I have enough restraint to not come on here and vent (not like it will make me feel better).

There was a lot of things I was not happy about as I was sitting in Lucas Oil watching B1G game, but I wasn’t acting like a lunatic like some of our fans. They can claim there are just more passionate, but that is just their excuse for acting unhinged and clearly lacking any adult restraint.

Oh, and even if team doesn’t make the semis, Franklin isn’t going to be fired as there is no guaranteed can’t miss HC out there that is going to leave their current school and come here.

So no, it isn’t weird that I can dislike a lot of things about the outcomes of our games, but still use restraint and not act unhinged or boo hoo hoo on a message board repeatedly.
Yo, you know what I’m doing right after the state game? Watching 2 more fun games with 2. In what world do you think a state loss will derail my weekend?
 

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Yo, you know what I’m doing right after the state game? Watching 2 more fun games with 2. In what world do you think a state loss will derail my weekend?
So you demand that we win, but you don't care that we win.

I have a new idea for your job - you know the one that you work at while you're retired from working. Interrogator for the CIA/FBI/HSA ... you could just have a "normal" conversation with the suspects, and within minutes, they'd be begging to confess to get it over with.
 
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