I can understand the BearShark's excitement this year

[onewoof]

OLE MISS FOOTBALL 2016-2020
2020 5-5 Outback Bowl
2019 4-8
2018 5-7
2017 6-6
2016 5-7
Side note: NCAA vacated Ole Miss wins 2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,2016




MISSISSIPI STATE FOOTBALL 2016-2020
2020 4-7 Armed Forces Bowl
2019 6-7 Music City BOwl
2018 8-5 Outback Bowl
2017 9-4 TaxSlayer Bowl
2016 6-7 St. Petersburg Bowl

 

[IPMdawg]

I agree we’ve been better, but many State fans don’t know we vacated the 2018 season for tutorgate.

https://hailstate.com/sports/football/schedule/2018

 

[MSUDC11]

They have only been to four bowl games since 2014 and three of them are NY6 games. They've had both a higher ceiling and a lower floor than us.

 

[patdog]

Nobody cares about vacated wins. It's stupid for the NCAA to use as a "punishment."

 

[msudawg12]

Screw this narrative. Id be elated for 10 wins and a sugar bowl too

 

[My_name_isnt_important]

I mean yeah they have been down, but they are in the Sugar Bowl after beating us and we are in the Liberty Bowl.... Hard to downplay that

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

**** THEM

 

[wsjmsu75]

I mean yeah they have been down, but they are in the Sugar Bowl after beating us and we are in the Liberty Bowl.... Hard to downplay that

I'll take a stab. Change about 2 plays for them (Ark. 2 point attempt and Tenn. endzone overthrow) and 3 for us (Ark. and Memphis ref screw jobs, LSU special teams penalty), and it is a totally different picture. Not to mention the dropped or missed td passes in the EB.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Other than big 6, which I WOULD BE excited for at state, I don’t understand the extra excitement over the Sugar. It hasn’t meant anything special since it stopped being the destination of the SEC winner. What am I missing?

 

[wsjmsu75]

Other than big 6, which I WOULD BE excited for at state, I don’t understand the extra excitement over the Sugar. It hasn’t meant anything special since it stopped being the destination of the SEC winner. What am I missing?

It's only special to them because it brings back memories of when they were semi-relevant in the 50's and early 60's before integration. Old times are not easily forgotten on the plantation.

 

[My_name_isnt_important]

And IF my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle... Bottom line is it didn’t happen that way

 

[wsjmsu75]

And IF my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle... Bottom line is it didn’t happen that way

But all of those things I pointed out could have much easier happened than your aunt having balls. Just pointing out what a fine line it can sometimes be between going 9-3 or 10-2 and going 7-5.

 

[onewoof]

Other than big 6, which I WOULD BE excited for at state, I don’t understand the extra excitement over the Sugar. It hasn’t meant anything special since it stopped being the destination of the SEC winner. What am I missing?

Payout isn't that great and I have had several older rebel men tell me that's the sec championship bowl.

But the younger alumni are just glad it's a chance to go get tore up drunk in New Orleans

 

[wsjmsu75]

Payout isn't that great and I have had several older rebel men tell me that's the sec championship bowl.

But the younger alumni are just glad it's a chance to go get tore up drunk in New Orleans

Alzheimer's is a terrible thing.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Don’t kid yourself. We’d all be over the 17ing moon if MSU were playing in it

 

[wsjmsu75]

So they get the Sugar Bowl and we got Omaha and a natty. I would not trade.

 

[onewoof]

Don’t kid yourself. We’d all be over the 17ing moon if MSU were playing in it

Yes we would be excited and happy to be in New Orleans. Not sure how many people be confused that there's two other SEC teams a level above us that we aren't even close to attaining. Today it's the 3rd place trophy most years.

 

[GloryDawg]

Other than big 6, which I WOULD BE excited for at state, I don’t understand the extra excitement over the Sugar. It hasn’t meant anything special since it stopped being the destination of the SEC winner. What am I missing?

To help make your point the winner of the SEC is not playing in it. It's the 3rd place team.

 

[The Peeper]

Thanks, I feel so much better now knowing we achieved all those moral victories . I bet the Top 25 would look much different if everyone did this hypothetical "what if" season ending ranking. We should base coaches salaries on what ifs instead of actual on field performance too

 

[MagnoliaHunter]

Caitlyn Jenner says not in today's world

Yes there is something wrong with that.

 

[patdog]

What about the LA Tech FG attempt? You can't play the what if game. We are what we are. And that's a 7-5 team.

 

[Smoked Toag]

Who cares, we won a national championship. Some of you need to pop in the tapes.

 

[msudawg12]

So they get the Sugar Bowl and we got Omaha and a natty. I would not trade.

Why the hell are you not asking for both?

 

[mstateglfr]

So they get the Sugar Bowl and we got Omaha and a natty. I would not trade.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

All of that don't matter when they are playing in the 17'n Sugar Bowl and we are playing in the Liberty Bowl. They should be thrilled. It sucks. No other way to spin it.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I'd be excited about a NY6 for certain. New Orleans being close to me would be a bonus too. However, I wouldn't be running around acting like we'd won the SEC to get there. It's another NY6 bowl, which are exciting, but it isn't the Sugar Bowl of 20+ years ago wrt the meaning to the SEC. To hear my OM friends talk you would think that Archie might suit up. Old times there are not forgotten...

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Heck yeah! Why stop there? Just ask for the national title in all sports! As it is said, it shall be done...

 

[047Dog]

I'll take a stab. Change about 2 plays for them (Ark. 2 point attempt and Tenn. endzone overthrow) and 3 for us (Ark. and Memphis ref screw jobs, LSU special teams penalty), and it is a totally different picture. Not to mention the dropped or missed td passes in the EB.

Their coach is 2-0. When ours was, we heard "we will never lose to them again" and our fans gobbled it up. Now we just act like this isn't a big deal? It is, and Leach better learn quick that the game does in fact count and matter. Just like 2014, we had a chance to make noise at the end of the season and we choked. You can't excuse that. They beat us on the field and are once again in a NY6 bowl. And our fans once again look stupid trying to downplay it.

 

[Smoked Toag]

All of that don't matter when they are playing in the 17'n Sugar Bowl and we are playing in the Liberty Bowl. They should be thrilled. It sucks. No other way to spin it.

It's Tier 3 at best. I don't see the big deal. Great season, yes, but they wanted more, and lose a ton. It's not like it's a sign of great things to come or anything.

Tier 1 is a national title, obviously. This gives you a good 10-15 years of staying power. You're considered a blue blood now.
Tier 2 is a conference title/playoff berth level. Probably about 5 years maximum of staying power.
Tier 3 is your typical 10 win season or so, 10-3 or 11-2 with the Big 6/NYD bowl win or loss. About a year's worth of respect, and that usually comes with excuses. You really need to follow that up with another good year to have any staying power.

So basically Ole Miss is not taking some next step or anything. I mean look at what happened to them in 2015, they promptly followed that up with 5-7.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

You underestimate the power of the portal friend. OM will get a QB and continue this thing.

 

[She Mate Me]

Their coach is 2-0. When ours was, we heard "we will never lose to them again" and our fans gobbled it up. Now we just act like this isn't a big deal? It is, and Leach better learn quick that the game does in fact count and matter. Just like 2014, we had a chance to make noise at the end of the season and we choked. You can't excuse that. They beat us on the field and are once again in a NY6 bowl. And our fans once again look stupid trying to downplay it.

I can promise you not all our fans gobbled up the not losing to them again BS. I thought it was stupid as **** to say you're going to do something that's impossible. He should have been asked about it 3 times in every losing Egg Bowl press conference.

 

[Smoked Toag]

You underestimate the power of the portal friend. OM will get a QB and continue this thing.

Just that easy, right? Let's get us one of them there left tackles while we're discussing the portal. Nothing to it, is it?

 

[She Mate Me]

You underestimate the power of the portal friend. OM will get a QB and continue this thing.

And we all know that portal QBs are a sure thing.

 

[Smoked Toag]

Other than big 6, which I WOULD BE excited for at state, I don’t understand the extra excitement over the Sugar. It hasn’t meant anything special since it stopped being the destination of the SEC winner. What am I missing?

Many of you seem to forget that we played in a NY6 bowl before. And it wasn't what it was cracked up to be. We were all disappointed, the team didn't show up for it and we got blown off the field.

Perhaps Ole Miss is a little more excited because they got their disappointment over with early in the season.

 

[msu0580]

So they get the Sugar Bowl and we got Omaha and a natty. I would not trade.

Yeah, maybe if we'd sent our baseball team to play Thanksgiving night things would be different and we wouldn't have to read these constant threads about how MSU would be ranked 7th, one above OM, were it not for crucial circumstances the entire country is aware of. Mainly those final numbers that came up on the scoreboard after each game. I don't know of anyone who would be content with playing in the Sugar Bowl on New Years Day this year who is a true MSU fan. It's a step below the NC game and that's all we care about so lets make fun of OM being happy about being invited. They don't know any better and if they win they'll only finish in the top 10, possibly the top 5. No way they win the NC like our baseball team did in the much more popular sport of college baseball. Do any of you ever actually read these stupid posts you make? Again, Leach's recruiting on the 15th is going to be off the charts, our football team left me as excited as I was with the team Mullen left behind but this time we have a coach that can do something with it. Back a few weeks ago when everyone on this board wanted Leach fired I think knowing we'd be in the Liberty Bowl would have been pretty astounding at the time. But hell no, let's just write astronomically STUPID posts about how the Sugar Bowl means nothing and OM only wants to play because it reminds them of owning slaves then throw out our baseball program as though it has ANYTHING to do with football programs. More than anything lets let potential recruits know that beating OM is our NC in football. Nothing else matters. I cannot think of a single other SEC team other than Ole Miss who would be excited to play in the Sugar Bowl which will be the most watched game behind the playoff games. Who wants that?

 

[patdog]

You underestimate the power of the portal friend. OM will get a QB and continue this thing.

I'm betting the UCF QB to UM is a done deal.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

People trying to downplay a 10 win regular season and NY6 bowl are delusional

 

[msu0580]

So what tier does the esteemed Liberty Bowl fall in? I haven't seen a lot of excitement from our fanbase over what will be a good game in close proximity to our school. That alone should insure a packed stadium and take the nations attention off a New Years 6 Sugar Bowl where two teams with a combined 20-4 record will be playing. I think maybe we should make it to the Sugar Bowl sometime before we start downplaying it. I'm sure our pathetic fan showing at the Liberty will come up in the future if there ever is a tie between us and another SEC school and they have to pick one to play. Won't matter, who wants to play in a tier 3 bowl that ain't what it used to be. As long as we can win that final game against OM that's all that matters. Sugar Bowl is a tier 3 game. I'm sure you'd be making that post if we were playing in it,

 

[patdog]

Don't kid yourself. The Sugar bowl is a big 17ing deal to a program like Mississippi or Mississippi State. Sure, if you're Alabama, it's maybe a letdown, but for anyone else, it's freaking huge. They had a great season this year and I'll be surprised if they drop off nearly as much as many are hoping they will.

 

[Drugs Delaney]

Luck counts, but it does not last