Is Jimbo another coach

18IsTheMan

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Unless the wheels totally come off this season, he's not getting fired. They'd have to lose out, and even then that may not be bad enough. A&M can certainly afford the buyout, but I doubt they'd pull the trigger yet. He will be on the hot seat next season though.

That said, it would not be shocking if he did get fired.

The Panthers just agreed to pay Matt Rhule $40 million to leave. Anything's possible.
 
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They just bought a real nice recruiting class, so I think enough people will give him past their freshman year.

But I think that next year could get ugly.
 

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Unless some rich oil baron who just happens to be an alumni, and needs a big tax write off, I will give you 89,950,000 reasons why he wont get replaced this year, and I will also spot you 76.800,000 reasons why he wont be gone next year either.

Below is Jimbo's buyout for every year until 2030. Even in 2030 the number is incredibly high.
  • 2022: $85,950,000
  • 2023: $76,800,000
  • 2024: $67,550,000
  • 2025: $58,200,000
  • 2026: $48,750,000
  • 2027: $39,200,000
  • 2028: $29,550,000
  • 2029: $19,800,000
  • 2030: $9,950,000
 

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Unless some rich oil baron who just happens to be an alumni, and needs a big tax write off, I will give you 89,950,000 reasons why he wont get replaced this year, and I will also spot you 76.800,000 reasons why he wont be gone next year either.

Below is Jimbo's buyout for every year until 2030. Even in 2030 the number is incredibly high.
  • 2022: $85,950,000
  • 2023: $76,800,000
  • 2024: $67,550,000
  • 2025: $58,200,000
  • 2026: $48,750,000
  • 2027: $39,200,000
  • 2028: $29,550,000
  • 2029: $19,800,000
  • 2030: $9,950,000
Exactly what I was thinking.
 

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Unless some rich oil baron who just happens to be an alumni, and needs a big tax write off, I will give you 89,950,000 reasons why he wont get replaced this year, and I will also spot you 76.800,000 reasons why he wont be gone next year either.

Below is Jimbo's buyout for every year until 2030. Even in 2030 the number is incredibly high.
  • 2022: $85,950,000
  • 2023: $76,800,000
  • 2024: $67,550,000
  • 2025: $58,200,000
  • 2026: $48,750,000
  • 2027: $39,200,000
  • 2028: $29,550,000
  • 2029: $19,800,000
  • 2030: $9,950,000
Would losing out and retiring a little early be the worst thing? $85,950,00 is a decent security blanket!
If I get fired all pay just stops. Next lifetime i’m going into coaching college football.
 

Harvard Gamecock

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Would losing out and retiring a little early be the worst thing? $85,950,00 is a decent security blanket!
If I get fired all pay just stops. Next lifetime i’m going into coaching college football.
Well retiring and getting fired are two completely different outcomes.
In Jimbo's case however, the financial outcomes may be opposite from what we consider normal.
If he retires, I really don't know if he's entitled to any financial packages, however if he get's fired then he's owed the payout.
 

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Would losing out and retiring a little early be the worst thing? $85,950,00 is a decent security blanket!
If I get fired all pay just stops. Next lifetime i’m going into coaching college football.
Football or basketball they both pay well for getting fired. Amazing how this works and the ridiculous situations schools put themselves in when setting up contracts with coaches - I would think a min win total per season would be written in and if you fail to deliver and are fired the buyout is null and void , much like the morals clause in most athletic contracts.
 

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Football or basketball they both pay well for getting fired. Amazing how this works and the ridiculous situations schools put themselves in when setting up contracts with coaches - I would think a min win total per season would be written in and if you fail to deliver and are fired the buyout is null and void , much like the morals clause in most athletic contracts.

Sounds good except no coach would ever agree to that contract.
 

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Jimbo is gonna be saved by his buyout, but it'll be very interesting if they lose to Auburn this weekend. Don't see them beating LSU to close the season, so they will likely finish 1-7 or 2-6 in conference play. If they go 1-7, I'm sure there will at least be talks.
 

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Jimbo is gonna be saved by his buyout, but it'll be very interesting if they lose to Auburn this weekend. Don't see them beating LSU to close the season, so they will likely finish 1-7 or 2-6 in conference play. If they go 1-7, I'm sure there will at least be talks.
Wouldn't be surprised if Auburn beats A&M. Cadillac lit a fire in that team this past weekend!
 

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Jimbo has handed A&M their first 5-game losing streak in 42 years.
 

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Jimbo has them in a bind. Better negotiator than coach.

I guess the question they have to be asking themselves is "Is Jimbo the guy to take us to the title?" Realistic or not, that's the expectation and you don't pay the kind of money they pay without expecting that to be a real possibility. In all likelihood, Jimbo comes back next year and A&M has a better record. I'm sure this year is an anomaly. However, even if he's better, they have to ask if he's shown anything up to this point that would indicate he can bring a title to College Station. If not, then why let the buyout stand in the way? If you really don't think he's the guy, why wait another year or 2 for things to stagnate, or potentially get worse? Another thing to factor in will be to wait and see if they have a mass exodus in the portal. There have been rumors that it could happen. If they finish 1-7 in conference AND lose a bunch of players, that could tip the scale.

Buyout aside, his salary could actually be the nail in the coffin. You don't pay $9 million/year to go 1-7 in conference play. $9 million a year is championship money, not even 10-2 will suffice for long.
 

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I guess the question they have to be asking themselves is "Is Jimbo the guy to take us to the title?"
What's his competition? Don't see how TAMU gets there with Saban, LSU, & Kiffen on their schedule.
How do you dig yourself out of a hole going up against that?
 

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What's his competition? Don't see how TAMU gets there with Saban, LSU, & Kiffen on their schedule.
How do you dig yourself out of a hole going up against that?

Beats me, but you don't pay $9 million/year, fully guaranteed, for 9 or 10 wins a season, at least not long-term.
 

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The enormous guaranteed buyouts offered to attract coaches can be a huge liability if things are going south. People keep saying, "Oh, they can
afford the buyout because of the oil money" or whatever. Even deep pocketed donors want a ROI on what they're funding. They aren't going to
keep throwing money endlessly. How does the Mich St admin and fans feel about Mel Tucker's contract now?

I can see where there will be some stipulations placed on mega-buyouts in the future. Put some performance measurements in to guard against
under performing coaches.

I still scratch my head wondering how A&M determined Jimbo was "that guy" after how his stint at FSU ended.
 

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Jimbo will get at least two more years, maybe three. Perhaps in that time frame this prodigious recruiting he's been doing will take hold. It's possible.
 
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With Texas joining the league, and by the time they join look to be pretty good, he would have to beat them every time to satisfy that fan base. And I don't think he can.
 
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Just lost a commit from 5* LB Anthony Hill. It'll be interesting to see if others follow suit or if current players hit the portal.
 

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Just lost a commit from 5* LB Anthony Hill. It'll be interesting to see if others follow suit or if current players hit the portal.
In this day and age, the expectation should be that at 5 players from any school will enter the transfer portal.
It is, what it is.
 

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In this day and age, the expectation should be that at 5 players from any school will enter the transfer portal.
It is, what it is.

Depends on who it is that transfers. If it's the 4th string QB, no biggie. If he loses a number of the top recruits from their historic class last year, that's a different story. After our game, there were rumors that there was a movement among some of the players to encourage transferring after this season. May have very well been nothing more than rumor. It's one thing to have a few transfers, it's another thing to have it happen en masse. That PROBABLY won't happen, but if they somehow lose to Auburn, the bottom could fall out there.

Right now they're behind us in the recruiting rankings.
 

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Jimbo is gonna be saved by his buyout, but it'll be very interesting if they lose to Auburn this weekend. Don't see them beating LSU to close the season, so they will likely finish 1-7 or 2-6 in conference play. If they go 1-7, I'm sure there will at least be talks.
Could you imagine the public relations backlash if a university dropped $90 million to fire a coach? Just take that kind of money out and set it on fire. Unreal.
 

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Could you imagine the public relations backlash if a university dropped $90 million to fire a coach? Just take that kind of money out and set it on fire. Unreal.

It'd have to be booster money. I seriously doubt he gets canned, but if they were to go 1-7 in conference play AND start losing top player to the portal AND lose recruits, I'm sure there will be discussions. He's probably brought back next season with an unwritten ultimatum, but it would not be at all shocking if the boosters coughed up the dough to get rid of him.
 
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It'd have to be booster money. I seriously doubt he gets canned, but if they were to go 1-7 in conference play AND start losing top player to the portal AND lose recruits, I'm sure there will be discussions. He's probably brought back next season with an unwritten ultimatum, but it would not be at all shocking if the boosters coughed up the dough to get rid of him.
Even if it's booster money there would be serious backlash, and deservedly so.
 
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Even if it's booster money there would be serious backlash, and deservedly so.

Yes, deservedly so. Iit was a stupid contract for them to offer/agree to, so they're gonna get backlash either way. Either they're stuck with an underperforming coach b/c of the stupid contrac.t Or they have to pay mega bucks to get rid of the underperforming coach b/c of the stupid contract.
 
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Unless some rich oil baron who just happens to be an alumni, and needs a big tax write off, I will give you 89,950,000 reasons why he wont get replaced this year, and I will also spot you 76.800,000 reasons why he wont be gone next year either.

Below is Jimbo's buyout for every year until 2030. Even in 2030 the number is incredibly high.
  • 2022: $85,950,000
  • 2023: $76,800,000
  • 2024: $67,550,000
  • 2025: $58,200,000
  • 2026: $48,750,000
  • 2027: $39,200,000
  • 2028: $29,550,000
  • 2029: $19,800,000
  • 2030: $9,950,000
Except he will only receive 25% of that initially. Then he will receive the balance in equal installments until 2031. That is still a lot of money to pay out, but that can easily be offset somewhat by contributions from several of their big money boosters (ie, rich oil barons - of which TAMU probably has many) and the money received from the SEC's 2023 media rights deal with ESPN.

If Texas A&M decides to fire Fisher without cause, the university owes him every penny remaining on the contract. Every last one. And Fisher can have it paid out to him from the date of his firing until 2031 when the contract would have expired.

An impressive 25% of that total would go to the coach within 60 days of dismissal. The rest, starting 120 days after that date, would be in annual installments through 2031.

For simplicity’s sake, let’s say Fisher is fired on Dec. 31 of this year. That means he will have $85,950,000 remaining on his contract. By February, he could expect to receive a lump sum of $21,487,500. Then, over the next nine years, an annual payment of $7,162,500, beginning sometime around July 2023.

I would expect that Jimbo gets at least one more year before things really get nasty.
 
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Still mind boggling. If he's let go early then what do they do? What a PR problem it would still be IMO.

I don't care how well you're funded it can only go on so long if your guy "ain't it" and you're asked for more for the next guy.

Oh well, like so many things it's TBD later.
 

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Like Jimbo or hate Jimbo…… If you’re a aTm fan you better learn to LOVE Jimbo because he isn’t going anywhere until at least 2030. Because there are Million$ upon million$ of rea$on$ why he isn’t going anywhere!




  • 2022: $85,950,000
  • 2023: $76,800,000
  • 2024: $67,550,000
  • 2025: $58,200,000
  • 2026: $48,750,000
  • 2027: $39,200,000
  • 2028: $29,550,000
  • 2029: $19,800,000
  • 2030: $9,950,000
 

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The AD has to be getting nervous. He's the one who agreed to that absurd contract for a coach no one was after and hasn't won anything.

The boosters might fork over the money to get rid of Jimbo but that money will probably come with the stipulation that the AD is fired.
 

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The AD has to be getting nervous. He's the one who agreed to that absurd contract for a coach no one was after and hasn't won anything.

The boosters might fork over the money to get rid of Jimbo but that money will probably come with the stipulation that the AD is fired.

If they lose to Auburn, look out.