I only see a legit 4 wins in 2024. Outside of if these who else can they beat?

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I was about to laugh at you for comparing Bentley and Rattler, but dang stats don't lie. If it weren't for the last two games of 2022, Rattler's tenure here would have been an abject failure. Those two games happened, though, so Rattler will always be remembered fondly.
True. I think Rattler's history as a "former Heisman candidate" gave him a little more credibility as well.
 

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Rattler looked great in the Tennessee game. At Clemson in 2022 he looked good enough but not great. Clemson lost that game more than we won it.
Agree with this...kind of. We did a lot more to lose that game that Clem did. We made plays in the end and they didn't.
 

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Agree with this...kind of. We did a lot more to lose that game that Clem did. We made plays in the end and they didn't.
I guess the point is; Rattler didn't look "great" in that game, he looked "good enough". Neither team looked great. Rattler got a lot of mileage out his "Heisman hopeful" time at OK. It will be interesting to see how he does in the draft. The pro scouts know exactly what they are looking for.
 

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Did you even watch that game? It doesn't sound like you did.
I don't know who watched what game, and who has what definition, but I thought we scored early in the 4th of this the 2023 game to make a 7 pt. game early in the 4th qtr in the game I watched.

Now I remember the prior trip to Texas A&M the 2021 game 14- 44, that was definitely uncompetitive. I still remember the below image, going to commercial, glad Zeb got up :)

 

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I guess the point is; Rattler didn't look "great" in that game, he looked "good enough". Neither team looked great. Rattler got a lot of mileage out his "Heisman hopeful" time at OK. It will be interesting to see how he does in the draft. The pro scouts know exactly what they are looking for.
Agree. I think he'll shine in the combine and the interviews. He can make all the throws.
 

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I don't know who watched what game, and who has what definition, but I thought we scored early in the 4th of this the 2023 game to make a 7 pt. game early in the 4th qtr?

Now I remember the prior trip to Texas A&M the 2021 game 14- 44, that was uncompetitive. I still remember the below image, glad Zeb got up :)

Yeah, it was a 7 point game at the end of the 3rd.

That game was a disaster in 2021!
 

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Yeah, it was a 7 point game at the end of the 3rd.

That game was a disaster in 2021!
Yes, that is not a uncompetitive game to me, but if a 7 pt. game into the 4th quarter is uncompetitive to you, and your a Gamecock fan, it must be miserable watching Gamecock football through the years, LOL. :)
 

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I don't know who watched what game, and who has what definition, but I thought we scored early in the 4th of this the 2023 game to make a 7 pt. game early in the 4th qtr in the game I watched.

Now I remember the prior trip to Texas A&M the 2021 game 14- 44, that was definitely uncompetitive. I still remember the below image, going to commercial, glad Zeb got up :)


Eh, I've watched enough of our football. We did make it a 7 point game, but there was never a sense that we could actually win.
 
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Duke was better than expected and Clemson was not. Both due to QB play. Put Rattler (and maybe Legette) on Clemson and they are a playoff team. Their defense was playoff caliber but QB play was spotty and no consistent downfield threat. Wins and losses often come down to QB play and turn overs.
I've heard that. But if our quarterback couldn't get us past UPC, he might not have been able to get us past Duke, either, especially if playing Duke when UPC played them.
 

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One thing struck me. Other positions aside, did we upgrade at QB?
In all honesty no. But last season, Spencer had no help besides XL. If we can fix the run game, the pass blocking, and consistency at the receiver position, I think the QB play will be good enough to win more games.
 
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In all honesty no. But last season, Spencer had no help besides XL. If we can fix the run game, the pass blocking, and consistency at the receiver position, I think the QB play will be good enough to win more games.

I could buy that.
 

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In all honesty no. But last season, Spencer had no help besides XL. If we can fix the run game, the pass blocking, and consistency at the receiver position, I think the QB play will be good enough to win more games.
Honestly we donā€™t know. I mean, Spencer had A LOT of weapons in 2022. Juice, Vann, Brooks, Bell, Lloyd, Adkins. And he didnā€™t put up great numbers with them. Itā€™s entirely possible that weā€™ve overinflated him bc he was a Heisman candidate and the UT game. Now, we can wonder what might have happened if he had a line that protected him. But from a production standpoint, itā€™s certainly not out of question that Sellers will be able to match that.
 
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Honestly we donā€™t know. I mean, Spencer had A LOT of weapons in 2022. Juice, Vann, Brooks, Bell, Lloyd, Adkins. And he didnā€™t put up great numbers with them. Itā€™s entirely possible that weā€™ve overinflated him bc he was a Heisman candidate and the UT game. Now, we can wonder what might have happened if he had a line that protected him. But from a production standpoint, itā€™s certainly not out of question that Sellers will be able to match that.
The man was constantly under duress, but he demonstrated that he is a warrior and a team player. He has the arm and the smarts. With good resources, he could do very well, I would posit.
 

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The man was constantly under duress, but he demonstrated that he is a warrior and a team player. He has the arm and the smarts. With good resources, he could do very well, I would posit.

He's gone though Ward. Once he steps foot off campus, he's automatically worse, and instantly replaceable.
 
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He's gone though Ward. Once he steps foot off campus, he's automatically worse, and instantly replaceable.
lol. Some of yā€™all are overly dramatic.

For the record, Iā€™ve been very critical of his play on the road all year long. And have said numerous times on here he had one great game in 2022. All you have to do is go back and see how many QBs weā€™ve had over the year with around 3k yards and less than 20 TDs. Hereā€™s a hintā€¦itā€™s more than 1.
 

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I do not think this word means what you think it means, Vizzini.
Iā€™m spot on in my analysis. Someone says itā€™s not impossible to replace him and you run with ā€œnow that heā€™s gone heā€™s worse and instantly replaceable.ā€ Youā€™re dramatizing what you are reading. And what is Vizzini?
 

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Iā€™m spot on in my analysis. Someone says itā€™s not impossible to replace him and you run with ā€œnow that heā€™s gone heā€™s worse and instantly replaceable.ā€ Youā€™re dramatizing what you are reading. And what is Vizzini?

A reference you obviously missed. It might be an age thing.

You seem to be taking offense, and none is really intended. Perhaps some of us have just been around message boards, and college football long enough to recognize the pattern and to chuckle at what we see as cliche.

Just a few posts above a comment was thrown out that every recruit or transfer is an automatic enhancement for that position. That poster, and those of us chuckling over it aren't being serious. We're laughing about how it's a yearly exercise, downplaying the outgoing talent and talking up the incoming talent.

It happens every year, and after enough time, people begin to see the pattern and get a little laugh out of it. It's not a big deal. It's expected. It's cliche.

My only real surprise is that it l seems to have started early this year. But that may be me misremembering the general trend over time.
 
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A reference you obviously missed. It might be an age thing.

You seem to be taking offense, and none is really intended. Perhaps some of us have just been around message boards, and college football long enough to recognize the pattern and to chuckle at what we see as cliche.

Just a few posts above a comment was thrown out that every recruit or transfer is an automatic enhancement for that position. That poster, and those of us chuckling over it aren't being serious. We're laughing about how it's a yearly exercise, downplaying the outgoing talent and talking up the incoming talent.

It happens every year, and after enough time, people begin to see the pattern and get a little laugh out of it. It's not a big deal. It's expected. It's cliche.

My only real surprise is that it l seems to have started early this year. But that may be me misremembering the general trend over time.
haha. Yeah, just googled it, definitely an age thing.

Iā€™m not taking offense to it, hence the ā€œlolā€. Itā€™s all good.
 
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OL, QB, WR, and CB all question marks, and to me DL is still a question mark. I think 6 wins is within reach but not likely. To me , it all depends on the offense. Sellers will have to have a break out season, passing and running for us to get to 6 or 6+ wins. Can he be Superman?. Maybe. Thatā€™s a lot of pressure for a young kid
 
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OL, QB, WR, and CB all question marks, and to me DL is still a question mark. I think 6 wins is within reach but not likely. To me , it all depends on the offense. Sellers will have to have a break out season, passing and running for us to get to 6 or 6+ wins. Can he be Superman?. Maybe. Thatā€™s a lot of pressure for a young kid
Your forgot RB. Let's be honest, there really isn't a position group that can be said to be "solid". LB may be the best but even that is a "tallest pygmy in the jungle" sort of compliment.
 

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Honestly we donā€™t know. I mean, Spencer had A LOT of weapons in 2022. Juice, Vann, Brooks, Bell, Lloyd, Adkins. And he didnā€™t put up great numbers with them. Itā€™s entirely possible that weā€™ve overinflated him bc he was a Heisman candidate and the UT game. Now, we can wonder what might have happened if he had a line that protected him. But from a production standpoint, itā€™s certainly not out of question that Sellers will be able to match that.
I like your last point, but you have to remember who was calling the offense, once it was simplified for Spencer and the team it started to click! Then Dowell came in with not many weapons and to me the offense looked more cohesive and ran smoother! So I quess Iā€™m on the fence because we just donā€™t no if weā€™ll be getting better on the line and receiving, I do think weā€™ll be better running the ball though IF the line can run block!
 

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Honestly we donā€™t know. I mean, Spencer had A LOT of weapons in 2022. Juice, Vann, Brooks, Bell, Lloyd, Adkins. And he didnā€™t put up great numbers with them. Itā€™s entirely possible that weā€™ve overinflated him bc he was a Heisman candidate and the UT game. Now, we can wonder what might have happened if he had a line that protected him. But from a production standpoint, itā€™s certainly not out of question that Sellers will be able to match that.
There are a lot of unknowns for his career here. He had more weapons in ā€˜22, but a horrible OC that I believed hamstrung him). This year I thought the OC allowed him to play (I get the stats comparison between Satt and Loggains and all), but beyond XL it seemed every else was worse (including ST and D).
 

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Honestly we donā€™t know. I mean, Spencer had A LOT of weapons in 2022. Juice, Vann, Brooks, Bell, Lloyd, Adkins. And he didnā€™t put up great numbers with them. Itā€™s entirely possible that weā€™ve overinflated him bc he was a Heisman candidate and the UT game. Now, we can wonder what might have happened if he had a line that protected him. But from a production standpoint, itā€™s certainly not out of question that Sellers will be able to match that.
Iā€™m more so talking about from a throwing ability and mentally. From a numbers standpoint, I can see Sellers having a better year because heā€™s more mobile. Satt held us back in 2022 with the weapons he had tbh.
 

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There are a lot of unknowns for his career here. He had more weapons in ā€˜22, but a horrible OC that I believed hamstrung him). This year I thought the OC allowed him to play (I get the stats comparison between Satt and Loggains and all), but beyond XL it seemed every else was worse (including ST and D).
I think if Juice were healthy it would have made a YUGE difference. UGA had no answer when he was on the field. With he and X out there, who knows what kind of year we could have had.
 
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Iā€™m more so talking about from a throwing ability and mentally. From a numbers standpoint, I can see Sellers having a better year because heā€™s more mobile. Satt held us back in 2022 with the weapons he had tbh.
Agree. And that's kind of my point in thinking Sellers will be able to keep it rolling. It's more than just an individual's talents. It's the players and coaches around him. In 2022 he had the players around him, but coaching sucked. In 2023, it appears coaching was better but the players dropped off. Ratt improved in % and threw less INTs, but yds and TDs were about the same.

Sellers coming in with a RB stocked with actual RBs, a OL room that will be healthy (and hopefully remain that way), and Logg in his 2nd year will be an overall improvement in my opinion.
 

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I think if Juice were healthy it would have made a YUGE difference. UGA had no answer when he was on the field. With he and X out there, who knows what kind of year we could have had.
That's the kind of theoretical reasoning that eludes some around here. I approve of it. But it could be that the reason he wasn't out there was because the program is cursed. I can be theoretical too. šŸ˜
 

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I think if Juice were healthy it would have made a YUGE difference. UGA had no answer when he was on the field. With he and X out there, who knows what kind of year we could have had.
Juice was on the field for one series, the first possession of the game. Yes, he looked good in that possession but I'm pretty confident UGA would have adjusted on D to account for him. Juice was really good in that one possession he played but I don't think he could have single handedly changed the course of the season.