How stupid are we?

[18IsTheMan]

What I saw of our game was nauseating from the discipline perspective.

We were getting trounced by 3 scores when I finally saw the game (against my will), and I saw our players bouncing around, celebrating, wagging heads and pumping each other up like we were the team up 3 scores. We made a few fairly decent plays in the time that I watched the game, but you'd have thought we won the Super Bowl the way some of our players were carrying on. It was really just embarrassing and made us look like a bunch of amateurs (ok, yeah, I know they technically are amateurs). Holtz used to say he didn't want players celebrating after a TD because he wanted them to act like they'd been there before. What would he think of our players carrying on while getting boat raced by 3 scores?

Chief among the stupidity was Dylan Stewart's absolutely moronic penalty after sacking the Ole Miss QB. What a stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid penalty. Just moronic. Why in the world would you intentionally and thoughtfully do something that: 1) completely negates the great play you just made and 2) hurts your team? It was emblematic of what I saw from the rest of the team though. There seemed to be no awareness that we were getting our butts handed to us.

Just very disappointing to see such sloppy, undisciplined play like that at this point in Beamer's tenure.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Stupid enough that it's being reported on:

Fake gun celebration from USC’s Dylan Stewart in Ole Miss game draws criticism

One former Gamecock said on social media: “Please bro stop with the gun celebrations ... that’s a penalty every time.”

www.aol.com

https://athlonsports.com/college/south-carolina-gamecocks/south-carolina-player-goes-viral-for-disrespectful-celebration-against-ole-miss

On 'gun celebrations' and the world we want to live in

New York #Jets WR Allen Lazard and South Carolina #Gamecocks DL Dylan Stewart sparked a dialogue about ‘gun celebrations’ in football.

touchdownwire.usatoday.com

South Carolina Player Penalized For Miming Shotgun to Opponent's Face While Down 24–3

Here's a penalty that will get called every time.

www.si.com

South Carolina Player Penalized For Miming Shotgun to Opponent's Face While Down 24–3​

South Carolina's Dylan Stewart Penalized for Ridiculous Sack Celebration

On Saturday, college football fans witnessed one of the least intelligent sack celebrations in a long time. After sacking Ole Miss’ Jackson Dart, South Carolina’s Dylan Stewart was penalized for a sack celebration that involved essentially shooting a gun in the face of Dart. The celebration...

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

https://thespun.com/sec/south-carolina/fans-are-furious-with-south-carolina-player-for-unsportsmanlike-conduct-penalty

With how stupid we looked on Saturday, this feels like a low point for USC football. Just total embarrassment that we are miming shooting opposing players at point blank range while getting our butts handed to us.

 

[Piscis]

Thugs gonna thug.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Thugs gonna thug.

It would be one thing to do that in a game where you're competing...maybe you're overcome by the intensity and emotion. To do it in a game where you're getting your but handed to you just tells a total lack of awareness.

 

[Piscis]

It would be one thing to do that in a game where you're competing...maybe you're overcome by the intensity and emotion. To do it in a game where you're getting your but handed to you just tells a total lack of awareness.

It is in their nature, regardless of the situation.

 

[muscleknight]

This happened a lot under Muschamp. A DB would give up a 30 yard pass play then the DB celebrating the tackle.

 

[18IsTheMan]

This happened a lot under Muschamp. A DB would give up a 30 yard pass play then the DB celebrating the tackle.

You're right. To me, that's coaching. 100%.

Need to discipline the players to have a situational awareness. Did the Stewart penalty affect the game's outcome? No. But it just demonstrates a lack of seriousness. When that happens, you can tell that players are playing for themselves and not the team. How can you celebrate when you've just given up a big play or when your team is getting crushed?

It's almost like they don't get what the ultimate goal is.

 

[Blues man]

What I saw of our game was nauseating from the discipline perspective.

We were getting trounced by 3 scores when I finally saw the game (against my will), and I saw our players bouncing around, celebrating, wagging heads and pumping each other up like we were the team up 3 scores. We made a few fairly decent plays in the time that I watched the game, but you'd have thought we won the Super Bowl the way some of our players were carrying on. It was really just embarrassing and made us look like a bunch of amateurs (ok, yeah, I know they technically are amateurs). Holtz used to say he didn't want players celebrating after a TD because he wanted them to act like they'd been there before. What would he think of our players carrying on while getting boat raced by 3 scores?

Chief among the stupidity was Dylan Stewart's absolutely moronic penalty after sacking the Ole Miss QB. What a stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid penalty. Just moronic. Why in the world would you intentionally and thoughtfully do something that: 1) completely negates the great play you just made and 2) hurts your team? It was emblematic of what I saw from the rest of the team though. There seemed to be no awareness that we were getting our butts handed to us.

Just very disappointing to see such sloppy, undisciplined play like that at this point in Beamer's tenure.

I said this before but again what bothered me more about the beyond stupid penalty was evidently no one coached him up afterwards because he did it again later in the game. I mean why are we even paying these guys? No excuse for that to happen twice. None.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I said this before but again what bothered me more about the beyond stupid penalty was evidently no one coached him up afterwards because he did it again later in the game. I mean why are we even paying these guys? No excuse for that to happen twice. None.

Yep. For as absolutely stupid of a penalty as it was, he should have been sat on the bench for the rest of the game. What message does it send to the rest of the team when a player who commits a 100% me-first, team-be-da*ned penalty keeps playing?

The fact that he then went out and did the exact same gesture is beyond baffling. Looks like inmates running the asylum.

 

[USCEE82]

In the NIL environment, coaches might fear a star player will enter the portal if he benches him. That is where we are until something changes.

 

[18IsTheMan]

In the NIL environment, coaches might fear a star player will enter the portal if he benches him. That is where we are until something changes.

I think you gotta do it anyway.

 

[PD-Cock]

In the NIL environment, coaches might fear a star player will enter the portal if he benches him. That is where we are until something changes.

I get & understand what you're saying. But, respectively, bench the kid, immediately if not sooner.
Players cannot run the locker room. If they do, fire the coach, immediately if not sooner.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I get & understand what you're saying. But, respectively, bench the kid, immediately if not sooner.
Players cannot run the locker room. If they do, fire the coach, immediately if not sooner.

Yeah, I mean, coaches already have minimal control over their rosters. Now they can't even control players in the game?

 

[USCEE82]

I think you gotta do it anyway.

I get & understand what you're saying. But, respectively, bench the kid, immediately if not sooner.
Players cannot run the locker room. If they do, fire the coach, immediately if not sooner.

Agree, but I'm not confident that Beamer is that guy.

 

[Blues man]

Yep. For as absolutely stupid of a penalty as it was, he should have been sat on the bench for the rest of the game. What message does it send to the rest of the team when a player who commits a 100% me-first, team-be-da*ned penalty keeps playing?

The fact that he then went out and did the exact same gesture is beyond baffling. Looks like inmates running the asylum.

At the very least, get in the guy's face and in a loud tone tell him you better not see that kind of crap again. Evidently we couldn't even do that... and we look weak because of it.

 

[jasonscottinsc]

Just celebrate with your team and you won't get flagged. Doing that in the QBs face was just stupid

 

[Blues man]

Just celebrate with your team and you won't get flagged. Doing that in the QBs face was just stupid

That would be great. Sounds like the kind of thing that should be coached.

 

[KingWard]

Thugs gonna thug.

And coaches gonna let 'em if they're too good to lose to the portal over discipline. The game is compromised appallingly now.

 

[Thunderstick]

It appears "street life" has firmly entrenched itself in our college game.