Noticed that the majority of Georgia's starters are from the state of GA. They've faired pretty well over the last few years focusing on instate talent. If Mullen can do the same in Miss., hopefully we will see similar results. I've noticed over the past few months that some OM posters seem to think that recruiting only instate talent isn't enough. I guess we'll see.
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High schools in the state of Georgia have produced 306 NFL draft picks since 1988.
High schools in the state of Mississippi have produced 137 NFL draft picks in the same period.
So I think it's safe to say that Georgia as a state produces more than twice as much talent as Mississippi on a yearly basis. Not to mention the fact that UGA is the clear cut program of choice for in-state talent in Georgia. Georgia Tech, as a private school, can't recruit a lot of the talent in Georgia, and UGA's biggest competition probably comes from an out of state school, Auburn, for most of its in-state talent.
The situations are in no way comparable. Out of all the SEC states, Georgia produces the second most amount of talent, next to Florida obviously.
You can and should recruit solely in-state at Georgia because it's the easiest and best route. At MSU or Ole Miss, you not only have a rival that recruits on the same level as you in the state, fighting for that smaller in-state talent pool, but you have another school, LSU, that basically has a monopoly on half of the state, south Mississippi. Not to mention Auburn, UT, and Alabama coming across state lines and being able to take top talent from the state. Very few schools come into Georgia and take prospects UGA really wants.
And before you say it, no team in Mississippi will ever have that kind of monopoly on in-state talent for an extended period the way UGA does, and even if they did, they'd still be dealing with less than half the talent that Georgia can draw from in-state. If you do follow UGA's formula, and you do manage to dominate in-state recruiting the way they do, you'll still not be as talented as they are.
High schools in the state of Mississippi have produced 137 NFL draft picks in the same period.
So I think it's safe to say that Georgia as a state produces more than twice as much talent as Mississippi on a yearly basis. Not to mention the fact that UGA is the clear cut program of choice for in-state talent in Georgia. Georgia Tech, as a private school, can't recruit a lot of the talent in Georgia, and UGA's biggest competition probably comes from an out of state school, Auburn, for most of its in-state talent.
The situations are in no way comparable. Out of all the SEC states, Georgia produces the second most amount of talent, next to Florida obviously.
You can and should recruit solely in-state at Georgia because it's the easiest and best route. At MSU or Ole Miss, you not only have a rival that recruits on the same level as you in the state, fighting for that smaller in-state talent pool, but you have another school, LSU, that basically has a monopoly on half of the state, south Mississippi. Not to mention Auburn, UT, and Alabama coming across state lines and being able to take top talent from the state. Very few schools come into Georgia and take prospects UGA really wants.
And before you say it, no team in Mississippi will ever have that kind of monopoly on in-state talent for an extended period the way UGA does, and even if they did, they'd still be dealing with less than half the talent that Georgia can draw from in-state. If you do follow UGA's formula, and you do manage to dominate in-state recruiting the way they do, you'll still not be as talented as they are.
So Georgia Tech can recruit the same type athletes as Georgia.
That's why they're, ya know, a BCS-caliber team...
That's why they're, ya know, a BCS-caliber team...
lots of high school games while growing up in Mississippi and then seeing both little brothers play for Georgia schools, I feel safe in saying that Mississippi produces a higher ratio of talented players, but in general the systems they play in aren't as complex, and the largest Georgia schools are simply loaded.
Pre-posting edit: Given that Georgia has more than 3 times the population of Mississippi, and the NFL stats listed above show only a ratio of 2.23 in favor of Georgia, I'd say my view is validated.
Pre-posting edit: Given that Georgia has more than 3 times the population of Mississippi, and the NFL stats listed above show only a ratio of 2.23 in favor of Georgia, I'd say my view is validated.
You also have to factor in Mississippi's population of around 3 million to Georgia's 10 million, so you're statistics are not that impressive.
It is a public institution with the same fees as UGA.
Both schools are challenging to get into (due to the Hope Scholarship, from the State Lotto funds). UGA has much more football tradition, plays in the SEC, and has a stadium that holds 92,000. All of UGA games are sold out and you have to contribute nearly $10K to get season tickets.
Tech has more of a basketball tradition, has a smaller stadium that rarely sells out.
Tech has a larger endowment than UGA.
Your typical Georgia high school kid wants to go to UGA.
Tech is getting some interest due to Johnson.
A lot of neighboring schools try to recruit the state of Georgia (Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn, etc.).
For the most part, UGA gets to hand-pick from 75% to 80% of the high school football kids in the state of Georgia.
Both schools are challenging to get into (due to the Hope Scholarship, from the State Lotto funds). UGA has much more football tradition, plays in the SEC, and has a stadium that holds 92,000. All of UGA games are sold out and you have to contribute nearly $10K to get season tickets.
Tech has more of a basketball tradition, has a smaller stadium that rarely sells out.
Tech has a larger endowment than UGA.
Your typical Georgia high school kid wants to go to UGA.
Tech is getting some interest due to Johnson.
A lot of neighboring schools try to recruit the state of Georgia (Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn, etc.).
For the most part, UGA gets to hand-pick from 75% to 80% of the high school football kids in the state of Georgia.
UnderclassHero said:
Ratios are fun, but they really don't mean that much considering everyone gets to sign 25 players a year. If Georgia was handicapped due to its population and only allowed to sign 15 players, you'd have a point.
Per capita, Mississippi is one of the best states in the country as far as talent goes, but per capita isn't factored in in recruiting or on the scoreboard. We're all graded on the same scale regardless of population.
Georgia, plain and simple, is a much better state to recruit than Mississippi.
QuaoarsKing said:
You are correct. I, for some reason, was assuming GT was private. My mistake.
However, my point still stands that UGA is by far the dominant program for recruiting in the state of Georgia. If you've ever been to Georgia, Georgia Tech is almost an after thought compared to UGA. The state is made up of a whole lot more UGA fans than GT fans. UGA has more than double the enrollment of Georgia Tech, and it has a higher in-state percentage for the student body. That leads to more than 2/3 of the state's graduates being UGA fans as opposed to GT fans. Not to mention, UGA is the program of choice for most sidewalk fans in Georgia.
Georgia is the program of choice in the state, and while they don't have a monopoly on recruiting in the state, they have a much bigger advantage than any team in Mississippi will ever have in this state.
AtlantaBulldog said:
All that is true, and I made an incorrect assumption. You are right though that they still get to hand pick the majority of the talent in-state, something that no school in Mississippi gets to do. Throw in that the state produces more than double the talent that Mississippi produces, and the situations aren't comparable.
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