If you're a JFK conspiracist you've got some light Tuesday night reading to do...

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Anyone ever seen this? Who knows if he's being truthful but it's a plausible story.

 

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Maybe I am missing something, but it seems like if a government has the ability to assassinate a President and cover it up for 60 years, that same government can and likely would destroy any evidence of the cover up. If the US Government was involved, did people really expect the release of something that would prove that?
Please don’t insert logic and reason.
 
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Here's my takeaway (I know everyone here has been on pins and needles)...

There was never any question that there'd be nothing actually showing any government involvement in the assassination. So you gotta ask yourself, what were these obviously smart, obviously sneaky as 17 people not wanting the public to see???

They don't want us to know exactly how rotten the sausage they make is. The sordid details of the kind of **** our intelligence agencies did and continue to do on a daily basis will make you unlikely to ever trust much of anything they tell you if your paying any attention at all.

That is what they don't want laid bare. Could people like this kill a president or attempt to kill a presidential candidate, or do any 17'n thing they thought they could get away with to influence any election anywhere??? if it furthered their own agenda, careers??

Hell yes they could and have and will...


You just need to trust that people are inherently good.
 
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I went to the museum and stood in the 6th floor school book depository window and Dealy plaza.

It would have been an easy shot down Houston St. it would have been a very difficult shot towards Elm. It would have been a very easy shot from the grass knoll.

"...back and to the left". The fatal shot was from the front right, grassy knoll.
Yeah, same, I stood at the 7th floor window directly above and thought "I could make that shot". I don't know that I could have hit him twicein three shots in however many seconds with a bolt action, but my first shot would have been close.
 
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Of course most of it is the same. That's common sense. Anyone going off page 1 of 80,000 as "proof" of anything is a moron. Let's give people more than 4 minutes to comb through the 80,000 pages before anything definitive is declared.

All you have to do is read a couple of posts from that Krassenstein dude to write him off as nothing but an attention seeking, low IQ hack
 

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All you have to do is read a couple of posts from that Krassenstein dude to write him off as nothing but an attention seeking, low IQ hack
There are 2 Krassensteins. They are twins. Both are social media hoes. Both were involved in some sort of ponzi scheme years ago and got busted.
 
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I don’t think so. Pretty much none are inherently good. And if you’re able to climb to the top of any govt agency, you’re probably a long way from it.
Actually, the Bible teaches just the opposite. There is none righteous, no not one.
 

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That's why we should also not expect the Epstein files to be released. Anyone who ever has them in his possession and had an interest in keeping them from getting released would have done everything they could to destroy them.
Epstein was able to bring Republicans and Democrats together like never before. We will not see the files because both sides are on the list. Trump and Clinton do not want the real Epstein files out.
 

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It’s interesting that today’s left is in lockstep with mainstream media and in bed with the federal bureaucrats. They plug their ears and basically trust every word that’s fed to them from lifelong politicians- even though there’s a **** ton of evidence recently, specifically COVID, that we should not trust anything they say. Why are today’s liberals like this? It’s completely opposite of what the progressives were from 1960s - 2010s
 

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There are 2 Krassensteins. They are twins. Both are social media hoes. Both were involved in some sort of ponzi scheme years ago and got busted.

Thanks, didn't know that. I'll pay as much attention to both of them as I do to whichever one was quoted above.
 

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After grass week that's an easy shot, except for the pizza box crowd.
I was never pizza box, but I missed expert once or twice. I always screwed up on the 200-meter firing line. It was the rapid fire that got me. I was always 10 for 10 in the black from 500 meters. The thing is to the civilian public, sharpshooter sounds better even though it is less than expert.
 

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It’s interesting that today’s left is in lockstep with mainstream media and in bed with the federal bureaucrats. They plug their ears and basically trust every word that’s fed to them from lifelong politicians- even though there’s a **** ton of evidence recently, specifically COVID, that we should not trust anything they say. Why are today’s liberals like this? It’s completely opposite of what the progressives were from 1960s - 2010s

It's pretty incredible to me how much of a team sport today's left makes politics. I guess the fanatics on both sides have always done this, but there is a large cohort of immovables on the left who are ruled by emotion, and the only emotion that matters is hatred of Trump and all associated with his agenda.
 

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I think that’s basically what I said

Actually, the Bible teaches just the opposite. There is none righteous, no not one.
I believe there is fairly big gulf between what the Bible defines as "righteous" and what we think of as "good" as it pertains to most people. A person can be good but not "righteous".

Nothing like a Ethics, Philosophy, Religious debate on SPS to start a Wednesday morning.
 

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All you have to do is read a couple of posts from that Krassenstein dude to write him off as nothing but an attention seeking, low IQ hack
And yet he was right on this one. There was nothing new in this release. A few unredacted sentences here and there, but nothing that changes what we've known for 60 years - Oswald acted alone and murdered JFK.
 
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It's pretty incredible to me how much of a team sport today's left makes politics. I guess the fanatics on both sides have always done this, but there is a large cohort of immovables on the left who are ruled by emotion, and the only emotion that matters is hatred of Trump and all associated with his agenda.
If you think "the left" is the side primarily doing this, you have a blindspot when it comes to political analysis. I've never seen a bigger cult in my life than Trump supporters in 2025. No criticism, no matter how slight or legitimate, can ever be tolerated.
 
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JFK’s policies would be considered center-right nowadays
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And yet he was right on this one. There was nothing new in this release. A few unredacted sentences here and there, but nothing that changes what we've known for 60 years - Oswald acted alone and murdered JFK.
Krassenstein was saying that Trump did nothing that Biden didn't do before, yet admitted that the few remaining minor redactions present in the previous release are no longer there in the Trump release. That contradicts his original point of Trump doing nothing that Biden didn't already do before.

There are no more redactions left in the official documents, which is a big deal now. It doesn't reveal anything groundbreaking, but it does bring the whole notion that the federal government is hiding things about the Kennedy assassination to a close. If there was anything groundbreaking that the government had, forces within the government would have destroyed it long ago and there would be nothing that any administration could do about it.
 
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If you think "the left" is the side primarily doing this, you have a blindspot when it comes to political analysis. I've never seen a bigger cult in my life than Trump supporters in 2025. No criticism, no matter how slight or legitimate, can ever be tolerated.
Open borders, men in women's sports and other transgender obsessions, racial discrimination disguised as DEI, absolutely brain dead candidates, attempted assassinations, the "new green scam" and on, and on, and on created the "cult" as you call it . You people, for some reason, can't seem to grasp how many Trump voters don't like Trump but voted for him as the perceived lesser of two evils. When your party decides to rejoin mainstream America things will change.
Hint : AOC and Jasmine ain't the answer
 

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Open borders, men in women's sports and other transgender obsessions, racial discrimination disguised as DEI, absolutely brain dead candidates, attempted assassinations, the "new green scam" and on, and on, and on created the "cult" as you call it . You people, for some reason, can't seem to grasp how many Trump voters don't like Trump but voted for him as the perceived lesser of two evils. When your party decides to rejoin mainstream America things will change.
Hint : AOC and Jasmine ain't the answer
Few Democrats support any of those things you listed. Talk to a liberal in real life and you'll see the Fox News caricatures aren't real.
 

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Krassenstein was saying that Trump did nothing that Biden didn't do before, yet admitted that the few remaining minor redactions present in the previous release are no longer there in the Trump release. That contradicts his original point of Trump doing nothing that Biden didn't already do before.

There are no more redactions left in the official documents, which is a big deal now. It doesn't reveal anything groundbreaking, but it does bring the whole notion that the federal government is hiding things about the Kennedy assassination to a close. If there was anything groundbreaking that the government had, forces within the government would have destroyed it long ago and there would be nothing that any administration could do about it.
There are redactions still in these files, but if you feel better about the government today than you did yesterday, cool.
 

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I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
I haven't seen anyone say this is going to lead anywhere meaningful. I have seen where Trump has been wanting to release these "unredacted" files (and Epstein, and UFO, and other documents) because he doesn't think the US Government should be hiding info from the people. So I guess this is one down, several more to go. We'll see if any others happen.
 
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And yet he was right on this one. There was nothing new in this release. A few unredacted sentences here and there, but nothing that changes what we've known for 60 years - Oswald acted alone and murdered JFK.

You're as bad as he is. You're both in such a rush to discredit the release that you're just making **** up. He released this very quickly after the release and fully admits he hasn't reviewed **** before declaring it the same as Biden's release.

Here's what Grok says (spoiler, this release is different and more, as promised, and all that was promised)...

 

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80,000 pages released.

That affair was instigated and initiated by Carlos Marcello and Santos Trafficante
80,000 pages released.

 

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You're as bad as he is. You're both in such a rush to discredit the release that you're just making **** up. He released this very quickly after the release and fully admits he hasn't reviewed **** before declaring it the same as Biden's release.

Here's what Grok says (spoiler, this release is different and more, as promised, and all that was promised)...


While I agree that the releases are different, if Grok is your end all be all of fact checking I have some hilarious results I would love to share.
 
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If you think "the left" is the side primarily doing this, you have a blindspot when it comes to political analysis. I've never seen a bigger cult in my life than Trump supporters in 2025. No criticism, no matter how slight or legitimate, can ever be tolerated.

There are Trump idiots for sure, because there are just idiots around everywhere.

But, I for one, never had much respect for him. I was pushed to him because he was the only one willing to fight the faction in Washington that is going to bankrupt the country financially and morally if we don't make drastic changes.

The cult is the left and if you're in it, I highly doubt you can see it.
 

She Mate Me

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While I agree that the releases are different, if Grok is your end all be all of fact checking I have some hilarious results I would love to share.

How does me using grok in this instance translate to it being my "end all be all"??

Short of me going through 80,000 of anything I'm really not that interested in, I'm going to have to let AI do some work.

The people I'm responding to have done way less work (any?) than grok and they're pretty sure of themselves.
 
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