Interesting quote from Satterfield

[18IsTheMan]

"I think we've given it everything we've got. We've shown games where we can be productive and there's games where we haven't. We're still in the early stages (offensively), Spencer's 1st year. We're still molding into what we want to look like as an offense."

Thoughts:
1. If what we've seen is "everything we've got" that's pretty depressing.
2. Outside of our cupcake games, what games have shown we can be productive?
3. He says "Spencer's 1st year" and he talks about it like this is a developing process with Spencer, as if they expect him back next season.
4. I'm sorry, but after 21 games, you should not still be in the molding process of what you want to look like.

 

[cockyferg]

Agreed with everything. Even the games we've won, it was because of like 2 or three 3 good plays, which were mostly individual efforts. I watched two drives against Mizzou in which we lost negative 30 yards. Multiple passes behind the line of scrimmage for losses. This offense SUCKS, not just in terms of production, but the basic fundamental design of our plays. I can't count the number of times I've seen an offensive lineman line up directly in front of a defensive lineman and let him literally run straight past him without being touched. SO. Many. TIMES! We jumped out to a 17 point lead against A&M in the first quarter and literally scored fewer than 14 more points the rest of the game. We should have scored 45 points. It is so hard to be a fan with this offense.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Agreed with everything. Even the games we've won, it was because of like 2 or three 3 good plays, which were mostly individual efforts. I watched two drives against Mizzou in which we lost negative 30 yards. Multiple passes behind the line of scrimmage for losses. This offense SUCKS, not just in terms of production, but the basic fundamental design of our plays. I can't count the number of times I've seen an offensive lineman line up directly in front of a defensive lineman and let him literally run straight past him without being touched. SO. Many. TIMES! We jumped out to a 17 point lead against A&M in the first quarter and literally scored fewer than 14 more points the rest of the game. We should have scored 45 points. It is so hard to be a fan with this offense.

And, not to mention, in the A&M game, the offense only scored 10 of those 17 early points. 3 of those came after the D spotted us the ball at A&M's 5 yard line and we gained a total of 0 yards. The other 7 scored by the offense came after the D spotted us the ball around the A&M 20. We didn't have an honest-to-goodness offensive drive until midway through the 3rd quarter.

The thing I find most intriguing, though, is the hint that Rattler may be back next year.

 

[The Reel Ess]

And, not to mention, in the A&M game, the offense only scored 10 of those 17 early points. 3 of those came after the D spotted us the ball at A&M's 5 yard line and we gained a total of 0 yards. The other 7 scored by the offense came after the D spotted us the ball around the A&M 20. We didn't have an honest-to-goodness offensive drive until midway through the 3rd quarter.

The thing I find most intriguing, though, is the hint that Rattler may be back next year.

Well, it's hard to imagine he'd get drafted. Double edged sword. We could have him for another year, but only if he didn't play well.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Well, it's hard to imagine he'd get drafted. Double edged sword. We could have him for another year, but only if he didn't play well.

And if he's back, I'm sure Doty transfers.

 

[Lurker123]

Well, it's hard to imagine he'd get drafted. Double edged sword. We could have him for another year, but only if he didn't play well.

Agreed. I assumed he wanted some good stats to launch him into the NFL. His stats now don't do that. Heck, his stats now make me question if he should be starting.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Agreed. I assumed he wanted some good stats to launch him into the NFL. His stats now don't do that. Heck, his stats now make me question if he should be starting.

I think the least exciting proposition for next year is another dose of Satterfield+Rattler. I might be interested to see what Rattler could do with a new OC who ran a system tailored to his skill set. Though I'm not high on Satterfield, if he is to come back, we already know what Rattler looks like in this system, so might as well see Doty or someone else. To have Satterfield and Rattler back for next year....underwhelming.

 

[Gamecock Disciple]

I have been saying that Satt does not appear to have a flow of the game ... then I read his comment, "You try to have a feel for how the game is gonna go". He has no clue DURING the game or DURING a series ... I am not a Brett Favre fan but I remember one game, when he was with the Vikings, they were moving the ball and has a few strong plays and quickly down to the goal line .. he is sprinting down and looking at the sideline and motioning to go NOW ... the coaches bring in a jumbo package, Favre is visibly upset, they hand off between the A gaps, and of course, lose yardage ... the next time that happened in that game, the coaches left the unit in and went with the flow and they scored immediately ... understanding the flow and dictating tempo is key ... absolutely and Satt does not get it ... I have said this for weeks and am convinced he goes off a chart all game long ... how in the world could you NOT use Bell (and I have been saying this all year long) ... CSB is in a precarious position. You want your coaches to be loyal to you and you must be loyal to your coaches, thus, his coach speak a lot. Besides, what assistant would want to come here if CSB throws coaches under the bus (Spurrier could do that due to his track record - not recommended, but he could do that). But when it gets to this point where one day we are hearing he was not in because of packages, well goodness, a good coach involves these playmakers in the majority of packages ... this is ridiculous ... if I am an offensive recruit and I am seeing this, do I want to come and play for USC with this? Talking about how great you are, how we need you, and how we will use you and then this?!?!?! People are not stupid ... I understand CSB not firing the OC during the season .. I get that, but he is very close to losing the fan base with empty words ... we know the buck stops with you ... we understand there are different packages, but get the BEST players in their the majority of the time ... could you imagine a coach not using Lattimore, Jeffrey, Shaw, Ellington, Ingram, Clowney, Gilmore, etc. We have seen enough ... and please do NOT hand the ball off to Bell on a jet sweep and feel like you are now including him ... get that man downfield in mismatches ... forget these overused plays on the perimeters and quick hitters ... ATTACK DOWN FIELD!

OK, I feel better ... I bleed Gamecock colors ... you understand!

 

[Guy in the Back]

One of the problems is that we do attack down the field. We have very few quick hit, underneath routes. Wells and Bell are good with the ball in their hands. We should be getting it out quickly to them in space.

We had a little bit of success with the screen game. However, we went to the well one too many times without altering how it would be blocked. Also never run any complimentary plays once they started jumping the screen.

 

[KingWard]

One of the problems is that we do attack down the field. We have very few quick hit, underneath routes. Wells and Bell are good with the ball in their hands. We should be getting it out quickly to them in space.

We had a little bit of success with the screen game. However, we went to the well one too many times without altering how it would be blocked. Also never run any complimentary plays once they started jumping the screen.

Another problem is that our quick passes to the flat, so instrumental in modern offenses, aren't set up well, the blockers can't get leverage and the plays are snuffed also immediately. They seldom go for appreciable yardage. Lots of them go for negative yardage. Of all the teams I've seen run these plays this year, only Lancaster High School is worse.

 

[Prestonyte]

I have been saying that Satt does not appear to have a flow of the game ... then I read his comment, "You try to have a feel for how the game is gonna go". He has no clue DURING the game or DURING a series ... I am not a Brett Favre fan but I remember one game, when he was with the Vikings, they were moving the ball and has a few strong plays and quickly down to the goal line .. he is sprinting down and looking at the sideline and motioning to go NOW ... the coaches bring in a jumbo package, Favre is visibly upset, they hand off between the A gaps, and of course, lose yardage ... the next time that happened in that game, the coaches left the unit in and went with the flow and they scored immediately ... understanding the flow and dictating tempo is key ... absolutely and Satt does not get it ... I have said this for weeks and am convinced he goes off a chart all game long ... how in the world could you NOT use Bell (and I have been saying this all year long) ... CSB is in a precarious position. You want your coaches to be loyal to you and you must be loyal to your coaches, thus, his coach speak a lot. Besides, what assistant would want to come here if CSB throws coaches under the bus (Spurrier could do that due to his track record - not recommended, but he could do that). But when it gets to this point where one day we are hearing he was not in because of packages, well goodness, a good coach involves these playmakers in the majority of packages ... this is ridiculous ... if I am an offensive recruit and I am seeing this, do I want to come and play for USC with this? Talking about how great you are, how we need you, and how we will use you and then this?!?!?! People are not stupid ... I understand CSB not firing the OC during the season .. I get that, but he is very close to losing the fan base with empty words ... we know the buck stops with you ... we understand there are different packages, but get the BEST players in their the majority of the time ... could you imagine a coach not using Lattimore, Jeffrey, Shaw, Ellington, Ingram, Clowney, Gilmore, etc. We have seen enough ... and please do NOT hand the ball off to Bell on a jet sweep and feel like you are now including him ... get that man downfield in mismatches ... forget these overused plays on the perimeters and quick hitters ... ATTACK DOWN FIELD!

OK, I feel better ... I bleed Gamecock colors ... you understand!

As I said in another thread, Satt is poison and is infecting the entire team and fanbase and if not addressed quickly CSB is risking losing what he has gained in the last 1 and a half seasons. Loyalty can be your friend or your enemy and make you smart or stupid - it's your choice.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Another problem is that our quick passes to the flat, so instrumental in modern offenses, aren't set up well, the blockers can't get leverage and the plays are snuffed also immediately. They seldom go for appreciable yardage. Lots of them go for negative yardage. Of all the teams I've seen run these plays this year, only Lancaster High School is worse.

All about execution.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

All about execution.

Satt is a loser. I’d say it to his face.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Satt needs Jason Brown....and a bye week every other week.

 

[GamecockMike]

Maybe we need to do something like they do in the shrine bowl or other types of “all star games” on offense. That’s about as simple as it’s going to get I suppose.

 

[Forkcock]

Imagine getting Satt and Rattler back for one more season.

 

[Guy in the Back]

All about execution.

Agree that sometimes it is about execution. There were times we absolutely whiffed on blocks.

But there were also times where it was defended to the point a different set or a different blocking scheme would help. Also when it was jumped a couple of times, I expected to see the same set with a go route. Set it up and run it as a screen. One receiver chips his block and keeps going. You more than likely end up in one one one with the safety (or best case him running free). Never saw anything like it. That is one the OC.

 

[18IsTheMan]

All about execution.

Yep, spot on. A crappy play executed to perfection will yield the results we've seen.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Yep, spot on. A crappy play executed to perfection will yield the results we've seen.

Poor execution of any play will too, and that mostly what we have seen. Oline doesn't block. Receivers don't block. I haven't seen a whole lot of this "executed to perfection" that you speak of.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I haven't seen a whole lot

Agreed.

 

[Gamecock Disciple]

One of the problems is that we do attack down the field. We have very few quick hit, underneath routes. Wells and Bell are good with the ball in their hands. We should be getting it out quickly to them in space.

We had a little bit of success with the screen game. However, we went to the well one too many times without altering how it would be blocked. Also never run any complimentary plays once they started jumping the screen.

GITB,

When I note down field, I mean the middle of the field ... I rarely see that ... it reminds me of the days of Lou Holtz ... I want the defense to have to defend the ENTIRE field, not just the sidelines or perimeter ... humble thoughts and thank you for responding ...

 

[Guy in the Back]

GITB,

When I note down field, I mean the middle of the field ... I rarely see that ... it reminds me of the days of Lou Holtz ... I want the defense to have to defend the ENTIRE field, not just the sidelines or perimeter ... humble thoughts and thank you for responding ...

I’m with you. I’d like to see some faster developing plays that allow Rattler to make the read pre-snap. Why we never check down to an underneath route when the LBs clear space on a blitz I can’t fathom. Even at the HS level we taught our kids to see that and sit in the void that was left from the blitzer.

I do believe Rattler is better than he has played. I believe his feel for the pocket is lacking, and we don’t do a lot to help him feel comfortable scheme wise.

 

[Gamecock Disciple]

I’m with you. I’d like to see some faster developing plays that allow Rattler to make the read pre-snap. Why we never check down to an underneath route when the LBs clear space on a blitz I can’t fathom. Even at the HS level we taught our kids to see that and sit in the void that was left from the blitzer.

I do believe Rattler is better than he has played. I believe his feel for the pocket is lacking, and we don’t do a lot to help him feel comfortable scheme wise.

Agreed ... I think back to the very first play of the season ... against Ga. State ... if I recall correctly, it was a crossing route (across the middle) to a receiver and it gained about 15-20 yards ... the next play was tempo run ... I was thrilled ... we rarely run these routes and I agree with you 100%, we do not take advantage of spacing and throw it where they ain't (the open space due to the blitzing LB as you noted is just one example) ...

 

[BigJC]

And if he's back, I'm sure Doty transfers.

Rattler returning could be the worst thing that could possibly happen. Rattler isn't in his "first year", he is in his third year as a college qb. If Rattler returns and Doty leaves, our depth at qb evaporates.

 

[KingWard]

"Execution" is an integral part of what coaches are supposed to impart - and to insist upon.