Is anybody else completely tired of being associated with a loser university?
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Lol, no basketball is an afterthought there and they will not be willing to overpay to keep him at a garbage basketball school when a real basketball school comes calling, speaking of clueless
I thought winning an NC was the panacea for all our fair weather fans. Evidently not. I personally didn't care if we ever won an NC. They are fleeting and after a few years are basically meaningless. It is the journey not the destination for me. It is easy to be a bandwagon fan. I know several that every other year are fans of different teams (funny because that is how NIL works now). No matter how terrible the environment gets for college sports I will remain a State Dawg until I die. All is not lost as a fan. Our softball, soccer, golf and men's tennis teams are still relevant. Women's basketball won their first game. Any scUM that comes here to attempt recruitment just demonstrates how low they go. I don't follow them so whether they succeed or fail is as important to me as fly crap on a blade of grass.
I get treated really well when I attend away State games. Mainly because the team we are playing feels sorry for us.
Reading this thread, multiple things can be true.
Alumni who donate significantly to the university may feel justified in voicing their opinions — Lord knows MSU isn’t exclusive in that category.
“Winning” and “losing” are subjective if talking about things other than team performances. To that end, if MSU “won” more, I watch more as a fan. I could say the same of the New Orleans Saints.
Regarding the University itself, a word that has been used in this thread is “stale.” Typically in higher education this is the next stage after “stability.” Perhaps it is time for change, perhaps not. Depends on how far one thinks MSU can truly ascend.
Depending on multiple demographic factors, you may be on one side of the fence or the other. The truth is that MSU has punched far above its weight — especially considering that it is in a highly undesirable location for most people’s tastes and in a state that is largely an afterthought on the national scene (except when something bad happens).
This is an accomplishment as MSU has done a lot with very few competitive advantages. Unfortunately, the times….well…they are “a changin’”….and it may be time for MSU to change or “lose”
Aloha
Alumni who donate significantly to the university may feel justified in voicing their opinions — Lord knows MSU isn’t exclusive in that category.
“Winning” and “losing” are subjective if talking about things other than team performances. To that end, if MSU “won” more, I watch more as a fan. I could say the same of the New Orleans Saints.
Regarding the University itself, a word that has been used in this thread is “stale.” Typically in higher education this is the next stage after “stability.” Perhaps it is time for change, perhaps not. Depends on how far one thinks MSU can truly ascend.
Depending on multiple demographic factors, you may be on one side of the fence or the other. The truth is that MSU has punched far above its weight — especially considering that it is in a highly undesirable location for most people’s tastes and in a state that is largely an afterthought on the national scene (except when something bad happens).
This is an accomplishment as MSU has done a lot with very few competitive advantages. Unfortunately, the times….well…they are “a changin’”….and it may be time for MSU to change or “lose”
Aloha
If Ole Miss can make it advantageous to them then so can we. We just don't care as much. I don't blame our fans for not caring that much, but that is the truth.
Look, with sports it's all the mediocre hires we make that have zero experience as a HC and our fans are cheap as hell, while the biggest donations made are to academics.
As for academics, scholarship money has to improve and again, we've got to stop hiring inexperienced professors so much. Would also help if they speak solid English as well, so many the kids can't uneven understand. But to say the school is bad is just incorrect. I see the kids graduating in legitimate majors and they do well. And here's a little secret, kids that work hard will be successful anyway generally.
Starkville is improving pretty damn fast too. The massive change the last decade is still going on.
Now go back to your pity party and discouraging your kids from going to State while you moan and groan about everything.
As for academics, scholarship money has to improve and again, we've got to stop hiring inexperienced professors so much. Would also help if they speak solid English as well, so many the kids can't uneven understand. But to say the school is bad is just incorrect. I see the kids graduating in legitimate majors and they do well. And here's a little secret, kids that work hard will be successful anyway generally.
Starkville is improving pretty damn fast too. The massive change the last decade is still going on.
Now go back to your pity party and discouraging your kids from going to State while you moan and groan about everything.
First, I notice that you are a Rebel so I don’t feel like I owe you much of a response. With that being said, if you look at the size of the alumni base and accumulated wealth for schools like Texas, Texas atm, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, etc you will see that it is not a level playing field for anyone other than roughly 20 schools in the whole country. I know you Rebels like to go through life being extremely pretentious and want everyone to think that you are one of the elite, but you aren’t. We are both about the same size and both from the same State. We work for the same companies and our kids go to the same schools. You folks do seem to apply an enormous amount of importance to giving large sums of money to buying players so that you can brag about it at the next cocktail party. Only problem is that now days they are going to shake you down every year for more and more. It is no longer college football and no longer State and UM, it’s just a bunch of paid guys playing for the highest bidder. Most of them don’t give a flying flip about who they play for. The old saying, a fool and his money are soon parted applies here. If you guys want to keep throwIng money at this, more power to you. I am not going to do it. Got some extra cash? Give it to a ball player or give it to St. Jude, United Way, your Church, or some other worthwhile organization where you can actually make a difference? The answer is obvious.
And Ole miss is as competitive as they have ever been in their history in major sports. Thanks for making his point for him. The playing field is more level now for schools like us than ever before. Players are not sitting on the bench at Texas, A&M, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, etc. They are transferring to mid level schools like us and Ole Miss and they have taken advantage of the current system while living in our financial neighborhood while we have b*tched about not wanting to pay for players and cried in the corner.
We will never compete again. Too many people in our fanbase who think baseball is important. Take every dime and give it to Men's basketball. One Final Four appearance would be worth 100 CWS appearances. We could compete but we'd rather whistle past the graveyard.
When Ole Miss hires Arnett as permanent HC and lets him wholesale fire the previously successful head coach’s staff and install the wing T offense, let me know. Our wounds are self inflicted.
Yes, which means with competent leadership we can be good. The sky is falling because we don’t care and our leaders made bad decisions, not because the system is unfair.
Well they are already paying him $5 mil per year and he's likely about to get a raise up to $6 mil. They also pay his assistants a ton, which is why Beard currently has Mark Adams on his bench. They also, like us, had a $5 mil NIL budget for this year's roster and that number will likely go up this coming season. They have decided to invest in Basketball unlike any other time in their history.
With that said, eventually a blue blood will come calling and Beard will be gone.
