I'm starting to read that PSU Consistently ranked in the top 10

Thorndike2021

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No! Stop it. 'Rankings' mean absolutely nothing until after the regular season.

Meanwhile:

Fire Franklin!

We're lucky to be allowed to have football at all.

WVU! WVU! WVU!
 

BobPSU92

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Us in July:




Us after PSU’s first play of the season on offense:

 

bdgan

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We now have a manageable goal of making the 12 team playoff
PSU better make it this year because Allar, Singleton, Allen, Warren, Fleming, Carter, Sutton, Harris, and Reed will probably all be gone in 2025. Players from that 6th ranked recruiting class will be replaced with players from classes ranked around 15.
 

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We will go 10-2 or 9-3 (probably 10-2) and be in the conversation for the playoff with I'd say a 50/50 chance at 10-2 of making the playoffs. We aren't going to beat tOSU and we likely drop one other one along the way. It will be another very good season.
 
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We will go 10-2 or 9-3 (probably 10-2) and be in the conversation for the playoff with I'd say a 50/50 chance at 10-2 of making the playoffs. We aren't going to beat tOSU and we likely drop one other one along the way. It will be another very good season.
Maybe we should play the games any way.
 

BiochemPSU

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Of course they should play the games. I thought we were speculating on the season?
No, no... not here. You can only speculate on here about why people would want anything better than 10-2 and then make fun of them when they give valid reasons.

Anyway, obviously going 12-0 or 11-1, you are in. At 9-3 you can plan on watching the playoffs from your couch. If it is 10-2, then that is going to be tricky because the drum beat is going to be that "we don't want mediocre teams to get a second shot at playing a team who already beat them." In the NCAA basketball tournament, they can mostly avoid that scenario in the first few rounds because there are 64 teams. With 12 teams, that is going to be harder so there is going to be manipulation "bracketology" style to set this up. If you are sitting at ranking 9 or below, you are probably pretty safe to get in even with that argument against you. But if you are 10/11/12 then you may get bumped by Cinderella, smaller schools that "deserve a chance," or teams that lost early in the season but now "pass the eye test" later in the season. If PSU wants to guarantee itself a tournament bid, one loss is about all you can really afford to absorb.

As for 10-2, I have concerns about the overall defense with a new coach and the depth and quality of the LBs. Offense of course is all on Allar and how much he improves with the new coach; also if we found a miracle worker to fix the WRs as Franklin will never be mistaken for his three yards and a cloud of dust offense.
Looking at the schedule:
Wins - Bowling Green, Kent State, Illinois, UCLA, Purdue, Minnesota, Maryland (7)
Losses - OSU (1)
Toss ups - WVU (first game, away, bad environment, new coordinators on both sides of the ball... just win and get out), USC (away and they recruit in the same league as us; that means it could be a coaching dual (yikes)), Wisc (away, could get caught looking to next week with OSU) (3)

Assuming we stay pretty healthy, 11-1 is possible, but so is 9-3. Should be interesting.
 

Karl_Havok

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No, no... not here. You can only speculate on here about why people would want anything better than 10-2 and then make fun of them when they give valid reasons.

Anyway, obviously going 12-0 or 11-1, you are in. At 9-3 you can plan on watching the playoffs from your couch. If it is 10-2, then that is going to be tricky because the drum beat is going to be that "we don't want mediocre teams to get a second shot at playing a team who already beat them." In the NCAA basketball tournament, they can mostly avoid that scenario in the first few rounds because there are 64 teams. With 12 teams, that is going to be harder so there is going to be manipulation "bracketology" style to set this up. If you are sitting at ranking 9 or below, you are probably pretty safe to get in even with that argument against you. But if you are 10/11/12 then you may get bumped by Cinderella, smaller schools that "deserve a chance," or teams that lost early in the season but now "pass the eye test" later in the season. If PSU wants to guarantee itself a tournament bid, one loss is about all you can really afford to absorb.

As for 10-2, I have concerns about the overall defense with a new coach and the depth and quality of the LBs. Offense of course is all on Allar and how much he improves with the new coach; also if we found a miracle worker to fix the WRs as Franklin will never be mistaken for his three yards and a cloud of dust offense.
Looking at the schedule:
Wins - Bowling Green, Kent State, Illinois, UCLA, Purdue, Minnesota, Maryland (7)
Losses - OSU (1)
Toss ups - WVU (first game, away, bad environment, new coordinators on both sides of the ball... just win and get out), USC (away and they recruit in the same league as us; that means it could be a coaching dual (yikes)), Wisc (away, could get caught looking to next week with OSU) (3)

Assuming we stay pretty healthy, 11-1 is possible, but so is 9-3. Should be interesting.

I think you nailed it and it’s exactly how I see it as well. Very well done.
 

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No, no... not here. You can only speculate on here about why people would want anything better than 10-2 and then make fun of them when they give valid reasons.

Anyway, obviously going 12-0 or 11-1, you are in. At 9-3 you can plan on watching the playoffs from your couch. If it is 10-2, then that is going to be tricky because the drum beat is going to be that "we don't want mediocre teams to get a second shot at playing a team who already beat them." In the NCAA basketball tournament, they can mostly avoid that scenario in the first few rounds because there are 64 teams. With 12 teams, that is going to be harder so there is going to be manipulation "bracketology" style to set this up. If you are sitting at ranking 9 or below, you are probably pretty safe to get in even with that argument against you. But if you are 10/11/12 then you may get bumped by Cinderella, smaller schools that "deserve a chance," or teams that lost early in the season but now "pass the eye test" later in the season. If PSU wants to guarantee itself a tournament bid, one loss is about all you can really afford to absorb.

As for 10-2, I have concerns about the overall defense with a new coach and the depth and quality of the LBs. Offense of course is all on Allar and how much he improves with the new coach; also if we found a miracle worker to fix the WRs as Franklin will never be mistaken for his three yards and a cloud of dust offense.
Looking at the schedule:
Wins - Bowling Green, Kent State, Illinois, UCLA, Purdue, Minnesota, Maryland (7)
Losses - OSU (1)
Toss ups - WVU (first game, away, bad environment, new coordinators on both sides of the ball... just win and get out), USC (away and they recruit in the same league as us; that means it could be a coaching dual (yikes)), Wisc (away, could get caught looking to next week with OSU) (3)

Assuming we stay pretty healthy, 11-1 is possible, but so is 9-3. Should be interesting.

Well said; and really, unless you win the conference, the number of playoff spots available is tight - you're basically competing for one of seven spots. Last year, all teams that were 10-2 or better would have been in, with Penn State, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, and Missouri all getting spots. Would have looked like:

1. Michigan (B1G Champ)
2. Washington (Pac 12 Champ)
3. Texas (Big XII Champ)
4. Alabama (SEC Champ)
5. Florida State (ACC Champ)
6. Georgia
7. Ohio State
8. Oregon
9. Missouri
10. Penn State
11. Ole Miss
12. Oklahoma

LSU at 9-3 would have been first team out. I think the scrutiny (and lobbying) for spots 9-12 is going to be way, way more intense than what we saw between the 4 & 5 ranked teams previously. Buckle up
 
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