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Translation: "Football drives the bus, so shut and sit down."
I've been telling yall this for years.
If you want to make this thing a business and pay players from the schools, then boosters will have to fund non-revenue sports, or they will be cut.
It's not a good idea. Everyone who understands is screaming this, but no one is listening.
If you want to make this thing a business and pay players from the schools, then boosters will have to fund non-revenue sports, or they will be cut.
It's not a good idea. Everyone who understands is screaming this, but no one is listening.
laying the groundwork for eliminating football scholarships and ultimately no revenue sports and still be in compliance with title 9
How much additional revenue is our institution bringing in from football and basketball?
Does it cover the deficit in our other sports?
Does it cover the deficit in our other sports?
It's almost as though monetizing every aspect within a university - academics or athletics - leads to diminished outcomes for the overwhelming majority of stakeholders.
Byrne was literally speaking to a congressional committee when he said this. They are listening. There is bipartisan support to create legislation to fix this NIL mess.
Wrong. They aren't listening. He is saying it's a bad idea to pay players from the football revenue. It is Saban that is saying that he thinks they should, because HE PERSONALLY didn't like dealing with paying the players and the collectives in general. He's just giving it lip service. Byrne needs to tell Saban to STFU and quit being a hypocrite. Saban is really acting like he didn't know players have been paid for 50 years through boosters. It's part of the game.
They want them to fix NIL. Not make players employees or give them a piece of the revenue, but this is what's going to happen if they allow the government to fix things. In my opinion, they need to just quit bltching, accept things, and find ways to innovate.
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Atlas is shrugging.
Football and basketball are part of the SEC network revenue sharing. Baseball isn’t part of that agreement and therefore will continue to be a non revenue sport. Again. Invest less in baseball.
One thing they do teach you in McCool is opportunity cost. I guess some missed that lesson.
^ This.
Making football a business and letting everyone else fin for themselves... is where its headed and what Bryne is trying to say.
I dont know or care if they are listening.. but thats the read b/t the lines message.
I’m not sure what even Congress can do to fix it. The courts are just going to overrule it. One huge flaw in the US Constitution is there is no effective check or balance on the judicial branch.
how many men basketball and baseball scholarships are there - 25 together? women’s volleyball may be on the chopping block. we blow up the entire student athletics model over the 10% that had very little interest in attending college. once again the minority screw up everything for the majority
translation - we have to dump more of the private bank slush funds into football to compete, so other teams will have to wear last years dirty jerseys
Right if you pull football.
Basically to get back into compliance. Youd have to add something like Soccer and/or Cross Country for the men. Or Eliminate a sport like Rowing for the women, and reduce to amount of cholarships womens sports recieve. I mean currently the womens cross country team gets 18 full scholarships, and the rowing team gets 20.
It wont be that hard to get into compliance. But it will take either add a male sport or two, or all female athletes wont be on free rides anymore
BINGO
But on the plus side, how funny will it be to see the look on the faces of all those baseball, soccer, volleyball, softball (or whatever sports are cut) travel parents who dumped money for years into little Johnny's/Suzie's club teams.
Want it fixed. Close the portal.
Once the portal happened, college athletics changed. Now its a rat race.
NIL isnt the problem. The portal is.
Once the portal happened, college athletics changed. Now its a rat race.
NIL isnt the problem. The portal is.
And I'll just add that the courts don't have any responsibility to tell you how to navigate through the results of their decisions. They're just going to make a decision and then let you figure out the rest
Especially when people start to realize that this doesn't just affect a kid's ability to play sports in college. It affects their ability to go to college in a lot of cases
Is the tv/sec revenue broken out by sport when the check comes or is it all lumped together?
Yes there is - draft laws that don't violate Constitutional rights.
I agree with you. That said, it's not like a scholly is a lock today, especially in baseball. This calculus should absolutely already be factored in. If you're putting your kid's entire college fund (and likely, much more) into travel baseball, that's probably a poor decision.
Congress cannot fix it. At this point I’m confident the Supreme Court will rule any law as unconstitutional that serves to limit how much athletes can make or what school they can attend.
Our lawmakers might be corrupt to their core but they’re not stupid. They’ve watched the NCAA asskicking being handed down in court time and again. If they could figure out a way to put a halt to it and make a profit for themselves… they would have already done it.
NO! State could spend every nickel from Academics, Research & Development and ALL non-revenue budgets and still would be a 7-5 to 8-4 average Football program and a middle of the pack Basketball program.
And that is why I absolutely laugh at the people that do it.
I'm convinced most of our fans will never, ever understand this.
All female athletes are definitely not on free rides, at least not full scholarships if that's what you meant.
Yes i realize. was a figure of speech. Minus football though, sports for sport, womens sports do get more scholarships. Therefore, if football were to leave, either those scholarships would have to even out back in favor of the men.
Examples:
Womens track and cross country both gets 18, mens 12.6
Womens basektball gets 15, mens 13
Womens swim 14, mens 10
Womens golf 6, men 4
All that would have to shift back to equal. Meaning mens sports would get more scholarships or women less. Currently there isnt a single sport outside of football where a male sport gets more scholarships than a female... and there are more scholarship female sports than males offered as well.
For example at MSU alone: Minus football
There are 5 male sports offered: They get 46. 3 scholarships
There are 8 female sports offered: They get 103 scholarships
There would be a need for a huge shift to be in compliance
It's going to be women getting less (unless they find some way to link Title 9 to the scholarship free-less football separate entity somehow). UNLESS.....the men's sports are less profitable than the women's, then they'll just 17 over the men.
Sports will get cut, because I'll tell you how this plays out. Boosters aren't going to move their NIL donations to the non-revenue sports. They are going to keep buying football and basketball players, along with the TV money.
We aren't just going to freely subsidize this stuff, that's what I've been trying to tell everyone. It's not going to be like you think. And even if we did subsidize, most schools won't, so you won't have anyone to play.
I agree it's the only way it can go and it's terrible. There are a lot of students out there majoring in sports management, kinesiology, etc who planned on coaching in college whose degrees would be wasted at that point. Football wouldn't survive any of this either I don't believe, who would care anymore?
The people driving the train of "pay the players" didn't go to business school and it shows.
Once football escapes Title IX, it's game over for the current model and women's sports are going to suffer.
Law of unintended consequences and whatnot.
Once football escapes Title IX, it's game over for the current model and women's sports are going to suffer.
Law of unintended consequences and whatnot.
We should also tell everyone post graduation they can’t ever change jobs, or maybe allow them to change only once
That user name gives you away. And guess what we can and have proven we can win in football and we are about to go to the NCAAT second year in a row. You are part of the problem not believing or not seeing we can and will win in football. You loungers and DNFers can’t come to grips that your sport doesn’t do anything for us .
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