I hope Paris isn’t Horn 2.0

[18IsTheMan]

have been traveling and not following too much about the Paris hire. Have not seen anything official but it’s being reported everywhere.

Man, what an underwhelming move. I was not in favor of the Furman coach, but at least he would have brought some excitement for being a local guy.

Coming on the heels of the apathy that set in under Frank, the hire of Paris doesn’t move the needle one bit.

On paper, it’s Darrin Horn 2.0, snatching up a mid-major coach after his first NCAA trip. Both had 5 seasons of coaching before being hired here. Except, Horn had a much better record and a really good conference record. Paris has a losing conference record.

I just don’t know how our search could have possible led us here. Could it be that this job is such a terrible sell that Paris is all we could get? I cannot possibly imagine he was anywhere near the top of our list. I hope he succeeds, but at the moment I have zero excitement about it.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

Name one thing Tanner has done that is overwhelming since he became AD. He has executed Hyman’s master plan, and he has kept the WBB HC onboard, which everyone on the planet would have done. The man has done nothing of note that originated from him. I’ll stop here because I’ve met him and have nothing particularly complimentary to say. I was very unimpressed.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

Really has that look about it, opie.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Either this job is so deplorable that nobody with a pulse wanted it and Paris is legitimately the best we could do.

Or we actually had Paris at the top of our list.

Either way, it’s depressing.

 

[Viennacock]

Either this job is so deplorable that nobody with a pulse wanted it and Paris is legitimately the best we could do.

Or we actually had Paris at the top of our list.

Either way, it’s depressing.

He knew for a year that he was going to fire Martin if he didn't make the dance and it appears Tanner didn't have a plan. Mind boggling.

I didn't think BJ was ready but after we lost out on Miller, the Cleveland State coach and the Murray state coach, I was all in on BJ.

We once again screwed the pooch on this one. That said, I will pull hard for Paris.

 

[Tngamecock]

He knew for a year that he was going to fire Martin if he didn't make the dance and it appears Tanner didn't have a plan. Mind boggling.

I didn't think BJ was ready but after we lost out on Miller, the Cleveland State coach and the Murray state coach, I was all in on BJ.

We once again screwed the pooch on this one. That said, I will pull hard for Paris.

Agree…..I am disappointed we didn’t give BJ a shot agter all this. He would move the needle until he didn’t. It at least would have been hopeful and something to look forward too. I bet Stevenson would have stayed if so. I just think now after reading about the style Paris will run, it will turn off recruits.

But…we can hope right?

 

[muscleknight]

Stevenson was hot and cold. I'm indifferent to him going into the portal.

 

[atl-cock]

He knew for a year that he was going to fire Martin if he didn't make the dance and it appears Tanner didn't have a plan. Mind boggling.

I didn't think BJ was ready but after we lost out on Miller, the Cleveland State coach and the Murray state coach, I was all in on BJ.

We once again screwed the pooch on this one. That said, I will pull hard for Paris.

Or maybe he did sniff around, and nobody was interested, or their agents said "get back to me when you're ready to make a move."

 

[KingWard]

I see right now from his news conference that he's easy to like and a player's coach. He's also very well spoken. My best wishes go out to him.

 

[CockofEarle]

have been traveling and not following too much about the Paris hire. Have not seen anything official but it’s being reported everywhere.

Man, what an underwhelming move. I was not in favor of the Furman coach, but at least he would have brought some excitement for being a local guy.

Coming on the heels of the apathy that set in under Frank, the hire of Paris doesn’t move the needle one bit.

On paper, it’s Darrin Horn 2.0, snatching up a mid-major coach after his first NCAA trip. Both had 5 seasons of coaching before being hired here. Except, Horn had a much better record and a really good conference record. Paris has a losing conference record.

I just don’t know how our search could have possible led us here. Could it be that this job is such a terrible sell that Paris is all we could get? I cannot possibly imagine he was anywhere near the top of our list. I hope he succeeds, but at the moment I have zero excitement about it.

Y’all need to move on from the “Felton Curse”.

 

[Rogue Cock]

have been traveling and not following too much about the Paris hire. Have not seen anything official but it’s being reported everywhere.

Man, what an underwhelming move. I was not in favor of the Furman coach, but at least he would have brought some excitement for being a local guy.

Coming on the heels of the apathy that set in under Frank, the hire of Paris doesn’t move the needle one bit.

On paper, it’s Darrin Horn 2.0, snatching up a mid-major coach after his first NCAA trip. Both had 5 seasons of coaching before being hired here. Except, Horn had a much better record and a really good conference record. Paris has a losing conference record.

I just don’t know how our search could have possible led us here. Could it be that this job is such a terrible sell that Paris is all we could get? I cannot possibly imagine he was anywhere near the top of our list. I hope he succeeds, but at the moment I have zero excitement about it.

Look at what Florida hired before we let Martin go. A coach with 3 years experience with barely a .500 record in the West Coast Conference and never finished higher than 5th in the league. And they are paying him $3M a year for 6 years. Not sure Mississipi State did any better and LSU's new coach was one most on our boards were criticizing.

Doesn't sound as though much was out there to be had....other than Miller.

 

[CockofEarle]

Look at what Florida hired before we let Martin go. A coach with 3 years experience with barely a .500 record in the West Coast Conference and never finished higher than 5th in the league. And they are paying him $3M a year for 6 years. Not sure Mississipi State did any better and LSU's new coach was one most on our boards were criticizing.

Doesn't sound as though much was out there to be had....other than Miller.

Now you’ve done it……some folks on here will think you’ve gone rogue.

 

[KingWard]

Look at what Florida hired before we let Martin go. A coach with 3 years experience with barely a .500 record in the West Coast Conference and never finished higher than 5th in the league. And they are paying him $3M a year for 6 years. Not sure Mississipi State did any better and LSU's new coach was one most on our boards were criticizing.

Doesn't sound as though much was out there to be had....other than Miller.

Miller was absolutely the only proven premier coach who was out there to be had in this cycle. And he was our Strike One!.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Miller was absolutely the only proven premier coach who was out there to be had in this cycle. And he was our Strike One!.

Yeah. And from what I've heard we couldn't buy our way into that one.....we had the much better offer....at least financially. Guess money doesn't mean everything after all.

 

[KingWard]

Yeah. And from what I've heard we couldn't buy our way into that one.....we had the much better offer....at least financially. Guess money doesn't mean everything after all.

He was trying to rehabilitate himself professionally and in terms of personal reputation. He saw the Xavier job as a way or sanitizing himself.

 

[Carolina Steve]

I see right now from his news conference that he's easy to like and a player's coach. He's also very well spoken. My best wishes go out to him.

KIng,

I was impressed with his message. Work hard, coach hard, recruit hard and embrace the history. That's exactly the message JoJo English shared on 107.5 this morning. He noted the connection to former players had been "disconnected" I am ready to give Coach Paris my support.

 

[butchrobbins]

I see right now from his news conference that he's easy to like and a player's coach. He's also very well spoken. My best wishes go out to him.

and there it is "very well spoken"....

 

[Sweetwatergolf]

I see right now from his news conference that he's easy to like and a player's coach. He's also very well spoken. My best wishes go out to him.

Clark Kellogg spoke highly of him on a radio show today. His 2 sons played for him. He stated what you mentioned.

 

[be cocky]

Agree…..I am disappointed we didn’t give BJ a shot agter all this. He would move the needle until he didn’t. It at least would have been hopeful and something to look forward too. I bet Stevenson would have stayed if so. I just think now after reading about the style Paris will run, it will turn off recruits.

But…we can hope right?

his style focuses on scoring, how does that turn away kids? the most important part of basketball whether it be one on one, three on three, or five on five, or pickup games, church league, middle school, high school. is scoring points. when you are alone with a basketball and a hoop, do you put the ball down and practice guarding a mid range jumper?

 

[be cocky]

and there it is "very well spoken"....

what’s this supposed to mean?

 

[Viennacock]

Or maybe he did sniff around, and nobody was interested, or their agents said "get back to me when you're ready to make a move."

Then you hold off on making the move. My guess is Miller told him he was coming and bailed when Xavier offered.

 

[CockofEarle]

Miller was absolutely the only proven premier coach who was out there to be had in this cycle. And he was our Strike One!.

Someone say strike?

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[KingWard]

and there it is "very well spoken"....

Had he struck me as a blathering idiot, I would have said so. He did not. Nothing wrong with his not conveying that.

 

[1st and goal]

Does it really matter anymore? Our entire men’s athletic program is ****

 

[KingWard]

Does it really matter anymore? Our entire men’s athletic program is ****

You need to come back South. All that cloudy, cold weather is darkening your mood.

 

[Polo Loco]

Tanner loses on his first choice and ends up with an underwhelming hire. Shocked, I tell ya.

He can't retire fast enough.

 

[atl-cock]

Then you hold off on making the move. My guess is Miller told him he was coming and bailed when Xavier offered.

I can see that.

 

[ToddFlanders]

At least in the beginning he’s not Horn. Horn was a guy on the chopping block that got lucky with a hot team. He was getting worse every year at a place anyone could win (and his team got hot in the year he was about to get fired). Paris was on the upswing. His teams got better every year and culminated in a great season. So not the same at all.

And yes, the previous two coaches at UTC did great. But realize that Will Wade cheated (100%) and McCall just rode those coattails for two seasons (but he showed he wasn’t a good coach at UMass).

Not sold on Paris, but he’s definitely not the loser Horn is.

 

[funktavious]

The thing that worries me the most about Paris, and any coach that comes here for that matter, is his ability to recruit. USC is a tough sell to instate recruits who would rather play in the ACC. I keep hearing about his use of the transfer portal and I can see how that would work at the mid-major level. Most guys who transfer to the mid-majors are guys who weren't blowing it away at bigger schools. If we are going to heavily depend on the portal, we won't be playing in March. It's a good place to find bodies when you need them but you aren't going to build your team from there. Iowa State managed to pull it off this season but I just can't see anyone doing that consistently at this level.

 

[gamecock stock]

Paris was something like my 5th or 6th choice of those prominently mentioned. But in all my years as a Gamecock fan, I don't believe my first choice has ever been hired for any sport. So, the Paris hire is "par for the course" for me.

This is my take on Paris. His team's record at UTC improved every year, both conference record and overall record. His mid-major UTC team barely lost (one point) to major power Illinois in the NCAA Tourney. I guess I'm saying that Paris knows a thing or two about player development and "X's and O's". I understand the concern he could be Horn 2.0. My response is that Horn was an assistant to and mentored by Tom Crean (who was fired by both Indiana and Georgia). Paris was an assistant to and mentored by Bo Ryan (who went to 4 Sweet 16s, one Elite 8 and 2 Final 4s including one national runner-up). Crean is Bob Uecker. Ryan is Johnny Bench.

My concern about Paris is can he recruit effectively. That remains to be seen.

My take on Paris may come across as Pollyanish to some of you. That's fine. But like I said, Paris was nowhere near my top choice. Yet, I learned long ago, I would never get everything I want. So my approach has always been to have fun, help others, be with someone, not get upset over the past or the future, and just live for today.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Paris was something like my 5th or 6th choice of those prominently mentioned. But in all my years as a Gamecock fan, I don't believe my first choice has ever been hired for any sport. So, the Paris hire is "par for the course" for me.

This is my take on Paris. His team's record at UTC improved every year, both conference record and overall record. His mid-major UTC team barely lost (one point) to major power Illinois in the NCAA Tourney. I guess I'm saying that Paris knows a thing or two about player development and "X's and O's". I understand the concern he could be Horn 2.0. My response is that Horn was an assistant to and mentored by Tom Crean (who was fired by both Indiana and Georgia). Paris was an assistant to and mentored by Bo Ryan (who went to 4 Sweet 16s, one Elite 8 and 2 Final 4s including one national runner-up). Crean is Bob Uecker. Ryan is Johnny Bench.

My concern about Paris is can he recruit effectively. That remains to be seen.

My take on Paris may come across as Pollyanish to some of you. That's fine. But like I said, Paris was nowhere near my top choice. Yet, I learned long ago, I would never get everything I want. So my approach has always been to have fun, help others, be with someone, not get upset over the past or the future, and just live for today.

Mid-major hires with such short head coaching resumes are always a roll of the dice. Horn had a much better overall record and conference record than Paris does, but you are correct that Paris has better tutelage than Horn did. Nothing to do now but wait and see and hope.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

Speaking of Horn..............................that buffoon has a team dancing again.