I don’t think he’s there yet, but he’s heading in that direction.Hell yes. A better question is whether he’s top 5.
No..not even close.Hell yes. A better question is whether he’s top 5.
Marino came up small in big games.No..not even close.
Brady
Montana
Elway
Marino
Unitas
Manning
And that is just off of the top of my head.
No, he didn’t.Marino came up small in big games.
Absolutely.Is Patrick Mahomes in the top 15 of NFL QBs all-time?
48-14 ring a bell?No, he didn’t.
Much easier when QBs can barely be touched. Ten years ago they got hit on just about every single play.Mahomes lifetime rating is 105.7. (6 years) He is #1.
Previous leader is Aaron Rodgers with 104.9. (18 years)
In playoffs Mahomes is 107.4. He is #1.
Previous leader is Bart Starr with 104.8 (16 years)
MVPs Mahomes 2. (Tied for 4th among QBs)
Manning 5 is #1
Well on his way to #1, barring injury.
Yet guys like Montana and Elway still won- Marino is the very definition of overrated.Much easier when QBs can barely be touched. Ten years ago they got hit on just about every single play.
Bradshaw and staubach. To great big game qbs. 78-79still the greatest super bowl to be played by two great teams. 17-19. Hall of famers!No..not even close.
Brady
Montana
Elway
Marino
Unitas
Manning
And that is just off of the top of my head.
This is a great point. If you watch the super bowl 30 min clips from the past, I watched all of the steeler Super Bowls. You see the qbs getting crushed. I’m sitting their thinking, well today that is a flag and that is another etc.Much easier when QBs can barely be touched. Ten years ago they got hit on just about every single play.
18 playoff games on a team with no running game and no defense. He single handedly carried that team. Overall they shouldn’t even have been a playoff caliber team yet they made it consistently because of him. Does Mahomes make all the tackles as well? Winning a SB is not the sole responsibility of the QB.48-14 ring a bell?
How many Super Bowls did he win?
8-10 playoff record?
Mahomes already has a 9-3 playoff record.
That was college…he developed into a much better QB in the NFL. How many NC’s did Tom Brady win in college?48 - 14
Don’t play into. We all know Marino was a top 5 QB.That was college…he developed into a much better QB in the NFL. How many NC’s did Tom Brady win in college?
No, we don't.Don’t play into. We all know Marino was a top 5 QB.
Don’t let personal feelings make you sound foolish.No, we don't.
If you had to pick a Super Bowl QB from between Marino and Mahomes, I’d pick Mahomes. I’ll concede that Marino is statistically superior to Mahomes, so maybe we’re talking about two different things.Don’t let personal feelings make you sound foolish.
Depends on the team….I would take this year’s Chiefs over any Dolphins team Marino played on. Would you take a pitcher who got 20 wins with the Pirates or 20 wins with the Astros?If you had to pick a Super Bowl QB from between Marino and Mahomes, I’d pick Mahomes. I’ll concede that Marino is statistically superior to Mahomes, so maybe we’re talking about two different things.
Fair enough. I’d take 1972 Steve Carlton over just about any other pitcher’s season.Depends on the team….I would take this year’s Chiefs over any Dolphins team Marino played on. Would you take a pitcher who got 20 wins with the Pirates or 20 wins with the Astros?
Marino played real football. Mahomes is playing two hand touch.Depends on the team….I would take this year’s Chiefs over any Dolphins team Marino played on. Would you take a pitcher who got 20 wins with the Pirates or 20 wins with the Astros?
Marino came up small in big games.
It’s funny, the Brady haters use this argument all the time to downplay Brady’s accomplishments, but apparently it doesn’t apply to Mahomes.Marino played real football. Mahomes is playing two hand touch.
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lieCocaine.
NO!Is Patrick Mahomes in the top 15 of NFL QBs all-time?
Yes.Is Patrick Mahomes in the top 15 of NFL QBs all-time?
BradyDon’t let personal feelings make you sound foolish.
Not so. Mahomes passer rating, 105.7, Marino 86.4.If you had to pick a Super Bowl QB from between Marino and Mahomes, I’d pick Mahomes. I’ll concede that Marino is statistically superior to Mahomes, so maybe we’re talking about two different things.
Ignores the fact that athletes are superior now.Different game today. Now you have to ask if you can gently place the QB on the ground when attempting a sack.
No doubt about that.Ignores the fact that athletes are superior now.