I only see a legit 4 wins in 2024. Outside of if these who else can they beat?

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If Beamer has a losing record next year the powers to be should be looking at replacing him. Flame away!

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We'll probably beat that team who turns out to be much worse than everybody thinks they will be. There's always one or two.

It's way too early to start predicting wins and losses.
 

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We'll probably beat that team who turns out to be much worse than everybody thinks they will be. There's always one or two.

It's way too early to start predicting wins and losses.
Exactly, who would have bet on Duke beating Clemson yet they did and it wasn't super close.
 
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8 wins in January will be 9 or 10 by July.

I'd be impressed if we win 6.
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He asked "can" win. We "can" beat everyone at home next season plus Vandy and Kentucky on the road. If it actually works out that way, remember that you heard it here first.

As much as I dislike the Portal (as well as NIL), what it means is that you are often playing a VERY different team than that of the previous season with practically a different team than you had the previous season. Consequently, it's a crap-shoot.
 

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I definitely think we've upgraded at a few positions and added some depth which I'll have to see play in the SEC before I would make any real predictions, same with receiver and QB, I would say 6-6 to start and we'll know which way that's headed after a couple of games.
 

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I definitely think we've upgraded at a few positions and added some depth which I'll have to see play in the SEC before I would make any real predictions, same with receiver and QB, I would say 6-6 to start and we'll know which way that's headed after a couple of games.

wow, 6-6 is your floor for this team???
 
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Duke was better than us.
Duke was better than expected and Clemson was not. Both due to QB play. Put Rattler (and maybe Legette) on Clemson and they are a playoff team. Their defense was playoff caliber but QB play was spotty and no consistent downfield threat. Wins and losses often come down to QB play and turn overs.
 
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What I've noticed, every year we hear how we've improved in certain areas so of course this will equate to more wins.
The missing part of the quotient is that these same individuals fail to take in to account that other teams look to improve in their areas of deficiency .
Bottom line, no one is standing still.
 

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What I've noticed, every year we hear how we've improved in certain areas so of course this will equate to more wins.
The missing part of the quotient is that these same individuals fail to take in to account that other teams look to improve in their areas of deficiency .
Bottom line, no one is standing still.

Yes, improvements are always viewed as if the rest of the teams have remained static.

And it's generally assumed that all incoming players from the portal or incoming recruits make us better as a team.
 

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Yes, improvements are always viewed as if the rest of the teams have remained static.

And it's generally assumed that all incoming players from the portal or incoming recruits make us better as a team.
LOL; yes, every incoming portal player is a "Huge get" and every 3 star recruit that signs is a "hidden gem" that was "under the radar". This is viewed as true at every program among all fans.

There is the old saying about generals and wars, "Generals are always fighting the last war". This also describes college football fans. Every fan base looks back at the previous season and thinks that if the team can address the weak spots from last year, next year's team will be great and all of the teams they will face will be exactly the same as they were the previous season.
 

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Its never ends up being exactly as you envisioned.

Teams that look daunting can have injuries and things happen as the season progresses and then other the teams are better then you think.

I foresee 6-6

With a upset win at Oklahoma, Beamer returns, it is Venables 3rd year and coaches tend to struggle in that year 3 after a good year 2 (See Beamer)

I think Texas AM took a step back in getting rid of Jimbo, just seems like they should of let it ride some more, flipping coaches when not having really bottomed all that much , is not always the answer (See Florida)

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Oklahoma
Texas AM
Vanderbilt
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By looking at our schedule, I think the placement of teams are much better than in the past. It’s a possibility that we win more games than expected but it’s also a possibility that we don’t. I do agree that we upgraded at every position besides CB. We just got to hope that our defense improve like we saw towards the end of the season. I’m excited to see how Sellers do with an actual good OL and RBs.
 

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By looking at our schedule, I think the placement of teams are much better than in the past. It’s a possibility that we win more games than expected but it’s also a possibility that we don’t. I do agree that we upgraded at every position besides CB. We just got to hope that our defense improve like we saw towards the end of the season. I’m excited to see how Sellers do with an actual good OL and RBs.

One thing struck me. Other positions aside, did we upgrade at QB?
 

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I don’t see a path to 6 wins
No path at all? That's some serious negativity, my friend. Let's look at the schedule and see if we can find you a little hope:

Old Dominion - WIN

at Kentucky - tossup game, very winnable

LSU - at home, this is winnable. They lost a ton, including their leading passer, rusher, receiver, etc. Tough game for sure, but wouldn't be a shock to win.

Akron - WIN

Ole Miss - at home, but a very tough game. A very likely loss

at Alabama - who knows what Bama looks like in October without Saban and after the transfer portal trims their roster. Extremely tough game, but not quite as hard as it might have appeared two weeks ago. Very likely loss

at Oklahoma - another really tough game, very likely loss

Texas A&M - who knows what A&M looks like, but it's at home so we've got a shot. Not out of the question that we win.

at Vanderbilt - WIN

Missouri - at home, so a tough game is winnable. Missouri was really good this year, but I'd expect them to take a step back. This isn't Georgia or Texas! Likely loss, but winnable

Wofford - WIN

at Clemson - last couple years have been competitive, so I'd expect that to continue. Clemson isn't the Clemson of 5 years ago. They're beatable.

Sure wins - 4 (ODU, Akron, Vandy, Wofford)
Sure losses - 3 (Ole Miss, Alabama, Oklahoma)
Upset specials - LSU, Missouri
tossups - Kentucky, A&M, Clemson


There's definitely a path to 6+ wins. I don't think you even need garnet glasses to see that path, so chin up! We have hope!
 

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And let's really consider this question. The operative word is upgrade
Honestly we don't know yet. Rattler was not very good in 2022 outside of the UT game. He was really good at home in 2023, but was terrible on the road. That's just facts. We can blame everyone else, but it's not like we sent different WRs, OL, RBs, defense for road games vs homes games. Same supporting cast, but he was awful on the road. So, will Sellers match his highest of highs? Probably not. But will he be more consistently good? I think there's a good chance at that, just simply bc Ratt was so bad on the road. I don't know why people act like it's impossible we'll be able to replace him. His production is eerily similar Cade Klubnik, who most here view as a bust. Mertz threw for 200 less yards, but 1 more TD and 5 less INTs, and everyone laughed their asses off for UF taking him.

Spencer Rattler is not irreplaceable, not even close.
 

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No path at all? That's some serious negativity, my friend. Let's look at the schedule and see if we can find you a little hope:

Old Dominion - WIN

at Kentucky - tossup game, very winnable

LSU - at home, this is winnable. They lost a ton, including their leading passer, rusher, receiver, etc. Tough game for sure, but wouldn't be a shock to win.

Akron - WIN

Ole Miss - at home, but a very tough game. A very likely loss

at Alabama - who knows what Bama looks like in October without Saban and after the transfer portal trims their roster. Extremely tough game, but not quite as hard as it might have appeared two weeks ago. Very likely loss

at Oklahoma - another really tough game, very likely loss

Texas A&M - who knows what A&M looks like, but it's at home so we've got a shot. Not out of the question that we win.

at Vanderbilt - WIN

Missouri - at home, so a tough game is winnable. Missouri was really good this year, but I'd expect them to take a step back. This isn't Georgia or Texas! Likely loss, but winnable

Wofford - WIN

at Clemson - last couple years have been competitive, so I'd expect that to continue. Clemson isn't the Clemson of 5 years ago. They're beatable.

Sure wins - 4 (ODU, Akron, Vandy, Wofford)
Sure losses - 3 (Ole Miss, Alabama, Oklahoma)
Upset specials - LSU, Missouri
tossups - Kentucky, A&M, Clemson


There's definitely a path to 6+ wins. I don't think you even need garnet glasses to see that path, so chin up! We have hope!
Mizzou and A&M kicked our a**es last year. Don’t see us closing the gap that much.

We squeaked by UK at home and they played liked trash.

LSU is still better than us.

Anyway, we will only be picked to win four games. Anything beyond 4 wins means we’re gonna have to be pulling up sets.
 

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One thing struck me. Other positions aside, did we upgrade at QB?
No way of knowing if we upgraded at any position until the players actually start playing. The only presumed lock is Sanders, but even then you’re assuming his knee is 100%. It’s all TBD.
 
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No way of knowing if we upgraded at any position until the players actually start playing. The only presumed lock is Sanders, but even then you’re assuming his knee is 100%. It’s all TBD.

Yeah, the only presumes lock is the guy with the built knee. Wonderful


I am just surprised at the speed with which Rattler went from singlehandedly carrying the team, running for his life on every other play and STILL dragging the offense down the field.... to being a step down from a guy who has thrown a handful of passes in his career.

We all knew it would happen. I was just caught off guard that it happened so fast.
 
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Mizzou and A&M kicked our a**es last year. Don’t see us closing the gap that much.

We squeaked by UK at home and they played liked trash.

LSU is still better than us.

Anyway, we will only be picked to win four games. Anything beyond 4 wins means we’re gonna have to be pulling up sets.
A&M didn't kick our asses. We had a disastrous end of the 1st half on 2 drives that we never recovered from...see my note above about Ratt playing on the road.
 

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Yeah, the only presumes lock is the guy with the built knee. Wonderful


I am just surprised at the speed with which Rattler went from singlehandedly carrying the team, running for his life on every other play and STILL dragging the offense down the field.... to being a step down from a guy who has thrown a handful of passes in his career.

We all knew it would happen. I was just caught off guard that it happened so fast.
Please list the people that are saying Ratt is a step down from Sellers?
 
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Honestly we don't know yet. Rattler was not very good in 2022 outside of the UT game. He was really good at home in 2023, but was terrible on the road. That's just facts. We can blame everyone else, but it's not like we sent different WRs, OL, RBs, defense for road games vs homes games. Same supporting cast, but he was awful on the road. So, will Sellers match his highest of highs? Probably not. But will he be more consistently good? I think there's a good chance at that, just simply bc Ratt was so bad on the road. I don't know why people act like it's impossible we'll be able to replace him. His production is eerily similar Cade Klubnik, who most here view as a bust. Mertz threw for 200 less yards, but 1 more TD and 5 less INTs, and everyone laughed their asses off for UF taking him.

Spencer Rattler is not irreplaceable, not even close.
I never thought that and certainly nothing in any of my posts would even come close to suggesting such a thing.
However many on here suggested he may have been one of the all time best to play here. One would have to take up that argument with those who suggested as such.
 
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I never thought that and certainly nothing in any of my posts would even come close to suggesting such a thing.
However many on here suggested he may have been one of the all time best to play here. One would have to take up that argument with those who suggested as such.
I gotcha. I think from a talent and potential aspect he probably is. But production wise....real talk, he's not much better than Jack Bentley was in his time here. I do think Rattler is a special leader, and has a lot of intangibles that make people around him better.

Last two years of each:
Bentley: 5,965 45-26
Rattler: 6,212 37-20
 
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I was being polite with the wording.
Got it. I assume I fall into the group you're speaking of though. So I will explain. Rattler was elite at times. At times he looked like Tommy Beecher. He was way too inconsistent. He has immense talent and potential, but his numbers don't match up with his potential. To me, it would be just as silly to assume Sellers can't equal his production as it would be to assume Sellers will be better.
 

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I gotcha. I think from a talent and potential aspect he probably is. But production wise....real talk, he's not much better than Jack Bentley was in his time here. I do think Rattler is a special leader, and has a lot of intangibles that make people around him better.

Last two years of each:
Bentley: 5,965 45-26
Rattler: 6,212 37-20
I was about to laugh at you for comparing Bentley and Rattler, but dang stats don't lie. If it weren't for the last two games of 2022, Rattler's tenure here would have been an abject failure. Those two games happened, though, so Rattler will always be remembered fondly.
 

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A&M didn't kick our asses. We had a disastrous end of the 1st half on 2 drives that we never recovered from...see my note above about Ratt playing on the road.
However, you want to word it. We gained 200 total yards of offense, and never threatened in the game. It was non-competitive.
 

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I was about to laugh at you for comparing Bentley and Rattler, but dang stats don't lie. If it weren't for the last two games of 2022, Rattler's tenure here would have been an abject failure. Those two games happened, though, so Rattler will always be remembered fondly.
Rattler looked great in the Tennessee game. At Clemson in 2022 he looked good enough but not great. Clemson lost that game more than we won it.