You know the offense will be different right? It will still be Air Raid if i had to guess, but Rogers will not have the same autonomy he had before. The way Leach ran this offense isn’t like anyone else including the folks the in his coaching tree.
If Rogers stinks it up in Bowl Game does CZA go hard after a potential starter at QB?
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No, I don't know the offense will be different or how different because we don't have a clue who the OC will be or what he will do. I certainly hope its different but we don't know
When did 8-4 and finishing 22nd in the CFP rankings become something to use as ammunition to try and prove a QB is bad? Thats detached from reality.
Rogers is at 6.6 yards per passing attempt. That doesnt come close to leading the nation, and it also isnt bad when you consider he is 11th in the country in completion %. Its simply a style of play- more completions overall, but for slightly less yards.
You(and others) just sound bitter because the way he plays and the way the offense has run isnt how you want to see it run. So you find a couple small things to cry about and hyperfocus on those while ignoring the glaring reality right in front of you. "He doesnt throw it deep enough!" "He doesnt run the ball enough!"
More fun stats. Rogers is...
- 8th in the country in passing yards.
- 7th in the country in passing TDs.
- 6th in the country in passing yards per game.
- 1st in the country in completions per game.
- 11th in the country in completion percentage.
Even more fun stats...
- Tom Brady had -150 total yards rushing in college.
- Peyton Manning had -181 total yards rushing in college.
Based on these stats, since Rogers has -310 total yards rushing, it is easy to see he is destined to become one of the best NFL QBs of all time.**
The offense will be different because no one runs it like Leach did. Arnett already said it will be different.
Too bad none of that helped him perform against LSU, Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama,, Auburn, and Ole Miss.
I have a hard time thinking Sawyer is as bad as he looked in VERY limited action. I hate the hell outta Will being such a liability with his feet and unable to hang on to the ball and deal with a collapsed pocket. Will at QB gives us sure losses against above avg Defenses because it's like "We're playing with 9" but at this juncture, going for a portal QB would be a horrible look and a locker room nightmare. Gonna have to go with what we got.
Using the stats on ESPN.com, it looks like that's 4th in the SEC and tied for 11th in the nation and if you don't apply minimum attempts, completions, or touchdowns. If you want to apply a minimum on it, you can do the subtraction. ESPN says they update nightly, so this would include bowl stats for some of these guys.
| NAME | POS | CMP | ATT | CMP% | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | INT | TD/INT Ratio | TD/INT PCT |
| Hendon Hooker TENN | QB | 229 | 329 | 69.6 | 3,135 | 9.5 | 78 | 27 | 2 | 27:2 | 14 |
| Grayson McCall CCU | QB | 207 | 297 | 69.7 | 2,700 | 9.1 | 75 | 24 | 2 | 24:2 | 12 |
| Caleb Williams USC | QB | 296 | 448 | 66.1 | 4,075 | 9.1 | 75 | 37 | 4 | 37:4 | 9 |
| Conner Weigman TA&M | QB | 73 | 132 | 55.3 | 896 | 6.8 | 45 | 8 | 0 | 8:0 | 8 |
| Max Duggan TCU | QB | 239 | 368 | 64.9 | 3,321 | 9 | 80 | 30 | 4 | 30:4 | 8 |
| Will Howard KSU | QB | 101 | 164 | 61.6 | 1,423 | 8.7 | 80 | 15 | 2 | 15:2 | 8 |
| MJ Morris NCST | QB | 52 | 86 | 60.5 | 648 | 7.5 | 44 | 7 | 1 | 7:1 | 7 |
| Joe Milton III TENN | QB | 34 | 54 | 63 | 720 | 13.3 | 64 | 7 | 0 | 7:0 | 7 |
| Jake Haener FRES | QB | 252 | 350 | 72 | 2,896 | 8.3 | 65 | 20 | 3 | 20:3 | 7 |
| J.J. McCarthy MICH | QB | 188 | 288 | 65.3 | 2,376 | 8.3 | 75 | 20 | 3 | 20:3 | 7 |
| Kurtis Rourke OHIO | QB | 244 | 353 | 69.1 | 3,256 | 9.2 | 75 | 25 | 4 | 25:4 | 6 |
| C.J. Stroud OSU | QB | 235 | 355 | 66.2 | 3,340 | 9.4 | 79 | 37 | 6 | 37:6 | 6 |
| Adrian Martinez KSU | QB | 118 | 184 | 64.1 | 1,261 | 6.9 | 81 | 6 | 1 | 6:1 | 6 |
| Hudson Card TEX | QB | 75 | 108 | 69.4 | 928 | 8.6 | 45 | 6 | 1 | 6:1 | 6 |
| Mikey Keene UCF | QB | 60 | 83 | 72.3 | 647 | 7.8 | 45 | 6 | 1 | 6:1 | 6 |
| Will Rogers MSST | QB | 386 | 566 | 68.2 | 3,713 | 6.6 | 75 | 34 | 6 | 34:6 | 6 |
| Holton Ahlers ECU | QB | 315 | 469 | 67.2 | 3,708 | 7.9 | 74 | 28 | 5 | 28:5 | 6 |
| Jordan Travis FSU | QB | 199 | 315 | 63.2 | 2,796 | 8.9 | 78 | 22 | 4 | 22:4 | 6 |
ETA: My spreadsheet wasn't handling the folks with 0 in TD or INT correctly for the PCT calculation, so I made it divisible by 1 to keep it simple. All it added was Conner Weigman from Texas A&M and Joe Milton III from Tennessee, both of which I would categorize under 'not enough attempts"
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You can print all the stats that you want but comparing Dak to Will isn’t valid. They played in two entirely different offenses. Of course Will has more passing yards or will end up with more total yards especially when you throw the ball 50+ times a game. It’s not even a contest Dak by far was and obviously is the better QB no matter how many stats you list.
Oh, I am not seriously comparing Dak and Will. I am not, in any way, suggesting Will is better either.
And you are correct- the offences for each QB is different, and therefore different stats/results will show. Everyone who is citing Will's lack of downfield stats should keep that in mind. Everyone who is citing Will's lack of running should keep that in mind. They play in different offenses and are different players.
The problem with stats though is that if you are going to claim something is an issue and use numbers, then you need to be willing to discuss numbers that run contrary to your narrative.
This all started because it was claimed Rogers cant hold onto the ball(opinion based on stat) and cant run, so I provided stats for clarification- he has lost the ball only a few times and his passing numbers more than make up for his lack of running. He isnt a dual threat QB, and a dual threat QB isnt Rogers.
This is why I then used Dak as an example- he is an elite QB and MSU alum who did run a lot. Rogers has better numbers than Dak in many categories(and should, since he throws more).
You miss the point on why Dak was brought up. Rogers is an effective QB and shouldnt be replaced just because he may not play well in a bowl game. His season stats should solidify him as the starter going into spring.
Will is probably the second best quarterback (throwing the ball) we’ve ever had and some of y’all trash him like he’s Michael Henig. I don’t understand it except some of y’all hate the Air Raid because it’s not football like daddy played it where you line up and smash into each other and run it up the middle like manly men should do. So y’all take it out on our QB running the offense. What QB we’ve ever had has consistently beat Alabama or Georgia? Btw, Dak never beat Ole Miss as a starting quarterback.
One thing to remember is that Dak wasn't a full time starter until his 4th year on campus.
Rogers has yet to play his 4th year on campus.
I'm not saying Rogers is better than Dak. It would be crazy to do so at this point, I mean Dak is a bonafide NFL guy. But I'm just pointing out facts here. Dak did a lot of stupid crap too in his 3rd year on campus (2013, he was a RSo.), left WRs running wide open routinely. So it's valid to wait and see what Rogers can do next season. If he learns some pocket presence, he could be very good.
Yeah I definitely think Will is a below average QB because of him not being in a smash mouth offense?
What type of logic do you use? That’s a completely ignorant statement.
Will is a below average QB because when push comes to shove, if the game is against a team with a top 70 defense, 99% of the time Will folds.
It’s easy to look good agains the sisters of the poor. Good QB’s win and play well against the same or better competition. Will has maybe one or 2 games where he’s played good against a top 70 defense in the last few years.
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