Liberty Bowl is essentially just another regular season game. Better to play in it than not, for sure.
I can understand the BearShark's excitement this year
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The Orange Bowl wasn't a very big deal to us. Only difference in Sugar is location.
The only real accomplishment is whatever their ranking is at the end of the season. Not the name of the bowl, that hasn't mattered in 23 years.
They may not drop off much, but they aren't going to go 10-2 again. 8-4 maximum.
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Nobody's downplaying it. But it's not some threshold to something bigger. Many kids opt out of these games.
The playoff, and to a lesser extent conference titles, are the only things that means anything. What would Baylor rather win, the Big 12 title game or the Sugar Bowl? Answer that honestly. And likewise Ole Miss, the SEC or the Sugar?
You have lost your damn mind. It's only the biggest deal that's happened for MSU football since WWII.
Yeah, the $5 tickets and actual attendance sure bore that out***************
Sorry, these bowls just don't mean much since the advent of the playoff. It is what it is.
We can barely put 60k people into our own stadium when we play at top 10 team at home, so I think traveling 15k people all the way to Miami to play in a stadium that takes an hour to get to from the hotel is a pretty good turnout. The Orange Bowl was a big deal, until we got clobbered and then the revisionist history majors like you showed up.
Good argument. But that means there are like 8 tiers. And 85-90% of teams are in the bottom 5 tiers. Tier 3 is still a top 15 program.
What tier is MSU this year?...6th?
So we're starting to illustrate the problem, which is that none of those tiers matter except 1, maybe 2 sometimes.
I'm as nostalgic as anyone about the way football used to be when I grew up, where bowls actually mattered, and really even during the BCS. We all knew it took a little luck to win a title. But going 13-0 and winning a major bowl (like Auburn in 2004) was nothing to sneeze at. Of course, back then everybody thought that was such a tragedy. It doesn't look too bad now, looking back.
At this point, I don't see how it can be argued that the expanded playoff is really the only way college football forges ahead. And the playoff really should be bigger than most people are picturing, if you compare the percentages of playoff teams vs. actual teams in lower football divisions and other sports. A 32 team playoff nets you 31 bowls. Everybody wins. The rest can be an NIT-type deal.
Exactly. Who cares about attendance when a bowl is 800+ miles away. Bowl attendance is meaningless. SEC fans are the only ones that beat their chests about butts in the seats for these bowl games. Literally nobody else in the country cares. Its' the eyeballs on the TV that matter. And if you don't think a traditional BCS/NY6 bowl don't matter, you are crazy.
Bro, NY6 is exhibition too.
Can you tell me who won the 2019 NY6 without looking it up (I say 2019 because 2020 was jacked up and nobody watched)? Yeah, I didn't think so. But you can definitely spout off that LSU won the title, and you can probably remember that Clemson was the opponent, and MAYBE remember the other two. I think it was maybe Oklahoma and Ohio State or Notre Dame.
That is why they are a tier below. Florida is all I remember and that's only because it was Danny.
No doubt that our season could have gone differently on a few plays. But that won’t stop me from having a damn blast in New Orleans. That one play against Arkansas that kept us out of Atlanta didn’t stop from hurting. So I’m not going to let a play or two stop me from enjoying it. And you wouldn’t either. We’ve had some bad years. But the 3 NY6 bowls in 7 years have been a lot of fun.
You can’t possibly think that has anything to do with why fans are enjoying a 10-2 season and the Sugar Bowl. If an Ole Miss fan posted that about MSU you’d make fun of them like crazy, and rightfully so.
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